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Yes.
Marshmello!
Would you say that the idea for being able to just create from any place was kind of that driving factor for you to not be hindered down by making a specific type of music that you were kind of boxed into before? Like this kind of gave you the freedom to do anything in a sense.
I think people have a strange, like, connection with music to where... I mean, it feels like... It's almost, like, mythical to them. Yeah, or they just kind of... I think they put, like, a wall in front, like, behind the artist. And my goal is to go behind that. Behind that wall, yeah. We'll go behind the wall today. It'll be good. So excited today. Oh, baby. For the first time in history...
Did it work right away, or did it take a bit for the music to start catching on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which remix would you say was like the turning point for you that like really pushed to that next level then?
Really?
That's amazing.
What did it feel like to get that call from Skrillex?
Was that the famous call that was the famous call what tell me about that call tell me what that was like I?
We have the most recognizable face in music doing a long-form interview, never been done before. This is true. This is true. An exclusive interview with the one, the only, Marshmello. Oh, yeah.
And then that happens. That's insane.
Yeah, it's interesting, because I've never heard you do an interview before, ever. I've heard you do small things here and there. What made you want to start telling more of your story?
You had like yes or no buttons.
yeah but also the music you have some like the biggest songs that for anyone out there this is one of my favorite questions to ask because it like really just blows people's minds every time i do it for anyone out there who doesn't know who you are what are the songs that they would know you from happier love it wolves with selena gomez fire friends with ann marie amazing come and go with juice world uh leave before you love me with the jonas brothers that's like a that's kind of a sleeper one
Yeah, how the brand, in my opinion, kind of reminds me a lot of Spider-Man, right? Like anyone can be under the mask. It kind of like inspires like so many like generations and everything like that. You've kind of been able to touch so many different generations as well as so many different cultures. Yeah, yeah. How does it feel to be such like a global artist because of that?
I even saw you were like learning all the instruments that they have over there. Yes. Which is so sick.
But it's also like what's cool about having Marshmello is you can make a song that's in dubstep. You can make a song that's in pop. You can make a song that's in EDM. That has allowed for so much for you. What kind of genre is your favorite to make right now then?
Yeah, but it's about to hit like a billion streams, right?
Love that.
I was watching an old interview you did.
I watched every single one.
For a total of ten minutes. You wanted to do a song with Bad Bunny. Yeah. I mean, you kind of made it with the remix, but...
Oh my gosh.
They did.
I saw the first show that you did, 2015. Yeah. And you could see them right there on stage. They look sick.
Incredible. Now, even though you've had all those hits, one of my other favorite questions to ask is how many songs do you think you made until you got like your first big hit?
He is like an icon, you know? It's not just Marshmello, it's the whole fan base, the music, the... The show. At the end of the day, anybody can be Marshmello. And that's what makes this bigger than music. How did this all start for you?
That's crazy if you do. So we'll see. We will see. That'd be cool to show. That'd be crazy.
And there's the video.
Of you using it. Yeah. Were you, like, very receptive to putting that on your head at first, or was there, like, a lot of pushback? Even, like, I mean, at the time, you sounded like you were living with your parents. Were they, like, super receptive to it, too?
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You also are an independent artist, correct? And you've always been independent.
There are some people out there who use that phrase.
Yeah.
But it was also like I think what you were saying earlier, like the music connected a ton.
Yeah.
And also like it was different than what people were doing right now. And it created this mystery of like one, who is Marshmello to anyone can connect with Marshmello.
Yeah.
And then also like the marketing that you guys were doing was just crazy and smart.
It's also very recognizable. Like you see that and you remember it. Yes. As you were saying. Yes. But also, like, if the music didn't connect, then this never would have happened. So it definitely comes from, like, I'd say the music's probably, like, the predominating factor to really push it.
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We talked about Alone.
The next song to really take off for you was that Silence with Khalid. How'd that song come about?
You know what I mean?
I'm excited.
Location and Young Dumb and Broke.
What did he pull you out about?
How did you know that was what was called for?
Yeah.
How many years would you say was GarageBand to Alone?
Like,
Was that the first song that played on the radio for you? Yes. How did that feel?
And also like the label for Khalid is pushing it to radio as well. While you can be an independent artist and focus on everything else.
You know what I mean?
That's sick.
Yeah, that song's great too.
How did Friends come about?
Yeah, YouTube seems to be a real big turning point for you, especially with what you were talking about earlier with Alone. That video connected like no others. I even remember being my freshman year of college, seeing it, and then I just remember it connecting so much. And then everyone finds out that like, oh, where's this voice coming from?
And then you pitch it down and then you find out it's you.
amazing crazy you you did do a lot of promo there there's a ton of interviews that you were silent no pun intended for khalid yeah um and i saw an interview you did with ryan seacrest with ann marie ryan seacrest and ryan seacrest says to you which artist are you excited about any of the song about like us an artist that you're working with that you're collaborating with and you say Bastille.
And his reaction was, really? Which is really interesting. I love Bastille.
So phenomenal, incredible vocals. In my opinion, one of the most underrated bands today. And his reaction being like, really? And I don't think anyone could have... Also, Bastille has one of the best covers of any song ever. We Can't Stop Miley Cyrus. Oh, yeah. He's such a beast. I miss Dan. Like at the time, Bastille, like it's been a bit since they had a hit.
How did Alone come about? How did you make that song? Where did that song come from?
What made you want to work with Bastille and how did Happier come about?
Interesting.
Shout out.
Yeah, of course.
And human.
Yeah, that song hit number two on Billboard.
Was that like the song that really kind of changed? Like, there's like, Alone was the song that kind of catapulted you into the spotlight. Was that the one that kind of pushed you into mainstream in a sense?
It's interesting because I've never heard you do an interview before, ever.
So nobody recognizes you when you don't have the helmet on?
Back then, no. Well, no, just never, really.
So you can just, like, walk around and do whatever you want. Has that been helpful, like, for your sanity, for your mental health?
That's great. Yeah. and you you've had so many songs have connected with so many people one of the artists that truly made an impact that you worked with was juice world tell me about what it was like working with him and then yeah let's just start there sure juice world i remember i was in this house right below us is the living room and now let's start all the way back i'm going to coachella
That's crazy.
And you're just watching a movie and, like, recording music.
Wow.
He's like, turn the Eminem beat back on.
You know, Roddy Ricch does the Mellow Made It Right tag.
But didn't Juice WRLD do one of them too?
You probably have an album full of songs with Juice, probably.
Wow.
Yeah.
I really love that all the songs that you worked on, you're not touching anymore because it was like the last song, like the last version that he heard is the version that everyone hears. I really love that.
Yeah So come come and go that song connected with so many people and what you did what we actually have here is Before I understand this is the you have the original guitar.
Shout out.
When did you get that guitar?
It's like a celebration.
I think it's like 2.5 billion streams.
A lot of people will see you be a DJ, but they probably don't know how many instruments that you play as well.
Oh, I didn't know you mix the songs.
Amazing.
They're like, what? And drums.
And 2.5 billion people, it's just impossible to even imagine.
How do you know when a song is done or you don't?
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We've talked about a lot of the songs that were hits for you, songs that I connected with.
What is one of the songs that you really connect with that you made that you don't really get to talk about it?
I think the song is also like super relatable though because I think throughout our lives there's always a point where we are alone there's always a point we're trying to find community and the music video really stands out because I think a lot of people can relate to this idea of being an outsider these 2.5 billion people can yeah and when we get to the end you get to see all these people kind of accepting because you're doing something that you love in the video which is probably would you say that was kind of what was happening in real life at the time too that kind of mirror
You mean, like, video recording sessions?
So nobody recognizes you when you don't have the helmet on? I always felt like I had nothing to lose. I mean, some people might like see the success and assume certain things.
Yeah.
And he freestyled that song as well.
That's awesome.
But yeah. Before we started this, you talked about two other songs as well that really stood out. Be Kind and Jerk with Oliver Tree.
Be Kind.
Grammy-winning songwriter.
She painted like a thing upside down on SNL while singing the song.
Yeah, the music video stood out a ton, just like Miranda Cosgrove in Happier.
Yeah, that was... That was like her first comeback since iCarly, that I saw her in.
You, I mean, we just talked about so many hits that you've done.
Yeah.
So many things that you've done in music. What would you say to those people who might call you an industry plant?
I connect so much with your story as someone who like six years ago was working in a call center, tried to do everything they could to like made silly little videos and is like on his iPhone recording his 2015 MacBook pro put out three to five videos a day for three years. That's crazy. And all like now having the opportunities that I have now, like, To be able to talk to people like you.
To be able to talk to people like Benny Blanco.
And Ryan Tedder.
And Amy Allen.
And of course, Marshmello. It is insane to have such an incredible opportunity and to be able to do it just because of the work that was put into it. And I completely understand and connect with your story because of it. One of the main reasons I started this series was to shine a light on the people and stories behind music, movies, and media.
But it was also to inspire every underdog to go for it.
100%, man.
and it's so incredible to hear your story today because it you really get to see it come to fruition what is a piece of advice you have for anyone out there who wants to get into this for a career that wants to do something that has a dream that may see themselves as an underdog but want to go for it totally all right there's a thought i always have a memory
Wow.
It's really cool to hear the story of Alone. It was such a defining moment for you and where you are now. But I always like to go into how an artist gets to the point that they are a music producer. How did this all start for you, for music?
I'm still in disbelief that you know how it is so I love it I love it and to end off I think it would be really great to bring out because I believe you have the original helmet is that right I sure do give me that thing dun dun dun here you can hold it first if you want to show the camera
Look at that. What do we think? This is the one that's 14 pounds?
Oh, my gosh.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, does that keep you cool?
Making music.
This is the embodiment of like, just start and you'll figure it out.
Marshmallow, it has been such an honor to chat with you today.
Hopefully many more conversations in the future. I would love to. I have to say that your mission as an artist, a creator, has been so inspiring to me, to so many people out there. Thank you for always doing the music. I don't think it matters who's under the helmet. I think what does matter is how the music brings people together.
So thank you for everything that you do.
And thank you for being a part of this. It's such an honor to have been the first official Marshmello interview.
That's sweet.
I believe you have the original helmet. Is that right?
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Where did the idea for Marshmello come from?
Really?
Mr. Wellers don't like it when you say his name by the bog, city boy.
Mr. Wellers likes them universal donors, don't you know?
Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you for that idea, Hunter.
i knew this one would get to you it's like i imagine if i had like willem defoe's green goblin like yes use your hatred i knew this one would get to you only fools are heroes clancy i knew this one would get to you marcus answered with half with a half grin or well
He's being so coy. In spite of everything you've done for her, eventually she will hate you. Eventually she will hate you, Clancy. In this world, it's drip or drown, Spider-Man.
Give me the letter. Give me the letter.
Everything you can get away from me, Batman.
But regardless, if he was, you know, guilty or not, he still is capable of committing that crime, his sleep. So there still is a danger there potentially. Right. Either way, he is a danger to the people around him. Right.
Yeah. Thousand percent.
I haven't slept walked, but my brother slept walked once when I was a kid. My mom woke me up in the middle of the night because she was kind of confused what was going on too. And I'm sure you probably were around your brother when he was sleep walking. It's kind of weird. They're in like a trance. Yeah, it's kind of scary. They're not responsive normally.
And they're just kind of like, they'll look at you, but they don't see you. They look straight through you. It is kind of scary. It is. But we ended up just sending him right back to bed. He went back to bed and everything was fine.
I just wanted to chime in really fast. I'm sure we've all heard the myth about how you're not supposed to wake a sleepwalker, right? And the myth is saying that it's going to cause them some form of like
medical issue like a heart attack or something like you i'm sure as kids you probably told josh that if you wake your brother up something bad's gonna happen to him right i think it's gonna be bad for his health i just yell at him from across the room yeah joel what are you doing I'm here to debunk that myth. It's not true. You can wake someone who's sleepwalking.
The only danger with it is that they might be in a frightened state when you do wake them up due to confusion. You don't know why they're there. And that's where that danger can come from is because they're going to wake up in a fight or flight mode. So it's not usually recommended to wake someone up who is sleepwalking. Just if you can guide them back to their bed and they'll go to sleep.
You only should wake them up if they are potentially going to cause harm to themselves or others.
Sleep racism. Yeah, right, right.
I mean, it does sound like a dream.
So I actually kind of want to trigger warning about the cat, but I kind of want to bring the cat back to that first case. So I'm a cat owner. And if I was being, you know, aggressive towards my cats like that, they would attack me. They would scratch me. They would yell. And if that didn't wake me up, isn't it kind of also possible that your wife screaming wouldn't wake you up? True. Right.
I mean, doesn't that kind of help?
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Got a sugar high.
I mean, like I said earlier, I think Scott was innocent. I do think it's a legitimate defense. I'm probably on the same line as Austin where it's going to be extremely rare for it to be, you know, legitimate and it's going to get abused and it's going to be insanely hard to prove. But I do believe that it's real. There's science to back it up.
Unlike a lot of the other things that I'm very, you know, Are you talking about the paranormal? I was going to bring it up, but yeah.
I think it depends on the evidence to back it up. If they have no history of sleepwalking, that'd be, that'd be a little difficult.
Life out, everybody.
Total. Das ist unglaublich.
Was war deine erste Vorstellung von Josh, als du ihn gesehen hast?
Ich erinnere mich an High School. Das war verrückt.
300.000.
Ich glaube, das ist Pachamama genannt. Ja, das ist eine Übersetzung für Muttergott.
So interesting. It's like a rainforest. Yeah.
Er war wütend und hat ihn genommen und ins Meer gerannt.
It's like you can't excuse it. It's just one of those things where it's like anywhere else you could take it to a museum, wherever you want, but it's like you can't expect that to be okay. Everyone would be like, yeah, we're fine with that, right? Mother, God, sure, why not?
Es war einfach so friedlich. Und er ist so, okay, dann lass uns. Mit dem, mit der Leidenschaft des Christus, mit dem Licht, wie zwischendurch.
Aber er hat es noch nicht angefangen, also wird es schon Jahre dauern. Aber es wird wirklich interessant werden. Wie visualisierst du so etwas? Er macht großartige Projekte. Er verbirgt sich vollständig in die ganze Sache.
Nenn fünf andere Chase-Movies. Nenn fünf. Speed.
Er ist ein bisschen... Er ist immer so gewesen, aber es scheint so zu sein. Das ist, weshalb er so gut war in Lethal Weapon und alles, weil er so verrückt war.
Oder er sagt, ich wurde als Alkoholiker geboren. Ich erinnere mich als Kind, und ich hatte in der 5. Klasse, ich erinnere mich, wie groß die News war, als er rauskam und sie hatten die Audio-Rekorde von ihm, als er seine DUI und so und den Rant und wir wurden von Hollywood verblendet. Ich bin wie, warum weiß ich das als Kind?
We'll have to go through those a little bit later. Try the voice effects. I love technology. I love technology.
Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass nach so einem Moment, in dem die ganze Welt dich als einen schlechten Mann sieht, das kommt raus. Ich meine, das ist schwierig zu behandeln. Und nach diesem Punkt ist es so, dass wenn die Leute dich immer noch lieben und dich akzeptieren, und wenn du weißt, dass Gott es auch, dann ist es sofort.
Ich denke, es wird einfacher, weil ich denke, okay, vielleicht sollte ich einfach nur mich selbst sein oder wer ich sein soll. We know why he was blacklisted from Hollywood?
No, I mean, he came out, his DUI thing, did you ever hear that? He had an audio recording where it's like he's going off on Jewish people, a lot of bad stuff. And so it just was an avalanche of bad things. Yeah, really interesting podcast, though. I love that. Very good. Rogan's hearing a lot of Bible lately, dude. For real, man. He is. Do you hear that Wesley Huff guy? Yeah.
Dude, that was, I mean, it's working for sure, I think. He's definitely curious.
And he is, he is...
Yeah. There was stuff that like I was reminded of college though. Like I completely forgot like how people counted days back then. I remember learning that and like it's just crazy how much I don't retain. And when you meet people like that, that can just like, not even just the retain, like pronunciation of all of those things. Yeah. Knowing the years. I'm like, that's some other level, dude.
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Es war noch nie einfacher, Jesus in dieser Zeit zu finden.
Ich meine, in der Welt, ich denke nicht. Ich meine, welche Plattform haben wir in der Geschichte jemals so groß, um Jesus auf dem Display zu haben? Ich denke, das ist das coolste Ding. Ja, aber es ist furchtbar, weil sie TikTok wegnehmen.
Ja, und viele Leute schauen einfach nur auf Jesus als eine echte Person. Und sie negieren nicht nur seine Existenz mehr, sondern schauen einfach nur auf ihn. Das ist wirklich cool.
Ja, ich denke, dass es viele ist. Es ist einfach so, dass sie es für sich selbst wissen wollen. Sie wollen ihren eigenen. Und ich denke, das ist einfach so. Die Leute, die jetzt große Plattformen bekommen, reden wirklich über wirklich echte Dinge.
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That's so funny. Guys, these are traps.
Ja, ich weiß nicht, ob es etwas verrücktes gibt, außer das eine Satellitenbild, das wir gesehen haben, das ich nicht weiß, ob es legit war oder nicht. Die drei Feuerzeuge gehen gleichzeitig aus in verschiedenen Bereichen. Es war ein Aerial-Video.
Wie Arsonisten. Do we know their names? No. Interesting. Yeah. See, if there was a conspiracy around it, if you needed to cause chaos, smart cities, whatever, I mean, that's just like, if they're the people that get caught, then they need to be, hey, this person is at blame. Let me know their name, because if not, then it's like... We can't really trust that. That's kind of scary.
If you know the people who did it then. And the water reservoir. Yeah, that's a big one.
Oh Mann. Es ist furchtbar.
Ja, das ist alles, was ich gesehen habe. Ich habe jemanden's Video gesehen, wie sie die Zeiten verbreiten, als sie das Haus verlassen und so. Und es ist der Wind, Alter. Wie einfach außerhalb ihres Hauses.
It was blowing like 50, 60 miles an hour and you gust and you could just see embers. I'm like, that is so terrifying. Are you talking about the RingCam footage where it was like blowing through? Possibly. I can't remember. Yeah, I think there was some and then some of the car.
Great thinking, guys. Scary stuff. One guy literally bought sprinklers because he had a fire like three or four years ago. He bought a bunch of hoses and a bunch of sprinklers in preparation. He set those out and it literally was the only safe house on the block, I think. Just because he had the sprinklers going on his roof.
Ich kann es nicht vorstellen.
It's a bunch of Chaos. Ja, und es ist schwer, über Konspiratoren zu sprechen, weil es eigentlich so real ist für viele Leute.
And because of one type of fish? Yeah. It only exists there?
We can go without one fish. There's millions of types of species of fish.
Ehrlich gesagt, ja. Ich habe gerade eine News-Story gesehen, wo... Weißt du, wie ich es nicht... Vielleicht hast du es gewusst, vielleicht nicht. Ich wusste nicht, wie wir Internet von Land zu Land verbinden. Es sind literally Wände im Ozean. Ich habe das letztes Jahr gelernt, richtig? Ja. Und die News hat viel darüber gesprochen.
Ich habe drei oder vier Clips von großen News-Sourcen gesehen, wie... This is how our internet works. And China threatened to... They're doing it. Yeah, they're cutting the lines. But my thing is... Wow. Conspiracy, possibly. It's like when we start seeing people talk more and more about these things, especially American news, it makes you wonder, they're trying to plant that information.
So if they ever do cut the internet... We don't know if that's China. We don't know if that's Russia. It could be our own people. We would have no idea whatsoever. And so, I mean, all the comments were like, great, now they're planning to shut down their internet. Like, it's calling.
die amerikanische Leben genommen haben, die Leben ungewöhnlicher Menschen. Und so ist es so, was ist das? Weißt du, sie stoppen das nicht. Sie haben nicht nur gesagt, weißt du was, das war uns falsch. Es ist so, nein, sie sind nur secretiv darüber. Sie müssen es sein.
Und sobald wir bei ihnen sind, ist es wie, wir sind zu spät. Es ist wie, ja, wir haben das vor fünf Jahren gemacht. Du wirst tot, wenn das passiert. Also, keine Sorge. Wir haben keine Kontrolle.
Dude, it looked fake. And then I went to the website and it was real. It's such a good website and all these people. I'm like, wait, no, Enron is a real company. I know, but it's like historically bankrupt.
Ich weiß nicht, warum sie es Enron nennen würden. Enron hat so eine negative Konsequenz. Es hat eine negative Konsequenz. Es hat eine negative Konsequenz. Es hat eine negative Konsequenz.
Yeah, like, I don't know what they were doing, but they, they went, they screwed over a lot of people back in like, it was the 90s, I think. Oh, yeah. And yeah, it was, I remember the logo of it at all and everything. They did a fantastic job of... The website's incredible.
Okay. That's so great. That's good, though, because it literally... It's like a TED-Talk. The guy's giving a big speech. And it was so convincing. And I'm like, this seems like a bad idea.
It's so frustrating. Big oil. Big milk. I think milk's behind it.
That was crazy. Yeah. Rigged. Yeah. Chocolate milk is pretty good. I had two bottles of it every Saturday and Sunday. And I started my day like that. And I'm like, I want every day to start like this. I love chocolate milk. Speaking of chocolate milk.
I don't think pooping in people's yards is normal, but I don't, I mean, there's probably some kid that has to go pick up your poop. They're like, go pick up the dog's poop. And they're like, whose is this? Let's clean this.
There's no way I would have respected her wishes.
How often are you guys taking, were you guys taking like mid, like concert poops or peas or like emergency stuff?
Ich bin völlig überzeugt, dass jedes Mal, wenn jemand eine Wardrobe-Change an einem Konzert macht, es ist, weil sie Pumpe brauchten. There you go. I just think they're like, we have to make an excuse. Honestly, that would make her so much more relatable. We just knew she was just exploding the bathroom up. Give me something new, I can't wear this anymore.
That's kind of cool, though.
It takes more time to board the plane than to actually...
What about the Pooh-Bass? We still haven't heard a Pooh-Story. He's trying to change the subject.
I mean, it's just... Any embarrassing ones? When's the last time you pooped your pants?
Yeah, the turtle head.
Es war schrecklich. Also du kackst dich auf, du bist voll mit Anxia.
Very good one. I love that each poop story always has a different element of panic. Like Hardy's one, it was like having no pants. Like pooping on a hotel floor. There's always aspects of it that really make it special.
I feel like Christian bands had such more hardcore names than most.
Dude. Were they just supposed to run at each other? Oh mein Gott.
A human with an owl head would be the scariest thing, I think.
He was like choking.
My back wisdom teeth are completely cracked and everything. It's crazy. I can literally go back and I can touch where it's cracked and you can feel the softness of it, dude.
It hurts so bad. So when are you doing this? I'm hoping next month, but the thing is, we have so much junk happening next month, so I might try to push too much. You gotta get her done, dude. I know, it's gonna require a ton of surgery. Getherdone.com, man.
Diamond dust?
Microscopic pieces all over. What does that do?
Yeah, and we can say whatever we want, like people just don't know what fog is, but it's like, this is multiple reports, people are saying this is abnormal, and it's like, if a lot of people are thinking the same thing, there's got to be something up, whether it is natural or whatever, but like, Das ist super seltsam.
What in the world? It was very strange. I'm just getting you some diamonds, babe.
Breathe in like a diamond.
What's wrong with... That just seems weird. Frothy? Yeah, I don't like that word. Oh, yeah. As soon as he said it, I'm like... It was kind of like how people say moist. Like, I'm like... As soon as he said frothy, I'm like... Moist and slacks are way worse.
Frothy. I'm still tripping out. Frothy slacks.
Oh yeah, but I've been... Yeah. Who knows? Dude, that North Carolina hurricane still trips me out. Yeah. Just that pattern, that whole thing, dude. That was crazy.
Dude, it's wild. There's been so much as big stories that I've just completely forgot about. Luigi, die Drohnen, der Hurrikan. Luigi, hast du das gehört?
Because they probably embrace the meme aspect of it. Like, just like, that's great.
Yeah, for real, yeah.
Ja, ja, ja.
Ja. Ja. It's really interesting what... I don't think he's a hero, by the way.
You shouldn't just kill people.
No, there's justice and then there's just like... There's other ways to do it. Maybe just like pants him in front of a crowd or something. Do it. Make it go viral, man. Pull down his slacks, right?
Way better option than shooting. Absolutely. Kann ich dir erzählen, was ich in diesem britischen Spiel-Show gefunden habe? Das ist eine Geschichte, die ich erzählen möchte. Bitte. Es ist unglaublich. Mein Bruder hat es mir gerade gesendet. Anscheinend, nicht zu lange her, etwa 10, 15 Jahre her, gab es dieses Show in Britannien, das sie machten.
Und sie wollten sieben Menschen, Zivilisten, trainieren, um Astronauten zu werden. In drei Wochen. Und dann werden sie sie in den Raum senden. Wow. Was sie nicht wussten, war, dass es alles ein Prank war. Oh mein Gott, das ist großartig. Sie haben eigentlich Auditionen gemacht, sie haben Tests gemacht und so weiter.
Sie haben sieben Leute getroffen, die den globalen Publikum, den sie suchen wollten. Sie haben diese Leute getroffen und für drei Wochen haben sie sie trainiert, alle auf der Kamera, alle dokumentiert und nur, um sie die meisten verrückten Dinge zu machen, wie schwarze Schuhe und Yoga-Posen und so weiter. Sie machen sie einfach, weil sie Episoden davon machen. Ja, ja, ja.
They've got screens that are showing their travel. They're all looking at it. There's even a point where they say they're in front of the planet Uranus. And they have to do a pledge. And they literally say, I stand before Uranus. And so they're just making content and stuff. And then on their fifth day up there in space, they say, because they've prepped them for this, for one spacewalk.
So they get up there, they prep them and everything. Everyone's in their suits. And when they open up the door, they walk out and it's a live studio audience. Everyone's completely shocked. Some people are laughing. Some people are angry. It's like, dude, it was, I just couldn't believe they pulled that off. I think that's like, I don't know why.
I don't know why we don't do fake reality shows more. It's so entertaining. Ethics maybe. Ja, ich meine, ich meine, ich denke, es ist so, es gab einen, den ich als Kind erinnere. Es war ein Show auf MTV oder wie oder Sci-Fi oder so etwas, aber sie fakten einen Horrorfilm. Und es hat es einfach wie einen dieser günstigen Horrorfilme gemacht.
Und so wie die Tätigkeit war schrecklich, aber sie filmten es alles, aber es war alles für ein Realitätsshow. Und so waren sie einfach sie die ganze Zeit zeigen, sie machen all diese Stunts und acten schrecklich. Und dann war es so, dass es eigentlich kein Film gab. Sorry, I don't think I would take that well.
Das war der erste Film, den ich jemals gespielt habe. Das war der erste Mal, dass ich mit Kelsey zusammengehalten habe. Wir sind mit meinem Freund nach Hause gegangen. Ich habe ihr einen schrecklichen Mac & Cheese gemacht. Ich habe immer den extra Mac & Cheese-Powder genommen. Und dann habe ich es doppelt gemacht. Es war nur Nudeln und Noten-Powder.
Ich habe also nur einen Schredded-Cheese-Powder genommen. Und es war schrecklich. Aber wir saßen unten und wir haben Blair Witch Project gesehen. Und ich habe sie komplett überzeugt, dass es eine echte Sache war. Oh mein Gott.
Yeah, we keep getting messages from Mr. Captain Cody. But yeah, dude, all these weird noises. What could it possibly be?
It's weird. It's really strange just how like old some of these ideas are. Oh yeah. And how like cross-culturally like it's everywhere, man.
The Jedi. Ralph Fiennes.
Who's in it too?
Ja.
Who's hurting you? Your mother.
I was trying to help you.
Tom Holland, Zendaya, Robert Pattinson, Matt Damon, Charlize Theron. It's going to be baller. That is a lot of big actors. Wow.
It's not going to come out forever, though. No.
They did that for Batman vs. Superman. They've teased that for like 10 years. I'm like, just do it.
It's like, oh, so frustrating.
Still waiting on GTA 6. Okay.
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Verdammt verrückt. Verrückt. Verrückt. Verrückt. Verrückt. Verrückt. Verrückt.
Totally original.
Never. Especially not for the past 30 years. Yeah.
Listen, this is not the place to talk about conspiracies right now. This is the wrong... We're not roguing, okay?
Was ist die Geschichte hinter dem?
Ist es interessant, dass jede Kultur das hat? Etwas wie das. Ja, sicher. Es ist sehr seltsam, besonders die Dinge, die sich verändern. Es ist sehr normal. Es macht dich denken, Mann. Das ist so schrecklich.
Chris Angel, mind free.
That is how much magic runs through my veins because I'm a mind freak. Explain that. I can't.
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Sizzle, sizzle. Get them while they're hot. And Merry Christmas. And Merry Christmas. Ah!
But it's cool, right? But it's ribbiting. Am I correct?
I don't got time.
How'd they find them dogs? How'd they find them dogs?
Blasphemy!
They're like, oh, my God, there's a balloon.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah.
But have you seen the new stuff?
Okay.
I said it, I said it again, uh, Personally, me, I grew up in the street. I don't know my family, mom or dad. I grew up in one of the biggest orphanage in Haiti, which is the Saint-Denis du Carrefour. After this was destroyed, BNS Social took me to this monster house, right? And then,
things started happening okay we went to people to the i mean to the police station everywhere we go they said no we're lying we're lying we're lying nobody believe us because his guys control the whole the whole thing he's like he's like he's like a mafia boss it's not only him they got priests pastors doctors out there they're still out there doing the same thing okay and then what happened is those people when they said though we lie and we need money with this with that that's him
that's the picture he paints he paint the wall like and and the outside he's like a smooth guy but in the inside is the devil so that's why he tell people they need papers you know they need paper they want to say to united states they need money that this is that no and it's like 200 kids cannot come to life the same guys and then you've been to dead in haiti and then you went to the dominican probably do it again you went to mexico you left mother to laser and all that
So I want people to understand when your kids tell you something, just pay attention to it. Pay attention to it. Don't just say, yo, you lying and you need money. This guy is a white guy. He got money now. You know, don't do that. Just listen to your kids. Listen to every kid.
Defense attorney Daniel Taylor says they are going to reevaluate the case and go from there.
I was kind of, like, sick to my stomach.
And Almeida made good on that promise, according to Polson. Said, you're friends with Jack.
You know that cop I'm cool with? I'm like, yeah. And he was like, yo, he was trying to throw some dirt on your name type shit. And he was saying some shit happened and like, you know, you was working with some people and shit like that.
You know, that boy Buggin', like, he's tripping, you feel me? Like, he must have got some names mixed up or something, you feel me?
I was a little nervous, but, you know, I got to brush it off. Like, you know, I can't show that. I got to keep the poker face on. But inside, I was like, you know, of course I was nervous. You know, there was guns around and shit. Shit could go any way, you know?
I felt like there was a magnifying glass on me. Some people heard that, you know, and they were like, what the fuck is that cop saying? Why the fuck is that cop saying that? But then some people were like, nah, that cop must be bugging out. Like, no, not Daniel, not him.
Yeah, basically. You know, I couldn't be like, no, I'm straight, I'm straight. Like, I kind of, like, had to go. I'd be looked at even more funny, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I was thinking? That there was no way that we were going to get out of that position.
I admitted to it because I was telling them the honest conversation and the thing, breaking it down to them. I was working with this person, and I'm breaking it down to them.
I think of it all together, and I'd be like, damn, I wish I did have a fucking time machine.
There's been a bunch of close calls. You know, I try to avoid it, you know what I'm saying? But there have been a bunch of close calls.
I don't know. I just, I wake up and I should be hoping for the best. You know, I can't even tell you. Honestly, you know, I just go with the flow. Now I'm in the situation where I'm around a whole bunch of other known violent gang members and it's all the way fucked up, you know what I'm saying?
It just depends on who's on the unit and who comes through the door.
Like, I could be good today and the last week and the week before that, but then they let the wrong face come through here.
So I can see every new face that comes into the jail, you know?
You know, because if I don't see who's coming into jail, then I might not see somebody and I might not know, like, you know, that person knows me. And when I wake up, something's going to happen, you know what I'm saying?
This kid approached me with a knife in his pocket and, you know, he was like, we heard you, you was working with the police and shit. Now you got to get the fuck up out of here or you're going to get stabbed.
Tell her it's an emergency. I said it's an emergency and he needs to talk as soon as possible, please.
What's going on? I'm so stressed out, Doogie. You're the only number I can call. I'm so stressed out.
Walk me through that stop. They brought me into the station after.
Get a job, you know, work, stay out of the way, just do what I have to do. You know, stay away from all the... Negative stuff.
Eventually, it got to the point where we barely played basketball and we just smoked weed.
Then they put us out the car. They found it on the girl and they locked me up too, saying that they'd seen me handed to her.
Two officers sit him down and start pressing him.
They want him to inform, to snitch.
It was kind of quick, you know? It was like in and out.
Like, I don't want to go to jail. And that was really it.
They just wanted one gun. And then they were like, you'll be done. Basically, just this one time type shit. You know what I'm saying?
I was just like, all right, whatever. You know?
Well, I signed it. And then when I signed, they were like, you have a week.
At first, they kind of made it seem like I still owe them.
The second time, I'm like, okay, if I don't do this, then what are they going to be on some shit with me? So let me just do this one last time.
I was supposed to be done. But after they just kept calling me and calling me and calling me and texting me, do you got anything? Do you got anything? After that, it just kept going and going and going.
I wasn't going to win. I just did whatever they wanted. I mean, whatever they wanted me to do, I would do it.
I obviously felt guilty, no matter who it was. You know what I'm saying?
And they pulled us over, and then I was sitting in the car. Basically, there was state police and everybody there.
You know, I was just kind of like looking down. It was raining, drizzling a little bit. Like, you know, like I didn't pay no mind. And then he like took down my name and he's like, how do you spell it? And I looked up at him and I'm like, I seen who it was.
I was trying to figure out what happened. Is he fucking with you? He's like, no, he's mad cool. He used to go to high school with me. He's cool, you know what I'm saying? He was like, yeah, they communicate and all that, and they had each other's phone numbers and all that. They were cool.
Jack was telling me, like, yo, that cop tells me everything.
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What you want to know the craziest part? Because my mom, babes, me and my brothers all together. And out of nowhere, I locked up. And then my dad was calling my name, and I started going to the slow thing. And he said, stop playing with me. And I started to act slow. And then as soon as he said that, we was speeding all the way, running lights, going to the hospital.
And then next thing you know, I was seizing on the table. They said, no, we're going to have to go on his brain tonight. Ever since then, I had 13 brain surgeries. And that's how many times my personality has changed. And that's something that you don't hear from a terminally ill child. They have five months to live. I'm going to keep on going into my gas tanks right now.
And that's when God calls you home. You never know when God's going to call you home. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my dad. I know he's pretty proud of me, and I'm pretty proud of him, too. And I'd like to thank President Trump, because if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here today.
Thanks, Charlie. I'm delighted to be on. Elbridge Colby is one of the few people in sort of advanced and elite Washington, D.C. circles who has actually been a friend of the Donald Trump program from the very beginning, especially in foreign policy.
And he's someone who's seen as a threat by a lot of other insiders in Washington, by those who want to see America kind of return to the unsuccessful foreign policy of Joe Biden and Barack Obama and indeed George W. Bush.
So Bridge Colby is someone who can sort of act as an intellectual axle to bring together these sort of different components of the machine to advance President Trump's foreign policy and America First foreign policy. And there are people who want to prevent that from happening.
They want to throw spanners in the works, basically, and prevent Colby from being nominated to the number three slot in the Pentagon. And they want to fill the Trump administration to the extent they can with neoconservatives and people who are going to be trying to foil Donald Trump's plans. And unfortunately, Senator Tom Cotton has gone along with this to some degree.
And I have to credit you, Charlie, for being the first person to speak out on X and basically call out Senator Cotton for doing the bidding of people like Bill Kristol.
Well, he would be the undersecretary for policy, which, as the name suggests, is responsible for a lot of the formulation of exactly how America, how our defense apparatus is going to approach other nations around the world. It's a very important strategic role. And so you can see why there is a great deal of scrutiny being applied to Bridge Colby.
And, you know, you can also see why people who don't like the president's agenda and don't like what Bridge Colby represents, why they think that if they can sabotage this, they'll actually score a lot of points and be able to really cripple what Donald Trump's trying to do in reorienting American foreign policy towards America's national interest.
So it's a critical policymaking grand strategy kind of position. And Bridge Colby is exactly the right person for it. And there's an awful lot of pressure, however, being brought to bear sort of behind the scenes. There's this whispering campaign against him, putting out all sorts of just nasty rumors because there's no honest case to be made against this gentleman.
He really is someone who comes from a patriotic family. He's someone who has, again, sort of withstood all the pressures to conform within Washington. And now the question is, will this whispering campaign now being led perhaps by Senator Cotton, succeed in derailing this gentleman who would be a true asset to President Trump's agenda.
Speak to that. Yeah, you know, the difference between Trump 1 and today is that Trump 1 had so many of these disloyal staffers who were able to restrain the president and keep his foreign policy from going in the direction where he wanted to take it. President Trump really does have, first of all, an America first view, yes. but also an America's first view.
He sees the strategic importance of our own hemisphere as being paramount, which is why Secretary Rubio spent his first trip going to the Caribbean and to Central America. It's why we've been talking about Greenland so much. We have to defend our own hemisphere, keep the influence of people like China. from reaching into our own backyard.
When it comes to Europe, what's absolutely essential for Europe's own defense is that the Europeans themselves be the primary providers, that they be fully invested, not only in terms of the money they spend for the military that they have, but also that they should be willing to be the first line of defense of their own continent and their own borders. Right now, that's not the case.
Right now, they are expecting America to to pay for their defense. And they're expecting ultimately if their borders are attacked by Russia or anyone else, that it's American lives that are going to come out and save them.
So you've got a Europe that's actually become steadily weaker over the past 30 years since the end of the Cold War because of their over-reliance on America and their unwillingness to pony up either the men or the moral commitment in order to defend themselves. So Trump is changing all of that.
He would have changed it back between 2016 and 2020, except there were so many people within his own administration, including even in the Defense Department, even in the Secretary of State's offices. that wanted to prevent Trump from going in this direction.
They wanted to keep America basically with this consensus, bipartisan foreign policy that we're getting from everyone from George Bush to Barack Obama, ultimately to Joe Biden. So Trump is trying to really reorient our foreign policy for the first time since the end of the Cold War. And to do that, he's going to need a team that is loyal to him and that has the right ideas.
And Bridge Colby is certainly someone who fits that description.
Well, the Monroe Doctrine is, of course, sort of the cornerstone of American foreign policy going back more than 200 years. And the Monroe Doctrine basically says that we're going to prevent other kinds of imperial powers from reaching into our hemisphere. And certainly that's one of the questions where Greenland comes up. It's where the Panama Canal comes up.
The Panama Canal is being very directly influenced right now by China. They have a certain economic stake in it, and there's a risk that they're going to have have more economic sway and more political sway over the canal, which is absolutely vital to our interests. Then with Greenland, right now, America's already basically responsible for providing for Greenland's defense.
So it's kind of silly that we're paying the price for defending Greenland, but we don't actually have a kind of formal relationship between our nation and Greenland. Instead, Greenland is still controlled by Denmark.
In the long run, however, there's a danger that Greenland, because of its strategic position in the Arctic, is going to be heavily influenced by other powers that want to be involved in Arctic politics. And certainly, Russia increasingly looks to the Arctic as a place to expand its power.
There is a danger that even though China is not directly in the Arctic, they may want to be able to use their expanding naval power and their expanding financial influence to influence a small, in fact, a tiny country like Greenland. Greenland's a huge island, but its population is only about 50,000 souls or so.
And so you can see how they could be susceptible to any great power that comes after them, which is why it's very important that America be the great power that is providing for their protection, rather than have the Chinese or someone else be able to come in and influence them. So all of this is about defending America's national interests
It's not about trying to export democracy to far off lands and transform other cultures into models, replicating our own. That's the imperial project that America had been embarked on since the end of the Cold War, basically. This is instead focusing on America first, which also means focusing on our neighborhood first, and that is the other Americas and the rest of the Western Hemisphere.
The neocons are really smart, and I point this out in my essay for Compact Magazine on why Bridge Colby is so important. The neocons realize that if they go to the American public, if they go straight to the voters, the voters won't take them up on the kind of imperial democracy-promoting agenda that the neocons want to endorse. The voters just won't go for it. So they don't do that.
And they also realize that, you know, if you try to elect a pure on, you know, sort of pure neoconservative like Bill Kristol, try to send him to the Senate or, you know, nominate him for president, that's not going to work.
You may recall, Charlie, that back in 2016, Bill Kristol had the lunatic idea that he would get David French to run for president and that David French would somehow be the neocon candidate to stop Donald Trump. It's just ridiculous. They can't win elections and they can't serve in office.
But what the neocons are very clever about doing is instead insinuating themselves into the staff and into the offices of office holders.
So in other words, you don't have to win elections if you're the guy, if you are responsible for the staffing positions of the office holders, because the office holders themselves are often choosing from a menu of policy that has been written up by their staff or that has been sort of spun by ideologues and think tanks and magazines.
That's where the neocons have a chokehold on American policy and on the American right. And that's where they're really concerned they're going to lose that chokehold and that grip if Bridge Colby gets into the Pentagon.
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OK, so I want to ask about election integrity legislation, because this is something that, you know, obviously here with the fraud that we saw in 2020 and in 2024, that we can codify some of these things into law. The SAVE Act. I believe was reintroduced in the new Congress, but I haven't heard it go anywhere. Is there a plan for it or what are your thoughts about that?
Daniel Penny has been acquitted. It's great news for pretty much all Americans, other than, I guess, people who want to terrorize innocent people on the subway. I want to play a clip that we have. This is the response of Jordan Neely's father to the news today. Let's play clip number 20.
So it's that last line there that stands out. Let's do something about this. And I couldn't quite make it out, but I think you could hear some protest chants going on in the background as well. Do we still have Joe with us?
So I'm not sure if you could hear that, but we were just playing the clip of Jordan Neely's father saying, let's do something about this. So I was wondering, you know, we ran out of time there before the break. Could you expand a bit on the overall vibe? Did it feel menacing around the courthouse at all? Like there was a very strong cohort of people really braying for Daniel Penny's blood?
They just delivered a unanimous, not guilty verdict for Daniel Penny. The state of New York's effort to ruin his life, to put him in jail for years, if not more than a decade, has failed. We can all celebrate today. I think we can agree this is the biggest courtroom win for an ordinary American since Kyle Rittenhouse a few years ago.
So looking back over the course of the trial, you were able to observe the jury. Obviously, there's also a lot of experts there. Do you have a sense maybe what proved decisive in Newsom being able to or Neely being able to win his freedom? Is there something that really affected people?
All right. I think we're just we're getting the clip here. Yeah, let's this is what you were just describing. I think let's play Hawk Newsome getting a little menacing after the announcement today. Let's play clip 21.
And we're doing our best to get a reporter who was inside the courtroom when this came down. Until then, do we have Jack? Jack, welcome. Welcome, Jack. We have Jack Posobiec joining us. Can you hear us? I've got you, Blake.
You were pretty strong words. Wow. That was that was some volcanic rhetoric. I think obviously that'll have a lot of people on edge. I think what we can be hopeful for, though, is. I think what we're all hopeful for is that this won't cause an explosion of violence or looting or anything like that. I think what most of us would prefer is for people to just tell them to go away.
Maybe he'll get slapped with some sort of charges over that if it's too inflammatory, but... A lot of this is... It's just people... It's crazy to think that four years ago, everyone just went in fear of this group of people. They could get almost anyone prosecuted, thrown in jail. They almost could act with impunity. And this time, they didn't get their way.
And a heroic man, an innocent man, is going free. And... I know I'm celebrating. I guess you're a reporter.
I don't want to expect you to celebrate off the cuff, but I think this was the right outcome in the case, and I know a lot of people were following this, and it's good to see that people didn't get the tunnel vision of thinking that the protesters who were right outside, who were not going to work that day and were just coming in to protest during the trial, that they were not the mob that would just get its way.
Any other thoughts on the case? I mean, you've been you've been following it longer than just about anyone.
Joe, thank you very much. And thank you for coming on. And I'm just taking in the full extent of what this is all going to mean. And I think you're correct that a big thing we need to focus on is it doesn't end here. Obviously, if you can donate to support him, if his Give, Send, Go is still operating, we'll want people to support that. And we have to make sure that we follow up on...
Building a world where there's not even a fear that if you are protecting your fellow Americans when they're in distress, when they're in danger, that you would have to worry about this sort of punitive, anarcho, tyranny, lawfare being levied against you.
you because I'm already seeing people say this that the damage is already done that because penny had these charges brought against him that no one is going to step up to protect innocent people if they see them in danger and so we need to make sure that we.
rebuild people's heroism that we can send the message that this is this prosecution was a one off it will not recur so I think we need to look I don't think we should forget what we were talking about while this case was still underway there was a lot of focus on the prosecutor in this case I can't have her name the assistant DA Daphne Rayanne very interesting character absolutely Yes.
So, you know, people resurface. I think actually I think you even posted it via the video where she was gloating that she managed to get a radically reduced sentence for a man who he murdered someone just during a mugging at an ATM. Correct.
All right. Do you have a social media people want to follow or a publication where people can read your work?
Joseph, thank you very much. Thanks for all of your work covering this massive story, and thanks for coming on the program.
We have Jack Posobiec still with us. I know he's been very closely following this UnitedHealth CEO shooting. And Jack, I think we should just go through... Do you see this New York Times set of details that they've been putting out about this? Apparently they found a manifesto on the person of this guy. They caught him at an Altoona McDonald's. Someone saw him and thought, that looks like the guy.
Yeah, and let's get the details of this stop are pretty wild. This is CNN reporting on it. Let's play clip 22.
Apparently he was just going around in the same getup he did the shooting in with all of the gear. It's wild.
Everything about this is incredible. Like, I mean, the fact that his gun is apparently, they're saying it's a ghost gun. Like, he built it himself with parts he either printed or bought online. And the way, yeah, like, designer clothes. He has multiple false IDs. Manifesto-like document. Like, what, does it have to be, like, at least 12 pages?
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My understanding is no, that because they went through the whole trial at that point in legal parlance, Jeopardy had attached. And so it would be double jeopardy to try to bring the charge again at this point, because otherwise, you know, you could say, oh, you know, the trial's not going well. The jury doesn't look good. Dismiss it and refile it. So that would be abusive.
So I think Penny is golden on the New York legal front. The vulnerabilities would be a federal charge against him, which I think very safe to say that won't be happening with President Trump in charge. If anyone tried to bring that, I think we would get them turfed out pretty quickly. The other possibility would be a civil case against him. That's still sadly a possibility. Neely's family.
Now that you say that, you probably already double check.
Yes, absolutely. We'll be watching that. We obviously care that Daniel Penny get his life on track as much as possible. And that goes beyond just beating these unjust charges. But as we like to say, today is a day for celebrating. This is a victory for ordinary Americans. This is a victory for us.
ordinary everyday heroes this is a proof that America both still creates heroes and that America can still honor and defend heroes rather than destroying them so this is a very happy day I think we can all agree this is a day worth celebrating and I'm sure we also maybe we haven't seen the last of Daniel Penny in our movement we'll see I imagine a lot of people will be getting to work on that on that front
As you said, another big win here. We already see it on X. People are saying this is the day BLM dies, the movement that sort of terrorized America that said, if you don't listen to us, we will burn your stores. We will burn your city. We will make your cities unlivable. They demanded that Penny go to prison.
They were just this morning, they were protesting so loudly that on the 13th floor of the courthouse where the jury was deliberating, their chants demanding that Penny go to prison could be heard. There were arguments that that would be grounds for a mistrial all on its own. But if the jury was able to hear those protests, they ignored them. They didn't care.
And BLM's ability to just terrorize the country
Other breaking news, it's just coming out now. They may have arrested the CEO shooter from New York. There's apparently a person much like him who also had a suppressed pistol that they just arrested in Altoona, Pennsylvania. So we may be getting a lot more information on that front. There is a lot going on today. But right now, we want to be joined.
We have a reporter who was covering all the events of this trial. A lot of his coverage went viral. He was giving us a lot of information. Do we have Joe?
Hello, everybody. This is producer Blake here. You probably weren't expecting me. I wasn't expecting me. We have some big breaking news that just hit. If you haven't heard it yet, Marine Corps veteran, national hero Daniel Penny is a free man. We had some sweating last Friday when we learned that the jury was deadlocked on the higher level charge, manslaughter.
There we are. All right. Welcome, Joe. Thank you for coming on. So this is an independent reporter, Joe Brucker. So you were covering the entire trial. So let's get right to the most important thing. What was the moment like when the verdict came in? How did people react?
interruptions during it they had actually quieted down somewhat and so there was some expectations that it would be even louder how about could you see penny himself did he show any emotion you know obviously it was very viral and Rittenhouse started sobbing after the verdict but we couldn't see in New York's case
And you were also reporting on the like the chants, you know, the kind of the threatening protests outside of the courthouse. Could you really hear those? Do you think the jury could hear it 13 stories up?
So my colleague Jack is saying from one of his – someone was saying there were threats from the Neely side inside the courtroom. Did you observe that?
Oh my gosh, that's crazy. So were you speaking with other reporters? Was it a surprise the verdict came in the way it did this quickly after the drop charge last Friday? Was there a sentiment on how the jury was likely to go? Is this outcome expected or surprising?
The state of New York dismissed that charge to try to... trick the jury into some sort of compromise guilty verdict on a lower charge of negligent homicide, and it failed. They came in today, and after just a short time deliberating, we heard they have a unanimous verdict. Myself and a lot of my friends thought, oh no, are they going to convict him? And the answer is no.
Hi there, Charlie. My name is Danielle Bloom. I am a proud pro-American, pro-Israel Jewish American, and it is not lost on me and many of us how you are truly on the front lines supporting Jews and Christians for our Judeo-Christian values for Israel. We thank you every single day. Thank you. My question is, we see how powerful TikTok has become and how you have used that platform to
Unfortunately, myself and many other pro-America, pro-Israel creators continue to get censored and banned. Where do we stand on the TikTok negotiations with the Trump administration and its ability to have better freedom of speech for its citizens?
For sure. Know them well.
There is a distinction between anti-Semitic remarks and inciting violence, and that was the distinction.
Yes, it does. And with people like Joe Rogan, if he could have a survivor of a hostage situation, if he could have someone who served in the IDF, just to bring more balance and nuance to the conversation, everyone would benefit.
I don't disagree. We have the cherry tomato, we have drip irrigation, we don't have good PR.
Okay, so some little backstory here. My stepfather, he passed away very unexpectedly back in January 24. Man, I'm sorry, dude. Yeah, thank you.
Thank you. My mom started going on dates with different men about three months after he had passed. One of those men, which she is now dating... was my stepfather's old friend back in high school. But the real shocker is that he's married, and it's kind of been tough going with that. So how do we set boundaries with that?
So it was kind of, excuse me. So I would kind of hear it from my sister. And my older sister knows my mom the most. And now I'm starting to see my mom in a different light because she has done this habitually in her past with actually my dad. And that's how I got my stepfather.
Yeah.
When did they divorce? So when I was maybe like, I don't know, maybe like six, maybe closer to 10, around that range.
I did not. And again, I see like my mom in a different light because she keeps stuff hidden from me the most instead of my sisters. My sisters, I guess, has seen when they were growing up and in their teenage years that they, um, they seen my mom doing all this stuff and they know, and they know the kind of woman she is. But with me, it was like, I saw her so differently.
And that, um, honestly, I was kind of like a spoiled, spoiled, uh, child. But, um, I see my mom in a different light. How old are you?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, our relationship's good.
For my whole life. Yeah, he knows.
About the past is what you're saying?
Yeah, I agree. You know, there's been times where I've gone with my older sister, and we've talked to her about how we feel, and it's like she kind of brushes it off, and there's been some hurt that she's actually expressed her true feelings like, And I'm just going to sum it up. Like, you know, I don't care what you guys think and I'm just going to do what I want to do.
That's exactly where I am.
Yes, sir. Can you hear me? We can hear you. How are you doing, man? Hey, I'm great. How are you? Great to see you again.
Yes, great to see you. Thank you so much. My question, I think, overlaps with the previous two people. So currently, my business partner and I, we have a $47 monthly coaching program. Und was wir gefunden haben, ist, dass wir das falsche Publikum erwarten. Also wir erwarten Menschen in ihren Zwanzigern, die noch zuhause leben. Und 47 Dollar ist viel für sie.
Also was ich gerne machen würde, ist ein einer Stunde perfektes Webinar für ein höheres Produkt wie 997. And then close them at the end and then do the $47 monthly membership. So my question is, is our perfect webinar too long? And are we going to do the same thing as a challenge, which is promote the live stream for seven days up into that?
Ja, ich lern Krypto und Sales und Marketing mit Clickfunnels und er lern Social Media Influence und Marketing. Wir machen Wealth, Health und Relationships. Wir machen beide Relationships, aber er macht einen 30-Tage-Meal-Plan, einen 7-Tage-Exercise-Plan. So we want to attract 30 and 40 something year old small business owners who have busy lives. They want to stay in shape. They need a meal plan.
They need to continue to market and build their social media presence online. And I think doing a one hour perfect webinar and promoting it would be the right thing.
That is kind of what we're trying to, you know, under the umbrellas of wealth, health and relationships, is it too much? Because I'm getting the feeling that it is probably too much.
Ja, ich musste mich mehr auf das, was du beschrieben hast, konzentrieren. Ich musste das hören. Vielen Dank.
Und ich denke, dass wir einfach in das neue Jahr transitionieren müssen. Wir müssen einfach sagen, okay, wir werden wahrscheinlich einen kurzen Hits nehmen, indem wir diese niedrigere Mitgliedschaft verfolgen. But we need to focus on high-ticket items, high-ticket clients, because we have some good products and some good offers that are worth it.
And I think both of us over the last probably three or four months got into, okay, what do I need to do to pay the bills and stuff like that? And we just need to let go of that thinking.
Okay, exzellent, exzellent, weil ich Grant Cardone benutze und sobald ich Leute auf dem Telefon bekomme, öffne ich sie, also wird das definitiv funktionieren, also ich freue mich, danke dir so viel.
All right, man. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, everybody. Hopefully it helped.
Well, I'm a PhD student, and I work with professors, and we all obviously listen to NPR, so some of them are.
Well, I guess it's rare for Louisiana, but it's not rare for me in Minnesota. I'm guessing the answer is no. Yes! No! Yes!
Oh, my. It's not dry January, because that's been a thing for a while. Right, it is.
Just so they'll, like, ask you the question again.
What do you do there? I'm a plant biology PhD student here at the University of Minnesota, which I was delighted to hear shouted out last week by Rose Matafeo.
Hi, this is Kristen calling from Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Well, I'm a hairstylist and I am an all-star cheerleading coach.
Oh, all the time, but I'm a good coach, so they're pretty safe.
Ring, yes, there you go.
This is Daniel.
I'm calling from Austin, Texas.
Yeah.
Um,
We're 11 and a half months-ish. Yeah.
Gosh, we've done a lot. We've traveled quite a bit.
I travel a little bit for work, so Taylor was able to tag along with some of that, which was fun.
Very fun.
We figured this year wasn't busy enough for us, so we'll buy a house.
Yeah, pretty much.
It's so crazy. Like, I didn't even know you a year ago. I know. I know.
But, anyway.
Yeah, it's great. But like echoing what you said, a lot of it is very easy. For me, I was a little bit nervous because I had been single for a long time before going on the show, and so it was a big jump. I knew I was ready for it. I wouldn't have gone on if I was not ready for it.
But there are little things that you can't really plan for day to day, just things that are different from when you were single to now you're married and it's such a quick time. Putting the toilet seat down. Yeah, I learned that really quick. I don't know. Even little things like just,
you know my schedule of like scheduling what my day or week is going to look like where before it was like this is what I want to do so I'm going to go do it and I don't have to ask anybody or like talk to anybody about it and now it's like your schedule is more important than what I'm doing and like I want to make sure that I'm working around you and like we do it together and so you know it's not just me like hey I'm going to go golfing with the guys every day it's like hey I'm going to maybe go golfing once a week and then maybe maybe
No, it's just stuff like that, though. But it's things that, you know, when you're married, you put your partner ahead of you. And, like, it's just waking up every day and doing that because it's worth it.
Yeah, I mean, it's interesting going through the Love is Blind experiment because I feel like typically it'd be like a physical appearance type answer, but it doesn't matter. That's not why we're there. I feel like we really were intentional in the pods about...
talking about the important things absolutely like christmas exactly like christmas and then i knew we were good i just looked at your instagram i was like oh you were really committed to that bit yeah it's a thing wow the one with the flower everywhere yeah that so that was at my parents house in their kitchen the day before they hosted like 30 people for christmas so my dad was like let me make a mess my dad was not happy about that to say the least but
Sorry, dad. It was worth it. It had to be done.
You know, I enjoy talking about the family stuff, just family dynamic like right now, but also what you want out of a family for the future because that's a big thing for me and I knew it was a big thing for you too. And so I was looking forward to having that conversation with you, whereas I wasn't necessarily looking forward to having that conversation with the other girls.
But it's because I could just see...
I mean, I wish we could have, it seems like. Everybody in Minneapolis knows someone who knows someone. Everybody.
Yeah. And then this.
Pretty much it.
Yeah, we just had to be careful if we were out in public. Just no PDA. Dumb. No, I mean, we wore our rings. We obviously moved in together, but we were careful. Yeah.
Yeah, I think it was important just to go through the whole experiment and do it, you know, with like keeping the integrity of what it is and trying to date other people and see if, you know, there's something there. So that at the end of the day, you know, I pick you and, you know, you pick me and you know that I tried it with other girls and it just wasn't there. Yeah.
So yeah. And I'm not 6'5", so I looked through the door, and I could see your shadow, and I'm like, oh, no. Like, here we go. Like, this is what it's all about.
Yeah, just threw him at your shoulder.
No. We didn't. We didn't talk anything physical. Yeah, we didn't talk about any physical things.
We really tried to not. The only thing I thought, I thought you had really blonde hair. Okay. Okay, I don't. Okay, wrong. Is that a blonde joke? Yeah, no. No, we didn't talk anything about the physical.
I don't know if I've had a specific type. It's just if I'm attracted to them. Like, you're beautiful. So it's like, yeah, you're for sure my type. Like, when the doors open, I couldn't. I probably would look like an idiot because I'm just like. You were cheesing. So cute. I couldn't stop.
Yeah, I mean, every dating app has the age range and the height range, which is, like, I mean, I get it. And I talked about, like, If there's a girl out there who needs someone or prefers someone who's six feet, then that's not my person anyways. But yeah, it's a very real thing.
And preferences for me, whether it's age or whatever, with the superficial part of the dating these days, it's so easy just to say like, okay, well, if you're over 30, I'll just focus on this because there are a lot of girls on the dating apps that are what my preference would be in that area. Yeah. And so, yeah, it would have for sure kept me from meeting Taylor, you know, which is just crazy.
Do not matter.
Give him a chance.
Give him a chance, ladies. Might be worth it.
Yeah. If I saw you out, I would have been like, wow, she's beautiful. But then I would have been like, she probably isn't into me because girls care about height. So I don't know if I would have gone up to you.
It's crazy, though, because that is something where even if I just was on a dating app and saw, you know, a girl and I was like, oh, she's older than me. It was just like an immediate like, ah, I'll just, you know, look for someone my age. Yeah. Yeah. Nah. You just wouldn't even give it a chance.
And so how cool is, you know, this type of experiment where it's like that is not the most important thing. Yeah.
Just classic Minnesota social media of like mutual friends. It's so tiny. You probably come across.
you felt the way that you did. And I'm just, I'm thankful that you were okay having a conversation about it instead of just being like, nope, done, I'm going home. And so, you know, understanding why we were both there, like it makes sense. If you thought, if I thought someone knew what I looked like the whole time, someone that I fell in love with, that I got engaged to, it'd be devastating.
So it's, you know, it was just me in the moment trying to put myself in your shoes a bit and just kind of understand where you were coming from.
Well, it just gave us a glimpse kind of into how we work through things together.
And like I think you said earlier, we didn't really have much drama. So going into a marriage, you know, it might have been a little bit tough to be like, oh, we don't know how we deal with conflict together. Like there will be conflict in a marriage. How are we going to do it? And so in a weird way, it was almost nice being able to look back and being like, okay, we had this come up.
We worked through it and we grew stronger because of it. Now we know if something comes up in the future, you know, we're going to be just fine.
I just don't care.
People are so dumb. They really are. People say whatever they want, and it's like you're probably so miserable in your own life, and you're jealous and insecure and all the things.
Don't worry. It's not going to stop.
Yeah, I think while we were filming, we were like, well, it's going to be us and probably Devin and Virginia.
I think we were hopeful for the other couples. I think we could just see it. Whether we were comparing our relationship to the other ones and being like, I just don't.
Yeah, for whatever reason. Yeah.
So it's like either way. Yeah. A lot of people wanted more, uh, more pod time. And then now they're like, ah, wait, no, we don't want any more pod. Like there's too much. And so it's just, there's, there's a, you know, it's a lose, a lose almost. But yeah, it was, there were times where it felt it was dragging on a bit.
Oh, yeah. I know. I know. You're like, that's crazy. Yeah.
You're probably like, where was this during my season?
That's kind of classic Midwest. Just, like, say what you need to say to... get by without ruffling too many feathers.
It'll be interesting if they do like an East Coast, you know, then it might be a little bit more. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So we knew it was going to be heated. Oh, we were chilling. Yeah, it was nice. We said our piece and then just kind of. I mean, it was tough at times to listen to it all because we know these people, but we didn't really have to chime in very much.
It was definitely tough. I mean, I think people said what they needed to say. I will say that I'm probably closer with Joey... Out of the guys that were there, probably I'm closest with Joey, but I've spent time with all of them. I'm really proud of how Dave handled the reunion. I think he took accountability for a lot, which he needed to do.
I think he has a lot of growing to do, and I think he's grown a lot this year just watching him. So I just talked to him after and was like, dude, I commend you for how you handled it. I hope that he can take some of that stuff into his future.
It was tough for Dave because he got... When we were in Honduras and we got our phones back and, you know, you're expecting to go back into the real world and kind of, like, ease into it. And, like, we knew it's not going to be easy. We know it's not going to be easy, but... word had already gotten out because it's Minnesota.
Word had already gotten out about all of this stuff about Dave and Lauren and like his friends and his sister and his family, this guy, like everybody knew everything before Dave even knew anything. So one, we were coming back into the real world, which is tough in itself. And then also he was getting all of that piled on top of him, which isn't an excuse to necessarily act the way that he did.
But yeah, I tried to just understand a little bit, and I know it was a lot for him. I tried to give advice, but he has long-term friends and family that he would take advice from me. He only met me for a couple of weeks, but I also tried to understand where he was coming from, but there were definitely some things I think that he knows that he did that he wishes he could do differently.
I think he's learned a lot.
Joey sucks. Just kidding. I love Joey. I don't feel personally that I need to clear anything up about us. I mean, unless you feel like you need to.
I think for me, I had always hoped that certain values were instilled in me from my parents and just my upbringing. I think this show gave me the opportunity to test that and prove to myself that I am a patient person. I can be a loving person. Because I wasn't always necessarily that way. I didn't have a lot of relationships. I never really had the chance to...
give the love that I have to someone that I truly care about um and so I you know I'm just so thankful for the opportunity and um yeah I just I can't believe that it ended this way for us and maybe started this way for like we have so much to look forward to um Yeah, I'm really glad that I had the chance to just give my all.
He's so happy. I love when you talk nice about me.
I just love you so much. I don't know. I'm the luckiest guy. I've said it a billion times. I just can't believe it. Luckiest guy in the world.
you guys are proof that if you put in the work and you ask the tough questions and you really dive deep and like open up fully that it can work yeah absolutely I think that's almost the only way that it works is if you yeah if you go there and commit to the process you have to do it full-hearted like don't hold back just be open and just go for it yeah
It says Taco B. Well, inner lip tattoos fade really quickly.
I don't think we have.
So the girls wanted to get a tattoo for season eight.
But I was like, oh, that's cool. I'll be involved in it. The girls are doing it, but I'll write it.
I do, I don't have the lip tattoo yet. And I can't believe that that was such a big deal. I kind of forgot about it and then they included it. I did get a tattoo, I have one here of coordinates of like my family's cabin but I wanted to get something for Taylor.
My favorite part of Taylor physically is her eyes and it's the first thing I noticed when the doors opened and so I got a tattoo of her eyes on my chest.
Yeah. Do you want to see? Can I? Is that weird?
Does it look like her eyes?
I know.
Yeah. No, there's definitely plans at some point. I feel like I have to get the lip tattoo at some point. I just don't know exactly what it's – I don't know if it's going to be Taco Bell or if it's going to be – Chipotle maybe. Chipotle. I do love Chipotle. Something that I like. So stay tuned.
Sorry, Ollie.
Something tatted. What? Sorry, brother.
You got to do it. You do it. Do you even like me?
Yeah.