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Surrounded

20 Pro-Palestine Protestors vs Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib

08 Jun 2025

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Ahmed Alkhatib steps into the circle, challenging 20 Pro-Palestine protestors with four divisive claims: October 7th was a disaster that opened the worst chapter in Palestinian history, armed resistance will get Palestinians nowhere, angry protests in the West are not helpful, and being pro-Palestine necessitates accepting a free Palestine side by side next to Israel. Will his arguments hold, or will the group shut him down? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I do not agree that we should find common ground with people who support a genocide. That's unacceptable. You make peace with your enemies not with your friends. No, we do not make peace with people who are murdering children.

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In Jubilee Media, this is Surrounded, where one brave soul faces a room full of disagreeers. Today's guest is Ahmed Al-Hatib. He's the head of Realign for Palestine and a peace activist, and he will be debating 25 pro-Palestine protesters. Ahmed will debate them one-on-one until they're voted out by their peers and replaced by someone new. Let's get into it.

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My first claim is that October 7th was an abhorrent disaster that unleashed the worst catastrophe in the Palestinian people's history.

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So, worst catastrophe. I think that you're using specific words for specific reasons. The Nakba catastrophe, right? I want to offer my condolences. I believe that 33 members of your family were exterminated by the Zionist entity. So my question is, how is this worse than what initiated everything, which was the Nakba in 1948?

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My grandparents were pushed out in 1948 where 700,000 Palestinians were unfortunately forced to leave their homes and in some cases had no choice but to leave their homes. Since October 7th, over 2.1 million Palestinian people have had to leave their homes due to the catastrophe that Hamas's actions unleashed by attacking Israeli communities on October 7th.

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Quantitatively and qualitatively, Hamas's actions have triggered one of the worst catastrophes in the Palestinian people's history, whereby 50,000 Palestinians would still be alive had Hamas simply kept its soldiers at home on October 7th, including family members of my own. So by that logic, if Zionists wouldn't have colonized Palestine, then none of this would have began to begin with, right?

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As a Palestinian who grew up in the Gaza Strip, what I can tell you is that... Who put you there? The Gaza Strip had immense potential to be the pride and joy of the Palestinian people, to prove that we are absolutely capable of having a functional state of our own that can rebuild our society, rebuild our heritage, reclaim our presence on the land.

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The entirety of the land or just... Because I believe your parents were in a refugee camp, right? They were forced into that.

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There are nuances and complexities in history. Who put them there? Nuances and complexities in history. That's a very objective thing. Who put them there? The scientists, right? You, unfortunately, are not willing to listen to some of the nuances and the complexities. Right.

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