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What Scientists Got Wrong About COVID-19

24 Mar 2025

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Early in the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, scientists predicted the SARS-CoV-2 virus would mutate slowly. They were wrong. Hundreds of thousands of viral mutations and multiple seasonal waves later, we now know why. The answer changes researchers' understanding of viral evolution — and it could help predict the evolution of other viruses in the future. Emily talks about it all with Sarah Zhang, a health writer for The Atlantic. Want to hear more virology or human biology stories? Let us know by emailing [email protected] more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.129 - 9.717 Jarl and Pamela Moan

Support for NPR and the following message come from Jarl and Pamela Moan, thanking the people who make public radio great every day and also those who listen.

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11.078 - 37.065 Emily Kwong

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, shortwavers, Emily Kwong here. So this month marks five years since officials at the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a pandemic. And we have come a long way since then. Researchers have figured out ways to slow the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus with masking and air filtering. They've developed safe treatments and vaccines.

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37.566 - 52.179 Emily Kwong

And they've tracked hundreds of thousands of different mutations. And now we know something else, how those mutations evolved. Because if you remember, in March of 2020, a lot of scientists predicted that the coronavirus was not going to evolve very much.

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52.64 - 59.325 Sarah Gonzalez

It was thought that the coronavirus mutated pretty slowly, like half as fast as the flu or only a quarter as fast as HIV.

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59.844 - 68.247 Emily Kwong

This is Sarah Zhang, a health writer for The Atlantic. Back in 2020, some scientists thought that once vaccines arrived, they would offer years of protection.

68.587 - 80.511 Sarah Gonzalez

Unfortunately, I think we know what actually happened, which is that in the winter of 2020, we sort of got like this first big variant, what was known as Alpha. And then we just kept getting more and more variants.

81.051 - 106.582 Emily Kwong

Beta, Delta, Omicron. The coronavirus continued to mutate. to make these evolutionary jumps that helped it survive. And for a long time, scientists didn't know why. Sarah wrote a piece about this for The Atlantic last month, focusing on a series of studies that point to a relatively new idea that the virus could be incubating and mutating further in one specific group of people.

107.022 - 123.767 Sarah Gonzalez

When the virus jumps from person to person, it gets about two mutations a month. But sometimes when the virus finds someone who maybe their immune system is a little bit suppressed, they aren't able to fight off the virus. Instead of, you know, being sick for like a week or two weeks, they might be sick for weeks or weeks on end or even months.

124.147 - 129.508 Emily Kwong

Meaning that in people who are immunocompromised, the virus may be able to stick around and evolve.

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