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The Ruby Ridge Standoff
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The Ruby Ridge standoff still lingers after more than 30 years. But who was at fault for the lives lost? Listen in today to learn all about this dark spot in American history. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What is the Ruby Ridge standoff?
Well, when the government does that or the court system does that, they have to alert you. So they sent Randy a letter saying, saying, hey, we've moved your trial date to March 20th. And of course, it wasn't March 20th, it was February 20th. And there was essentially a typo that the author of the letter, a probation officer, had written.
And so, of course, Randy Weaver didn't show up on February 20th, and a bench warrant was issued for his arrest for failure to appear.
Yeah. So this is has been sort of debated here and there about the mistake and the error that he didn't even have the right court date to begin with. But all indications point to the idea that he was not going to come anyway. So I'm not saying it like didn't matter at all, but they said, hey, we're not coming. I don't think he planned on coming even if he had the right date.
But the long and short of it is he didn't go. And so they, you know, they were really on their radar now. They're like, we've got a real situation here.
And this is when this long, like really long surveillance program started in the summer of 1991, when they they kind of staked out around the property and around the house with, you know, binoculars and things and surveillance cameras that they'd set up in the woods.
Mm hmm.
And they were just tracking what this family was doing. They had a couple of plans to go in nonviolently. One of them was to cut the water supply, I guess, from the spring to the house to flush them out because at a certain point they weren't even like leaving the house. You know, they were having food brought in and stuff because they knew what was going on.
Right.
So another plan they had was they were believers in the menstrual cycle, meaning you were unclean and filthy. So when you had your menstrual cycle in that family, you had to go stay in the birthing shed on the property, one of the outbuildings during the duration of your menstruation.
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Chapter 2: Who were the key figures in the Ruby Ridge incident?
It's insane to stand there. It's just nuts. So, yeah, we should do one on that, too, for sure.
But we got to space these out.
Oh, I agree. You're saying one year? Maybe every December, like a Christmas episode. There you go. Good idea. American tragedy, toy episode, and then our holiday episode. Yeah. Okay. Well, Chuck apologized just a second ago, so that means it's time for listener mail.
Yeah, here's a correction about porcupines that I don't think we got when that initially came out, but it must have been released as a Saturday edition, right?
You bet your sweet bippy it was.
Okay. Hi, guys. My name is Jita O, and I'm an undergraduate at UC Irvine studying biology. I wanted to write about a correction in your porcupines app. Chuck was discussing the fact of how new world and old world porcupines evolve independently of each other. The phrase for that would actually be convergent evolution, not co-evolution.
Oh.
I think I misspoke. Actually, we could probably clear that up in our peacocks episode coming up.
Oh, good idea, Chuck.
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