The human cell is wildly complex. Can AI decode it? | Silvana Konermann

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Elise Hu 0:04
You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hu. I'll be honest, before this conversation, the term virtual cell wasn't something that existed in my vocabulary. Turns out it's a real thing and could have major implications for some of the most complex diseases we know. Alzheimer's, for example, has stumped the medical field for decades because each patient's biology is uniquely tangled. But bioengineer and neuroscientist Silvana Connerman, who is a 2025 Audacious Project grant recipient, thinks that artificial intelligence holds the key to finally help us untangle it.
Silvana Konermann 0:46
We've just seen over, I would say, really the last two years that it's getting real. I think that within four years, five years, we will be able to have these models that are accurate enough to be useful. And then it's a totally different way of doing biology.
Elise Hu 1:02
Silvana works at the ARC Institute where she and her team are using single cell sequencing or CRISPR as well as AI to run a billion physical cellular experiments.

How does Silvana Konermann define a virtual cell?

Elise Hu 1:12
In other words, they're training a model that can speak the language of cells similar to the way large language models learn to speak ours. The goal, a universal virtual cell that tells researchers exactly which interventions could turn a real diseased cell back into a healthy one. It would transform a century of guess and check medicine into something more like a cheat code. In this conversation with TED chairman Chris Anderson, she shares how close they actually are, what the model can already do, and why she's making it available to researchers everywhere rather than keeping it behind closed doors. That conversation is coming up right after a short break.
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Elise Hu 2:27
And now our conversation of the day.
Chris Anderson 2:36
Great to see you.
Elise Hu 2:37
Welcome to TED.
Chris Anderson 2:39
Now, Sivana, you've been passionate about science for quite a long time. Tell me about this picture.
Silvana Konermann 2:46
Yeah, so this picture is when I was 15. So I was born in a small town in Switzerland. My parents weren't into science, but somehow I got really fascinated just with nature around me and also just how we worked as humans in our biology. So I really wanted to find a way to be able to get into a lab to do some science. It was actually pretty tricky for me, but Eventually, I talked one of my science teachers into convincing one of his colleagues to let me go into the lab. And so this is me with that first science project where I went on to win the national competition and then also the European Union competition. And I think that's really where, you know, I got, I think, the confidence to continue with science since then.
Chris Anderson 3:29
But there's a drawback to being a scientific prodigy, which is that you end up feeling like you might have a responsibility to do something with that. And I think you've had that your whole life, and you've thought about what are the biggest problems you could work on.
Silvana Konermann 3:43
Yeah, I have been, you know, I guess doing science now for more than 20 years, but I did want to say this is actually my first real public appearance. So I am very, very much usually behind the scenes. But yeah, I think a problem that I've really been thinking a lot about, I would say since undergrad, I did my undergrad in Switzerland in biology and neuroscience, and I learned more about Alzheimer's disease. And, you know, we were learning, you know, how there are these you know, big changes in the brain that are happening. A lot of it is known about, you know, kind of late stages of the disease, how severe it is.

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