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200: Introducing Goal Crusher Club
09 Apr 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Before we dive into anything, can we just have a moment of silence for the phenomenal fact that this is episode 200! And guess what? We’re not going...
199: Quadrupling Your Email List and Selling Out a Group Program with Steph Crowder of Courage Clarity
06 Apr 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we welcome the email list queen, Steph Crowder. Steph is an educator and coach at Courage & Clarity, one of our Mastermind member...
198: January and February Monthly Reviews - We Learned Something MAJOR During These Months
04 Apr 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show, we are bringing you a two-in-one monthly review session. We know we are always telling you to check your data, but the truth is, we...
197: Cultivating Diversity and Creating Community for the Geek Chic with Jordan Ellis of Jordandene
02 Apr 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we welcome our good friend, Jordan Ellis of Jordandené. She is an amazing woman who has a geeky lifestyle brand based in Brookly...
196: Planning for Worst-Case Scenarios
30 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
For those of you who don’t already know Emylee – welcome to her anxious life. She is the type of person who can tell you where every exit in a bui...
195: Leaving a Legacy and Making an Impact with Kelly Roach of Kelly Roach Coaching
28 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we welcome Kelly Roach. Kelly is a national bestselling author, the host of the podcast Unstoppable Success Radio and the CEO of ...
194: They're More Successful Than Me Because - And Other Excuses We Tell Ourselves
26 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
“I don’t have enough time”, “I don’t know the right people”, “I don’t have enough money.” There are a lot of excuses we make for not...
193: Scaling a Service Based Business with Parker Stevenson of Evolved Finance
23 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have our work husband, Parker Stevenson. Parker is our bookkeeper, our CFO, business adviser, our friend, our friend-enemy and...
192: A Roundup of Stuff Were Digging Right Now In Life Business
21 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we are sharing all the things that we are digging right now. Things that we love, things that bring us happiness, things that make o...
191: How to Build a Business that Leaves a Legacy with Lauren Taylor of the Letter Mag
19 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we welcome Lauren Taylor. Lauren is the founder of The Letter; an annual mag that inspires women to live their best lives. She is al...
190: Our 15k Mistake And How You Can Avoid Making It Yourself
16 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show, we’ll be telling you a story about a $15k mistake we just made. We are finally at a place where we are no longer blaming others f...
189: Copyright, Copy Cats and What Creatives Can Do to Protect Themselves with Autumn Boyd
14 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we welcome Autumn Witt Boyd. Autumn is an experienced lawyer who helps ambitious and creative business owners, such as yourself, rea...
188: Whats a CEO Supposed to Be Doing - Our Journey of Figuring It Out
12 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
We have both been on a very personal journey to try and figure our sh*t out and a lot of it has had to do with figuring out what our role is within ou...
187: Becoming a Wellness Guinea Pig with Monica Woodhams of 45 Fairmount
09 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we welcome Monica Woodhams. Monica is a Success Coach & Lifestyle Expert with over half a decade of experience in the blogging indus...
186: Inventing Your New Possibility
07 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show we are doing things a little bit differently, and taking you through a process that we at The Strategy Hour Podcast believe can make...
185: Planning Ahead For 2018 and Eliminating 50% of My Workload with Sarah Peck of Startup Pregnant
05 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Sarah Peck, who is a writer, startup advisor, and yoga teacher based out of New York City. She is the Founder and Executi...
184: Beginner Business Series - Part 5: Launch, Launch Baby
02 Mar 2018
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, we speak about the stage where most people give up and why you are not going to be one of those people. So let’s recap – by now, ...
183: The Dangers of Procrastinating with Abbi Perets of Successful Freelance Mom
28 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Abbi Perets. Abbi is passionate about showing moms how to have it all and create a business from home. She is the founder...
182: Finding Strength in Adversity: Revisiting Our Past in a Past Episode
26 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
For today’s episode, maybe have a glass of wine when while you’re listening to it. Kick back in your PJ’s, just chill, and be with us for a seco...
181: Releasing the Shame and Creating Real Relationships with Women with Cyndie Spiegel
23 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we are bringing back Cyndie Spiegel. Cyndie is a Brooklyn-based consultant, coach and TedX speaker. She is the founder of The Com...
180: Beginner Business Series - Part 4: Your Marketing Gameplan
21 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are creating your marketing gameplan and we couldn’t be more jazzed. Up until this point in the Beginner Business Series, you have figured ...
179: How to Build an Engaged Community (Online and IRL) with Ashley Knight of Hello Boss
19 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s episode we are super-duper excited to host Ashley Knight of The Hello Boss Community. Ashley founded the community as a means to support ...
178: Beginner Business Series - Part 3: Setting Up Shop
16 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
We’re back for part three of the Beginner Business Series! First off, the response has been great and we just want to thank you for your comments on...
177: How to Eat Healthy When Your Work At Home with Ashley Stephens of Macro Ed
14 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we’re covering a little bit of a different side of the strategy of being a business owner and worker at home. Our guest today i...
176: Beginner Business Series - Part 2: Packaging & Pricing Your Offer
12 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to the second part of our Beginner Business Series! If you have not checked out the first episode in this series we highly recommend you do th...
175: How to Make Your Instagram Algorithm Proof with Melissa Camilleri of Compliment, Inc
09 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Melisa Camilleri of Compliment Inc. Melissa is a high school English teacher turned CEO and Founder; she owns a lifestyle...
174: Beginner Business Series - Part 1: Adopting a Profit First Mentality
07 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
We’re excited to be doing something new over the next few episodes and this is thanks to all your amazing feedback! A question that came up inside t...
173: Mama to Work from Home Freelancer with Micala Quinn of The Live Free Mama Movement
05 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show, we welcome Micala Quinn. Micala is a wife, mom, teacher, lifelong learner and founder of The Live Free Mama Movement. She helps mom...
172: Our Journey to $100K Per Month
02 Feb 2018
Contributed by Lukas
So, we have a crazy idea! We’re excited and nervous about it and can’t wait to share it with you. We have big dreams this year and yep, you guesse...
171: The Problem You Have With Reaching 6 Figures with Lisa Young of Ark Entertainment Media
31 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
We are super excited to welcome our guest on today’s show and we know you will love this episode! We talk to Lisa Robbin Young of Ark Entertainment ...
170: How to Set Boundaries in Your Business & Life
29 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we are tackling a topic that has cropped up in a lot of Facebook groups recently, ours included, and it’s a real good one for disc...
169: Utilizing Software, Building Communication Channels and Striving for Common Goals with Angela Greaser of All the Ops
26 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
We are super excited to welcome a great friend and colleague to the show today, Angela Greaser! Angela works with us as the Director of Operations at ...
168: 2017 Review: How Much We Made, Where the $ Came From
24 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today’s episode is all about the 2017 Review – where we share our triumphs and our milestones, the bumps on the road, the numbers, the sexy data a...
167: How to Use a Podcast to Fill Your Programs with Katie Krimitsos of Biz Women Rock
22 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we have the amazing Katie Krimitsos! Katie is the founder of Biz Women Rock, which is a community and education provider for women e...
166: A Quick Update on our Side Hustles + Other Nonsense
19 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
You guys have been knocking on our virtual door saying, “Give us a damn update on the damn side hustles!” You asked for it, so here it is! The upd...
165: You're Fired - How to Fire Bad Clients and Not Repeat the Same Mistakes with Lauren Goldstein
17 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we have Lauren Goldstein of Golden Key Partnerships. Lauren has been an entrepreneur for over six years and helps businesses with co...
164: Celebrating One Year of Podcasting: Mistakes, Highlights + Lessons Learned
15 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
OMG! We made a whole year of podcasting and we didn’t fall off the bandwagon guys! Yep, we’re officially addicted and this podcast ain’t going n...
163: Our Most Popular Interview of 2017: Getting Your Customers to Say "Yes": Neuroscience and Business with Natalie Franke of Rising Tide Society
12 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Last January, we had Natalie Franke, the founder of Rising Tide Society join us on The Strategy Hour Podcast. Little did we know that 2017 would be a ...
162: 2017 Yearly Breakdown - Lessons Learned + Milestones Reached
10 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Happy New Year everybody! We’ve just returned back after a 12-week holiday and today, we travel back in time to do our monthly review of December 20...
161: Workflow, workflow, workflow with Laura Neff
08 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, we are absolutely delighted to welcome a great friend and massive inspiration, the one and only Laura Neff from Laura Lee Creative!...
160: Our Word of the Year and Why It Matters to You
05 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, we are talking about our word year. We’ll be reflecting on our words for 2017 and revealing our words for 2018. There is an energy ...
159: Our Most Popular Episode of 2017: How to Replace Your Income (in 30 Days) After Getting Laid Off with Abagail Pumphrey
03 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today, we get to hear from Abagail. I sat doing to interview her to learn all about her journey before Think Creative Collective was born. Abagail gra...
158: TCC 2018 Bucket List
01 Jan 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Today, we are going over our 2018 TCC bucket list. Yep, that’s right we are confirming our 2018 dreams it into the world so that you can hopefully b...
157: How Burning Your Bridges Pays Off (Big Time) with Jessica Rodriquez of Day Dream Achiever
29 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show we have a very special guest to share with our listeners, none other than Jessica Rodriguez! Jessica runs The Day Dream Achiever and...
156: Post Mortem of Our Free Challenge + Launch of Our Flagship Program
27 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today, we’re talking about the launch baby! The breakdown, the numbers, the data and the takeaways. For the second time this year we did our Five Da...
155: Scaling Your VA Business with AllieDanae Walker of the Social Walker Agency
25 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s episode we welcome our good friend and social media whizz Allie Danae Walker. Allie owns a Virtual Assistant and Media Managing company c...
154: Setting Your Goals for 2018
22 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
2018 is right around the corner and if you’re feeling flustered about all the things you want to do and achieve, this episode is here to help. Today...
153: 8 Tactics for Creating, Promoting, and Sharing Valuable Video Content, With Andrea Corson
20 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, we welcome the video queen, Andrea Corson. Andrea is an Emmy-nominated television producer, digital strategist and consultant. She ha...
152: 13 Secrets to Work Less and Live More
18 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show, we are dishing out all the secret sauce! We get asked all the time, “How do you get so much done and not work an insane amount of...
151: A (Soon To Be) Million Dollar Bow Business with Shunta Grant of Because of Zoe
15 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We are very excited to welcome Shunta Grant as our guest on today’s show. Shunta is the creator of Because of Zoe Designs, host of the Business, Lif...
150: Communicating with a Growing Team + Our New Favorite Free App
13 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s episode, we’re going to walk you through how we went from communicating as single business owners, to a partnership, to now growing a t...
149: How to Go From Breakdown to Breakthrough with Mary Shores
11 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s episode, we welcome Mary Shores. Mary is the international bestselling author of Conscious Communications: Your Step-by-Step Guide to Har...
148: Decisions Suck, They Don't Have To
08 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
‘Tis the holidays! And we’re heading into good, stressful, happy seasons in business and in life. This is a busy time where we are forced to make ...
147: Prepping Your Product Based Business for the Holidays with Jordan Ellis
06 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we welcome back one of our BFF’s, Jordan Ellis, of Jordandené. Jordan owns a geek chic apparel company where she sells all the...
146: From an Invertebrate Biologist to a Floral Maven with Gina Thresher
04 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Gina Thresher. Gina is the founder of From the Ground Up Floral and she started out her journey, believe it or not, pursu...
145: Starting from Scratch Fears & Fumbles While Growing Our Side Hustles
01 Dec 2017
Contributed by Lukas
The cat’s out the bag! We have just started our own new businesses. Two different business. Two different industries. And we’re building them comp...
144: How We Put Our Business on Autopilot & Had 12 Weeks of Paid Leave this Year
29 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we are talking payments, money, and how it all happens. Now we know we toot our own horns all the time, and we are really freakin...
143: The #1 Marketing Strategy Every Business Owner Forgets (and How it Sabotages Their Growth) with Julie Solomon
27 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have our new friend, Julie Solomon. Julie is a long-time listener, first time interview, and an all-around fan of the podcast....
142: Q&A with Abagail & Emylee: We're Answering Your Burning Questions Live!
24 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We are back for another Q&A with Abagail and Emylee! Sometimes we allow you, our audience, to post up a thread of burning questions in our Facebook Gr...
141: How You Invest Based On Your Personality Type with Jessica Eley
22 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show, we welcome back Jessica Eley, a woman who sets our souls on fire in all the best ways! Jessica is a Mindset coach to high-achieving...
140: Our October Monthly Breakdown
20 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we are back for another monthly review session! This is something that we do on the regular here at TCC so today we thought we’d s...
139: Self-Help Junkie Gives a Behind the Scenes Look at the Strategy Academy with Kendalyn Banks of Sage & Sea Apothecary
17 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We have one of our dreamy students on the show today, Kendalyn Banks. She is a wanna-be mermaid, Lightworker, and Soul Proprietor of Sage & Sea Apothe...
138: Your Business Needs a Roadmap (Here's What To Do In Your First 2 Years of Business)
15 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s show, we will be answering our most frequently asked question: How did you get from point A to point B? We will be sharing what to do, wh...
137: Psychology Driven Brand Strategy + an Opt-in that 55k People Have Dived into with Kaye Putnam
13 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Kaye Putnam. Kaye is is a psychology-driven brand strategist for entrepreneurs. Through work with over a 100 clients, fro...
136: Why We Made Changes to Our Signature Program (pssst...Doors are Opening Soon!)
10 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the shown we are digging into our whole new sales and launch strategy. Previously when we launched programs, we did not really talk about it....
135: Bootstrapping a Brick & Mortar Business with Amber Budd
08 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we welcome Amber Budd. Amber is a self-described Skincare Nerd and the Founder and Creator of her own skincare line, Amber Budd S...
134: 23 Launch Mistakes Your Business Can't Afford
06 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are going to be talking about the 23 launch mistakes that your business can’t afford to make. But before we get started, first and foremost...
133: Be Good to People with Kris Wittenberg
03 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Kris Wittenberg of Be Good to People. We fell in with her brand and the impact it was making on people around the world. ...
132: #5DaysToLaunch Challenge is Back
01 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
The #5DaysToLaunch Challenge is back and we are beyond pumped! If you’re not sure what The #5DaysToLaunch Challenge is, this is a free challenge we ...
131: Spreading Kindness with Carrie McQuaid
30 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show we have Carrie McQuid. If we could describe her in any way, Carrie is truly a kindness spreader. She loves pink, Taylor Swift, confe...
130: Embracing the Lifestyle Brand We've Become
27 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast, we’re doing things a little differently. We are going to have an actual conversation about how our business is going to evolve...
129: Balancing a Membership and Being a Momma with Heather Crabtree of the Savvy Community
25 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have our friend, our mentor, the lovely Mamma Heather Crabtree from the Savvy Community. If you are not familiar with this wom...
128: P.S. - We Also Run an MLM Business
23 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Surprise! We also have another business that’s not TCC! If you haven’t already heard, the truth is we are actually oily, hippie weirdos. The cat’...
127: Overcoming Crisis & Pivoting Your Business with Erin Shebish
20 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s episode we are so excited to welcome on Erin Shebish. Erin is a certified mindset coach for solo entrepreneurs and she helps women find t...
126: This is For You If...
18 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are tackling this concept and this question that we get asked ALL THE TIME. Specifically, we are going to answer it around the framework of T...
125: The Makers Growth Strategy with Megan Auman of Designing an MBA
16 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Megan Auman is a designer, metalsmith, educator, and entrepreneur who has built a multi-faceted business around her passion for art, commerce, and vis...
124: Launching a Product Using Trello
13 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We get asked so many questions all the time about our launches and how on earth we manage to do so many while keeping it all organized, keeping commun...
123: Starving Artist to Instagram All-Star with Amira Rahim
11 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We are so excited for today! On the show we welcome Amira Rahim who is Amira The Abstract. If your eyeballs want some glorious material you need to ch...
122: What a Blogger, a Podcaster, a Consultant and a Soap Maker Have in Common
09 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are bringing you something new and unique and kind of awesome. In this episode you are going to get to hear from alumni from our program, The...
121: The Verticals Method with Reina Pomeroy
06 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Reina Pomeroy. Reina is the founder of Reina and Co, she is a life and business success coach and she helps right-brained...
120: Our September Monthly Breakdown (AKA That Time We Had a 6-Figure Month)
04 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Six-figure September! Yep, last month was the biggest month in TTC history. So today we are going to be breaking down our successful launch by taking ...
119: How This Boss Bootstrapped a $4 Mil. Company with Laura of Meet Edgar
02 Oct 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we welcome Meet Edgar Founder and CEO, Laura Roeder. Meet Edgar is a social media automation tool, that makes sure your social me...
118: Celebrating Two Years for TCC: Reflecting Back and Looking Ahead
29 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Happy Birthday to us (queue birthday song). Did you know Think Creative Collective just turned two? We are worried now, because the terrible two’s, ...
117: Strategies Every Successful Wedding Planner Needs with Madison Sanders
27 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Madison Sanders, of Madison Sanders Events. Madi has been a wedding planner and designer since 2014 (and also, it just so...
116: Our 2nd Rock Your Biz Launch Breakdown
25 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We are here for another launch breakdown, we hope you’re as excited as we are. Today we’re breaking down our second Rock Your Biz launch. We’re ...
115: Tackling Inbox Overwhelm with Val Geisler
22 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the show, we welcome Val Geisler. Val is an Email Marketing Strategist with a passion for digital entrepreneurs. With over a decade of experi...
114: Our Second Challenge Breakdown: 4 Days to Sexy Systems
20 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We’re here for our very first evening recording of the podcast. Today on the show we are breaking down our second free challenge that we hosted rece...
113: Managing Your Small Business Finances with Geily Romero of Cutting Edge Financial Solutions
18 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have the numbers queen, Geily Romero. Geily is a financial consultant and strategist for businesses. She has some amazing know...
112: Rock Your Biz Babe: Boost Productivity and Build Sustainable Freaking Systems for Your Business
15 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Rock Your Biz is back! Doors are open! And we can’t wait to tell you all about this game-changing opportunity starting September 25th. Rock Your Biz...
111: When Your Spouse is Your Employee with Megan Stone of Sweet Chubby Cheeks
13 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
We have a crowd favorite on the podcast today. Megan Stone, owner of Sweet Chubby Cheeks. Megan is a proud Momma to two wonderful kiddos. Her designs ...
110: A Breakdown of a Monthly Review with Think Creative Collective
11 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are recording a live version of us going through our monthly review sheet. What we’re really going to talk about is the process and we are ...
109: Leveraging a Viral Post with Hope Brookins
08 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast, we welcome personal branding and publicity strategist, Hope Brookins. After having her family’s personal story of building a h...
108: Goal Crusher Create a Foolproof Plan So You Can Conquer Anything
06 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are excited to tell you about a workshop coming up next Tuesday, September 12th. We are going to help you create a foolproof plan so you can ...
107: Taking the Work Out of Networking with Renee Dalo of Moxie Bright Events
04 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we welcome Renee Dalo of Moxie Bright Events. Renee is a southern California wedding planner and she is also the leader of the Los Angeles chapt...
106: Tackling Your Systems, Working Backwards, and Avoiding Overwhelm
01 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are talking all things systems. Our main concept is all about working backward to achieve a goal. This may not be a new concept, but it is on...
105: Protecting Yourself When You Collaborate - Christina Scalera
30 Aug 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we have our friend and ultimate boss babe, or should we say, legal babe, Christina Scalera on the show. We are super excited to get into this ep...
104: 4 Days to Sexy Systems: Get Your Shiz Together, Learn How to Prioritize Better and See Results
28 Aug 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today we are talking about the thing that we have created to help you get more organized, get your hot mess systems in gear and what you need to be th...
103: 15 Ways to Combat Mental Illness and Still Run a Successful Business with Marissa Pane
25 Aug 2017
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s episode we welcome Marissa Pane. Marissa is a life coach for women with depression and anxiety, who works to heal and inspire others. We ...
102: Our 6-Figure Affiliate Launch (When NOT To Promote Someone Else's Content)
23 Aug 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Boss babes, you are in for a treat today. We are doing what we normally do after a launch. We are giving you all the nitty gritty details you won’t ...
101 - Leveraging Your Podcast, Hosting In-Person Workshops and Pivoting with Amanda Boleyn of She Did It Her Way
21 Aug 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Today on the podcast we have Amanda Boleyn of She Did It Her Way podcast. Have you heard of her? Well, if you haven’t, she is a rockstar. She Did It...