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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You go to the suburbs where there's a lot of rich, retired women. Okay, name them. Name them. Hawthorne is good.
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Yes. I get things taken up because I am short, even though I don't seem short. No one believes it. You get tall girl energy. I know. I have a six foot personality apparently. You do. But I am five foot two, three.
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Chapter 2: What are Cait Emma Burke's morning rituals for success?
This is a new series and today we are talking to the wonderful Kate Emma Burke. In these episodes, you guys know we want to know what our guests are beyond what they do in their work days, as well as a little insight into their interesting jobs. And Kate, I sit next to you, so I know you have an interesting job because I see your screen and it's much more interesting than mine.
I do want to give a little bit of a highlight reel about who you are. I'm not sure our entire community will be familiar with you beyond being our senior podcast producer on Stylish. You have a very, very impressive run sheet in terms of your past work. I will say you were the former editor of Fashion Journal and you're a freelance writer, editor and copywriter.
As a freelancer, you've written for some really prolific magazines, including Harper's Bazaar, Cosmopolitan, IG Magazine, Esquire. Guys, this list is long. Let me keep going. Frankie Magazine, Body and Soul, and more. That is such a serious run, Chi. Kate, welcome. I'm so excited to have you today. How are you feeling?
I'm feeling good. That was such a good guess up. I feel amazing.
Okay, that's what I want. I want everyone to feel gassed up and G'd up when they're sitting behind the mic. Let's get straight into it with a rec. You know we love a rec. That's stylish. And if you haven't listened to our main roster episodes before, we actually have a weekly rec that we call The Swap. Kate, you've seen many a swaps. It's now your time behind the mic.
What's your swap for this week?
Okay. It was hard to choose because when you've seen so many good swaps, you're like, the stakes are high. You've got to think of something actually useful and that people are going to love. I... want to recommend or swap in, Never Warns, a substack. I know that you're a substack. Huge substack. Yeah. It's by Liana Sedenstein. She's a writer for the New York Times.
She used to be like Vogue's style editor, style writer. And she just writes incredible pieces, like deep dives into like archival fashion and does these amazing events in New York where celebrities come and sell their pre-loved clothes. She's just got like the most, I don't know, like the funniest, smartest fashion writing around right now.
What would you say are her three words when it comes to like her style? Ooh. Or maybe even one of the three is too hard. Eclectic. Okay, cool. Yeah. Where I want to kick off is really focusing on the morning rituals and the morning routine. Starting every day from 7am, everybody's first decision of the day is very important.
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Chapter 3: What role does manifestation play in Cait's daily routine?
That looks so professional. I'm going to do a little pour. Oh, my gosh. Yum. Are you going to do some art, latte art? It's not a latte.
No.
My skill set ends here. Okay, Kate, and there is your sweet vanilla mocha. Hot. Nice and hot. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much. Enjoy. Taste test. Quick.
Wow. That is so good. I love it. The vanilla is really nice. Yum. And it's subtle. It's not like overpowering. Sometimes it's too much, but that's like the perfect balance.
There we go. Okay. Ready to go. So you are the senior producer at Shameless Media. And I do want to talk about career for a little bit. You're also an editor and a writer, as I said up top, really impressive run sheet. What has been your North Star for you in your career?
I think curiosity. Oh, I love that. She's practical. I'm a curious girl.
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Chapter 4: How does Cait Emma Burke choose her outfits for the day?
I've always been curious. I've always wanted to know more about, you know, the topics that I'm naturally interested in. And that just so happens to be like fashion, beauty, lifestyle, actually a lot of stuff though. Like I can spend an hour on Wikipedia. I can dive deep into like the weirdest little niche topics. So following my curiosity has really shaped my career, I would say. Yeah.
And being a freelance writer, a lot of the time you do have to pitch for work. How do you approach that process for pitching? Because I know there will be a lot of listeners out there who maybe are a little bit nervous. Being able to share your expertise and your tips on that would be really helpful.
Yeah. So you need to really think, it depends on who you're pitching to, but if you're pitching to a big mainstream publication... You need to sort of think about what's happening in the news cycle right now that you can anchor that story in. So, for example, maybe you're doing something about, I don't know, like dating, but then you want to like see what's happening in the news.
Is there something about dating that's really big right now? Maybe people are talking a lot about dating. how they hate dating apps or whatever it might be. Anchor it in that and show that you've done your research, that you know it's a conversation that's happening right now. You want a pitch to be really short and snappy. You don't want to be writing a whole essay. That's not the point.
You're not giving them the full story in the email. You want to package it up really nicely, couple of sentences, show why you're doing the story and why it's going to benefit the publication and
And then you want to have like a, I always do a sort of faux headline or a sample headline because it really helps an editor if they can see like, okay, this is how it could be packaged up and that headline is really snappy or engaging or would make me want to click in. You're more likely to get your pitch over the line when you do that.
And my final little tip is if you know that you're going to talk to experts, get them in the pitch as well. And, you know, say I want to talk to this expert. I want to talk to this person. Then they can really clearly see how the story is going to take shape.
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No, it's so helpful. Also really applicable as well when you're writing CVs and resumes, I'm finding in a world of AI, a lot of the tips that you just gave can also be applied to that. You'd mentioned writing about dating. Yeah. This has been a huge part of your career and your freelance writing journey. Can you tell us about how you started writing about dating culture? Oh, why?
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Chapter 5: What tips does Cait Emma Burke have for finding pre-loved fashion?
how much harder I maybe made certain moments of my life when they could have been a little bit easier if I'd just been kinder and softer to myself. So I'm trying in my 30s to like treat myself more as like my own best friend and yeah, be kinder, which is where the affirmations come in and yeah, be softer and kinder to myself. I love that.
And I think everyone could do with a little bit more of that in their life. Everyone be kind to yourself. Love yourself. Love yourself, guys. Love yourself. All right. I just want to squeeze one more in. You know, we love a hot take. It's stylish. Can I get you to give us your hot take?
My hot take is that we all need way less clothes than we currently have. We need like, I reckon like 70, 60% less. Call it way back. You're making your life harder having a wardrobe that's bursting at the seams and too many clothes when you get ready in the morning. True style and understanding your style is knowing that you don't need more and more and more clothes or more and more accessories.
It's making do with what you have. The other arm of this hot take is you do not need to buy new things for every event. I completely agree with that. And it's good to like, I call it in my friend group, we have like a clothing trust kind of where. Shop your friend's wardrobe. Someone will have a wedding and it'll be like, hey, girls, like who's got a dress for me?
And that's a great way to not, you don't have to add to your wardrobe, but you're getting a new cut, silhouette, dress or color or like you're getting something in your wardrobe that feels new without having to overstuff your wardrobe and add to what you've got.
There are some friends in my group that I wouldn't let borrow my stuff, but there are some that I would. So I love that rule. You've got to be careful. I'm respectful. Yeah. Thank you so much, Kate. It's been so lovely chatting with you. This is our third and final episode of the What Else series in partnership with Nespresso.
We're so lucky to have you all and we'll be back in your ears next Wednesday. Thanks so much, guys.
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