Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This week on the Tech on Tap podcast, we talk databases cloud and how to position them with the database maestro, Jeff Steiner. Welcome to the Tech on Tap podcast. Hello and welcome to the Tech on Tap podcast. My name is Justin Parisi. In the studio with me today. Stop texting. Huh? Pay attention. Did you already hit record? I did. Wait. Yeah, I did. Okay. Yeah. Glenn Sizemore. Hi. Hi.
The distractible Glenn Sizemore.
I was trying to find our third, but it's okay. I guess we'll just go. That's fine.
Our third may or may not be in the office today. He's traveling because he's more important than anyone here. This is all true. Yes. Also more intelligent and better looking. Don't tell him I said that. Anyway. So on the phone with us today, we have a very special guest, Mr. Jeff Steiner. He is the database guru here at NetApp. So say hello, Jeff. Hello. How's it going? Oh, going all right.
You're located out in Namia, aren't you?
Yes, I am based in Munich. due to a series of weird events that would probably take longer to explain than this phone call has.
How long have you been out in Munich?
It's been about four years. The final step in the roads to Munich was I got involved with a project with a lot of databases, and I just kept on answering question after question and flew out to Frankfurt a number of times, and finally they said, hey, why don't you just... move here full time. And that sounded like a really good idea to me. It's cheaper to move you out here.
Yeah, it's cheaper to move you out here. And we have pretzels. There are much worse places to live. There are. There are. So, yeah. All right. Excellent. So are you picking up any of the German language?
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Chapter 2: How does Jeff Steiner's experience in Munich influence his work?
Social media links. I'm not real active, but I've got a few things out there. I started with tweets of Steiner. You can guess that that would be on Twitter, not Facebook. And then I finally got worn down, and about three months back I started a blog just talking about the things that I work on, and that would be words.ofsteiner.com. Sorry about that. name. I was pressed for time.
I couldn't think of anything better.
That's fine. I can think of worse names, like why is the internet broken or something, whatever.
Well, I was thinking I could also elaborate because I own the whole obstiner.com domain, so sometime I might just put toaster.obstiner.com and just have a picture of a toaster.
You are your own brand, really.
Yep. That's awesome, man. I didn't know you were older. Daughter of Steiner, son of Steiner. There you go.
Yeah, yeah. So Glenn wasn't aware you had a blog. I'd seen something you posted recently, like in the last few months. That was pretty good. But, yeah, it's good to see that we have people out there getting their information on print.
More importantly, listeners, this is the guy, right? Internally, when the fire is on the hottest and there's nowhere left to go, Jeff's the guy they call. So if he's got a blog somewhere where he's just blogging, hey, here's what I think about this, you should be paying attention.
Absolutely. And he also is very instrumental within the internal DLs as well as the external DLs we have, such as the Toasters DL. He's very active on those. So when he says he's not active on Twitter, he's really just because he's spending too much time answering emails. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What are the current challenges in database management?
Today, we put 12... SAS disks behind a storage controller, and we absolutely saturate the controller. We can't get anything else before it. We can put NVMe drives in there, and now we can do the same thing with six. But at the end of the day, you're getting the same amount. And what we're building is already more than the vast majority of customers can even begin to consume.
We're already building systems that are well in advance of what our customers require. We just don't need the iteration. It's almost akin to the IPv4, IPv6 transition.
I wouldn't even call it purple.
I'd call it hybrid blue.
Okay.
If it weren't for certain vendors trying to lay claim to the term NVME, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Somehow this became fashionable, and we were forced to start educating customers about what it actually means purely as a marketing exercise to certain other vendors. And it would be nice if we could focus on providing something useful, but
If I understand it, marketing is part of it. If you think about it, it's kind of bizarre that the storage industry, it seems like this should be the most fact-based product that you could possibly make. It's about bytes and latency and bandwidth, but somehow... It's like fashion. I don't know how that happened.
Hybrid red. Lots of money, man. That's how.
Yeah. Insane amounts of money.
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Chapter 4: How does cloud technology impact database performance?
Shiny objects. Well, there's some of that. I think it's more a victim of the segmentation that typical, like larger shops typically go through. Having a guy who's in charge of your infrastructure and a different team that owns – the database instance and on top of it and a different team that does the storage and a different team that owns the data protection for that storage.
And here we are trying to sit down and have a conversation about a single stack that addresses all four of those teams. You almost need a DevOps shop to have that conversation. It's true. It's been one of those learning curves. I think our technology in a lot of ways has been well in advance of the operating practices of the industry.
And it's just a matter of like, yeah, we solved this problem well before the industry actually knew how to implement it. And now it's been solved for so long that I think people are actually looking for new answers, even though the old one is still the better one.
We should just rename it. Just stop calling them Snap Restore and now call it. Snap Mirror Anywhere.
Data Fabric.
Yes.
Sure.
You know, I mean, you also think about the security aspects of, you know, circling back to that. The snapshot piece plays into that as well. I mean, you're looking at databases that get locked out from ransomware and, you know, snapshots can restore you back to the point in time before that happened. So, you know, it plays into the security standpoint as well.
I was surprised to see that we had to write a TR on – this is another example of – and this is a fun part of my job. I admit that I enjoy this. I find it puzzling, but I do enjoy the marketing aspect where, from a technical point of view, ransomware has struck. It's encrypted a bunch of files. Except snapshots are immune from that sort of thing. To me, that, I mean, duh.
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