John Regalado sits down with Cade, Zina and Danny, to revisit the most heated moments of their Surrounded debate with Jordan Peterson. They discuss their debate tactics as well as their personal backstories as atheists. Follow our YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/@jubilee Follow Cade:youtube.com/@GayExTradFollow Zina:tiktok.com/@zinaaweenaaFollow Danny:youtube.com/@DannyPhilTalk Follow John Regalado:https://x.com/odalager_jhttps://www.youtube.com/@j_regalado Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I was aggressive, absolutely, but I didn't realize, oh, I'm coming across as unhinged.
From Jubilee Media, this is the Surrounded Podcast. I'm John Regalado, and we've got another follow-up episode for you digging into last week's Jordan Peterson episode. Obviously, we would have loved to have Jordan Peterson on the pod. He's very busy and declined the invitation. We would have him on at any point in the future.
But we do have three of the people that he debated, Cade, Danny, and Zena. And they each had three very different experiences. Would you call yourself a Christian? And if not, why not? Well, I would say in the deepest sense, yes. Hey Cade, nice to meet you. Could you just kind of introduce yourself?
My name is Cade. I do a lot of yapping on the internet related to religion, queer identity, philosophy, and just about everything in between. My background is that I grew up in the liberal Western suburbs of Minneapolis, kind of a open and affirming environment. And I knew that I was gay from a young age, but was never comfortable with it. And so went deep down the religious rabbit hole.
Um, and was studying to become a Catholic priest. And so I was at church two to three times every single day was going to commit the rest of my life to being a cloistered monastic monk. Um, yeah, all the way into the religion, read a ton of Peterson.
And then two years ago I started realizing like, wait, the church is asking like a huge thing from me, which is to be celibate for the rest of my life. I should probably have good evidence to back that up.
It's so great to hear your backstory because, you know, in this format, I only get a small slice of who you are. You mentioned you had read Peterson before. So you had a relationship with his writings and his ideas prior to even encountering him.
I originally heard of Peterson back in like the 2015, 2016 era. I was very conservative at the time. And he kind of rose to prominence with the like debating feminist type of interviews, the Kathy Newman interview, etc. Why should your right to freedom of speech trump a trans person's right not to be offended? Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
But then I rediscovered Peterson kind of on my way out of religion. I read his original book from the 90s, which is just called Maps of Meaning. And it's one of the books that actually helped me deconstruct and kind of turned me into an atheist because what he does in that book is essentially explains all of the benefits of religion from a psychological and sociological and historic lens.
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