Talk Tantra to Me with Leola
Episodes
Safer Sex Convos, episode 109
27 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola dives into SPREAD, a conversation structure to use before having any new intimate or sexual partner. In this episode, Leola walks ...
The Naked Truth Guided Practice with Justin Gottlieb, episode 108
20 Jan 2023
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Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, special guest Justin Gottlieb leads listeners through a discussion and guided practice surrounding...
4 Types of Sex, episode 107
13 Jan 2023
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Send us a textLeola shares the four types of sex – reproductive, recreational, restorative and transformational – from a tantric perspective and w...
Overcoming Relationship Anxiety with Natalie Kennedy, episode 106
06 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Natalie Kennedy, relationship anxiety coach and meditation teacher. In this episode, Natalie dives into her own relatab...
Q & A with Leola, episode 105
30 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola invites listeners and followers to ask their burning questions about sacred sexuality, high-vibe relating, and more! She answers...
Men’s Work & Feminine Testing with Wayne Barkus, episode 104
23 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Wayne Barkus, intimacy coach, somatic release practitioner, and Sacred Sons facilitator. Wayne shares his personal tran...
Discovering Your Golden Shadow, episode 103
16 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola invites the listeners to consider and explore their golden shadows. A golden shadow is a gift that is hidden or not shared due to ...
Be Your Own Muse with Jaqueline Michelle, episode 102
09 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Jaqueline Michelle, Self Love + Embodiment Coach, Shibari Practitioner and Sensualist. Leola and Jaqueline discuss the ...
Monogamish, episode 101
03 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola dives into the relating style called Monogamish, which is a relating style that leaves space for play outside of a primary partner...
How I Became a Tantrika with my BFF, Chloe with Chloe & Leola, episode 100
26 Nov 2022
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Send us a textLeola chats with her BFF Chloe who she has known for over 7 years. Chloe is a life coach, adventure-seeker, & writer, and has been t...
Creating a Tantric Lifestyle & Community with ScottieO, episode 99
18 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with ScottieO, founder of Ecstatic Hearts, internationally renowned tantra teacher, best selling author, and the co-founder ...
High Vibe Relating Part 2 with Andrew & Leola, episode 98
11 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn part two of this episode, Leola continues talking with Andrew, her beloved and partner. Leola and Andrew dive deeper into the beginni...
High Vibe Relating Part 1 with Andrew & Leola, episode 97
04 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn part one of this episode, Leola chats with Andrew, her beloved and partner. Leola and Andrew each share their personal journeys of sp...
How to Communicate Desires & Uphold Boundaries, episode 96
21 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola empowers listeners to take responsibility for their happiness, pleasure, and sex life. She claims, "It's your fault you&...
Slutty Girl Probs with Lorrae Jo, episode 95
13 Oct 2022
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Send us a textLeola chats with Lorrae Jo, Pleasure Alchemist, Erotic Embodiment Coach, and Founder of Slutty Girl Problems. Lorrae shares her journey ...
Mother-Daughter Q&A on Love & Sex, episode 94
07 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn a very vulnerable episode, Leola interviews her Mom for the podcast. They discuss her sex education in the 70s in the midwest, her fi...
Pushing Your Edges, episode 93
30 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola shares her perspective of edges vs. boundaries. She defines and differentiates them, illustrating with her personal experience and...
Energy Medicine & Eros with Dr. Isabel Meijering, episode 92
22 Sep 2022
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Send us a textLeola chats with Dr. Isabel Meijering, who has studied traditional Chinese Medicine as an acupuncturist and herbalist. Leola presents em...
Cultivating Polarity & Embodied Relating with Allan Mcgrath Isbell, episode 91
16 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Allan McGrath Isbell, Masculinity & Polarity Mentor. Allan describes qualities of mature masculine men. He shares h...
Yoni Worship, episode 90
09 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola shares the expansive nature of yoni worship. Yoni is the Sanskrit word for Vagina. It directly translates to “temple” or “ho...
Authentic Tantra & Cultural Appreciation with Henika Patel, episode 89
02 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Henika Patel, founder of The School of Sensual Arts. Henika illustrates the difference between sensuality and sexuality...
Sex Magic Guided Meditation, episode 88
26 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola reviews the principles of Sex Magic, supported by The Law of Attraction. This energetic principle relies on the belief that all th...
Vulnerability & the Embodied Man with Aaron Kleinerman, episode 87
19 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Aaron Kleinerman, Transformational Tantra Coach, Speaker, and Bestselling Author of The Embodied Man. Aaron explains ...
Conscious Celibacy, episode 86
12 Aug 2022
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Send us a textLeola shares her recent experiment of conscious celibacy, divulging her intuitive guidance on abstaining from intercourse for one moon c...
Compatibility & The Sacred Beloved with Aurika Valan, episode 85
05 Aug 2022
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Send us a textLeola chats with Aurika Valan, Intimacy and Sacred Union Coach. Aurika shares her process for determining true compatibility of the se...
Why Attend a Tantra Retreat w/ Justin Gottlieb, episode 84
26 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Justin Gottlieb, Tantra Coach and co-facilitator of the Tantra Love Retreat. Justin and Leola discuss the wealth of gro...
Divine Feminine Guided Meditation, episode 83
22 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola reviews the principles of feminine energy, differentiating between unhealed (toxic or immature) qualities and healed (divine or ma...
Release the "Good Girl" & Heal the Sister Wound with Sophia Le Page, episode 82
15 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Sophia Le Page, Feminine Embodiment Leadership Coach. Leola and Sophia share what it means to be truly embodied and ali...
Deepthroating as a Spiritual Practice, episode 81
08 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola invites this listeners to consider their most taboo and/or primal desires as their most sacred, given a conscious approach and int...
Big Pussy Energy with Brittini Burton, episode 80
01 Jul 2022
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Send us a textLeola chats with Brittini Burton, Women's Feminine Empowerment Coach. Leola and Brittini share a very playful conversation on ownin...
Pleasure Priestess, Holy Whore, & Sacred Prostitute, episode 79
24 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola shares her perspective on sex work as a sacred path honoring the healing and expansive nature of erotic energy and intimacy. She p...
Ending Fear-Based Gynecology with Denell Barbara Randall, episode 78
17 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Denell Barbara Randall, Women's Integrative Health Coach. Leola and Denell discuss empowering pelvic care and the ...
Are You Bisensual? episode 77
03 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola explains the little-known attraction orientation known as bisensuality. She explains bisensuality as having the desire for non-sex...
Womb Wellness & the Art of Receiving with Taraney Nicole, episode 76
27 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Taraney Nicole, womb priestess, healer, and doula. Leola and Taraney discuss how to support our wombs energetically and...
Third Eye Chakra Guided Meditation, episode 75
20 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola reviews the principles of the third eye chakra - the sixth of our seven primary energetic centers. She shares how imbalances in th...
Solo Polyamory: Trailblazing Dating & Relating with Frank Mondeose, episode 74
13 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Frank Mondeose, contemporary voice on love, eros, and modern relating... also known as The Spiritual Playboy. Leola and...
7 Steps to Create Your Own Tantra Date Night, episode 73
06 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola shares her tried and true recipe for creating tantric bliss - for both singles AND couples. Prioritizing presence and pleasure is ...
Tantra Reading with Akashic Resources, episode 72
30 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Brian and Golbahar Kraichely, founders of Akashic Resources. The couple acts as a duo, Brian as the conductor and Golba...
Naked Soul Guided Meditation, episode 71
22 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola shares a meditation with the intention to connect the listener to the pureness of their being. This meditation uses visualization ...
Jesus Loves Sex Workers with Daniel Saynt, episode 70
15 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Daniel Saynt, artist, sex prophet, and founder of NSFW: a dating club for the adventurous. Daniel and Leola discuss the...
Adornment as a Spiritual Practice with Oorja, episode 69
08 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola chats with Oorja, founder of Revive Style. Oorja is a sustainable fashion designer and blogger based in Mumbai, India. Leola and O...
Soul Assignments & Initiations, episode 68
01 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textLeola gets personal, sharing recent challenging and traumatic experiences. She offers her perspective of these events as "soul assi...
Q&A with Leola - High Vibe Relating, Divine Feminine, Jealousy, & More!
25 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola invites listeners and followers to ask their burning questions about sacred sexuality, spiri...
Busting Sacred Sex & Intimacy Myths with Amy, episode 66
18 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Amy, founder of Temple of the Feminine. Amy coaches women on sexual healing and a...
Sexy Consent Skills & Boundaries with Valentin, episode 65
11 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Valentin, Intimacy and Self-Compassion Coach. Leola and Valentin discuss the im...
Sacral Chakra Guided Meditation, episode 64
04 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola reviews the principles of the sacral chakra - the second of our seven primary energetic cent...
Ancestral Healing & Womb Wisdom with Torie Feldman, episode 63
25 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Torie Feldman, founder of Sacred Ancestry, ancestral healing guide, and legacy me...
Conscious Uncoupling, episode 62
18 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares a tantric perspective of breaking up. She walks the listener through Katherine Woodwa...
The Orgasm Gap with Dr. Laurie Mintz, episode 61
04 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Dr. Laurie Mintz, licensed psychologist, certified sex therapist, professor, and ...
Conscious Consumption: Alcohol & Plant Medicine, episode 60
28 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares a tantric perspective of consuming alcohol, drugs, and plant medicines. She explains ...
Body Positivity for Pleasure & Presence with Ekaterina, episode 59
21 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Ekaterina, sexuality coach and body positive mentor. Leola and Ekaterina discuss ...
Conflict Resolution in Fulfilling Relationships with Alexa Bowditch, episode 58
14 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Alexa Bowditch, aka That Sex Chick. Alexa is a Sex Coach and business mentor for ...
Create A Life You Love, episode 57
05 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares the recording of a live Masterclass on Creating a Life You Love! She asserts the impo...
Inner Critic Guided Meditation, episode 56
01 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola introduces a new perspective of addressing the inner critic. She reminds the listener that t...
Alchemize Pain Into Purpose, episode 55
23 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares her process in alchemizing pain into purpose. She rewrites "inconveniences"...
How to Support Your Partner in Healing from Sexual Trauma with Isabella, episode 54
17 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Isabella, Professional Dancer, author, and founder of She is Powerful - an organi...
Sexuality as a Spectrum & All Things Magic with Mystic Dylan, episode 53
10 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Mystic Dylan, Celebrity Witch, Bestselling Author and Owner of the Olde World Emp...
Divine Masculine Guided Meditation, episode 52
03 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola reviews the principles of masculine energy, differentiating between unhealed (toxic or immat...
The Unhealed Masculine with Justin Gottlieb, episode 51
26 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Justin Gottlieb, Sexual Freedom Coach, Founder of Tantra Love Coach, and Tantric ...
Q&A with Leola - Open Relating, Prostate Play, Spiritual Awakenings, & More! episode 50
19 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola invites listeners and followers to ask their burning questions about sacred sexuality, spiri...
Abortion as a Spiritual Experience with Rowan & Grace, episode 49
12 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Rowan & Grace, friends and fellow fairies. Rowan and Grace share their storie...
How to Manifest Your Ideal Lover or Partner, episode 48
04 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares her process in calling in a lover or life partner. She emphasizes the importance on g...
Find Your Tribe & Meme Artistry with James McCrae, episode 47
29 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with James McCrae, voice behind @wordsarevibrations and author of Shit Your Ego Says. ...
Embody Your Highest Self Guided Meditation, episode 46
22 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola reviews the principles of the crown chakra - the seventh of our seven primary energetic cent...
My Shaman Sexually Assaulted Me with Paige, episode 45
15 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with friend and fellow student of tantra, Paige. They discuss the rampant manipulation...
My Tantra Teacher Sexually Abused Me, episode 44
08 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares her #metoo story in the space of sexual healing. With vulnerability, Leola opens up a...
Breathwork for Presence & Pleasure with Stevie Wright, episode 43
01 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Stevie Wright, Self Love Coach & Breathwork Facilitator. Stevie shares the pr...
Ignite Your Purpose Solar Plexus Meditation, episode 42
24 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola reviews the principles of the solar plexus chakra - the third of our seven primary energetic...
The World is Waiting for Your Light with Amber Valdez, episode 41
17 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Amber Valdez, Spiritual Guide and Business mentor. Amber shares what it means to ...
Can Sexual Energy Be Depleted or Wasted? episode 40
10 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola addresses the abundant and regenerative nature of life-force energy. She challenges the beli...
Dating with Insecurities with Christopher David Mitchell, episode 39
03 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Christopher David Mitchell, Transformation Coach. Christopher shares his near dea...
Reclaiming the Dark Feminine with Lilith of Oz, episode 38
27 Aug 2021
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Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Lilith of Oz, Magnetism Magician & Glamour Coach. Leola and Lilith discuss th...
Cord Cutting Guided Meditation, episode 37
20 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares the benefits of cord cutting. This energetic visualization meditation releases draini...
Why Sex Dies in Longterm Relationships & How to Keep Libido Alive with Irene Fehr, episode 36
06 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Irene Fehr, Sex and Intimacy Coach. Leola and Irene chat about sex and intimacy e...
Q&A with Leola - Self Pleasure, Conscious Porn, Casual Sex & More! episode 35
30 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola invites listeners and followers to ask their burning questions about sacred sexuality, spiri...
Why Work With A Tantric Practitioner with Justin Gottlieb, episode 34
23 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Justin Gottlieb, Sexual Freedom Coach, Founder of Tantra Love Coach, and Tantric ...
Abundance Mindset & the Frequency of Money, episode 33
16 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola shares a tantric perspective of manifesting abundance. She explains that money is inherently...
Interdimensional Intimacy & Starseed Sex with Elizabeth April, episode 32
09 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Elizabeth April, paradigm shifter, truth seeker, and channeler of the Galactic Fe...
Heart Chakra Meditation & Inner Child Visualization, episode 31
03 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola reviews the principles of the heart chakra - the fourth of our seven primary energetic cente...
Astrology as a Tool for Expansion & Empowerment with Grace McGrade, episode 30
25 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola chats with Grace McGrade, astrologer and priestess. She shares the science of astrology, off...
The Magic of the Menstrual Cycle: Moon Bleed to Ovulation, episode 29
19 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola explains the 4 stages of the menstrual cycle from a physical, emotional, and spiritual persp...
An Holistic & Herbal Perspective of Sexual Wellness with Page, episode 28
11 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola and Page discuss herbal and holistic methods for sexual wellness. As a Naturopathic Coach, P...
Sacred Sexuality & Pleasure Positive Affirmation Meditation, episode 27
04 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola empowers the listener with awareness of limiting beliefs around sexuality. She guides the li...
Turned On By Life & The Higher Heart with Brenden Durell, episode 26
29 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola and Brenden Durell discuss the potential to live in such an expansive state that you feel tu...
Sexual Shadow Work, episode 25
22 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola explains the importance of Sexual Shadow Work. Our shadow is composed of our parts of oursel...
Cultivating Masculine & Feminine Polarity with Madelyn Moon, episode 24
14 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola discusses the foundations of masculine and feminine energy with Madelyn Moon, Feminine Embod...
Highest Truth Throat Chakra Guided Meditation, episode 23
08 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola reviews the principles of the throat chakra - the fifth of our seven primary energetic cente...
Creating Meditative Porn with Kate Marley, episode 22
01 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola discusses radically accepting sexuality with Kate Marley, artistic erotic content creator an...
Conscious Communication & Radical Honesty, episode 21
23 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"Your highest truth is synonymous with your highest love. We're often afraid to tell the truth to our partner. You have to tru...
Yoni Massage, Pregnancy, Conscious Conception, & Miscarriage with Aila Rose, episode 20
16 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"Miscarriage is so common, but nobody talks about it. In that first pregnancy, I was forced to deal with so many emotional remnants...
Q&A with Leola - Dating Advice, Twin Flames, Tantra Massage & More! episode 19
10 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola invites listeners and followers to ask their burning questions about sacred sexuality, spiri...
Boost Your Business & Align with Your Purpose Using Erotic Energy with Dave Fontaine, episode 18
26 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"When you choose to trust, despite fear and you make an empowered decision, you are shattering illusions. You're reaching high...
Grounding Root Chakra Guided Meditation, episode 17
21 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a textIn this episode of Talk Tantra to Me, Leola reviews the principles of the root chakra - the first of our seven primary energetic centers...
Conscious Kink & BDSM for Healing with Lina Dune, episode 16
12 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"We're exploring the deepest realms of the human experience in a safe way. It's actually a very empowering place. There a...
Tantra 101: New World Intimacy Through Old World Modalities, episode 15
05 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"Tantra is collection of moments and modalities woven together to create an expansive soul. It’s a lifestyle rooted in ascension....
Non-Ejaculatory Orgasms for Longevity & Well-Being with Jonathan David, episode 14
27 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"This process teaches you how to be a more expansive container for life-force energy. You are no longer a slave to your sexuality -...
Expanding Your Orgasmic Potential, episode 13
19 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"Orgasms can be an expanded state of consciousness. Being present, following your spiritual practice, and setting an intention are ...
Open Relating in Marriage with Annalise Oberts, episode 12
13 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"Love is infinite. It is literally the essence of who you are. By loving someone outside your primary partnership, you are not loos...
Growing Through Ghosting, episode 11
06 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"Stop asking, 'What could I have done differently?' and instead ask, "What am I learning?" When we show up in a...
Love Without Limits with Frank Mondeose, episode 10
30 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Send us a text"We’re entering a new age of conscious sexual engagement, where safety is sexy. Communication allows us to fully surrender with p...