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Why your life needs novelty, no matter your age | Kenneth Chabert (re-release)

26 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

7.085 - 14.697 Elise Hu

You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hu. Hey, everyone.

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14.938 - 36.41 Elise Hu

For the next week and a half, we are going to share a handful of talks, conversations, and podcast episodes from the TED Archive that inspire us as we're thinking about the end of 2025, as well as the resolutions and practices we hope to bring into our lives in 2026. I hope they inspire you too. We're starting with a talk from 2023 about how to truly savor life.

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Chapter 2: What are powerful first experiences and why are they important?

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For storyteller and nonprofit founder Kenneth Chabert, it's all about pursuing first experiences. In his talk, he shares his steps for creating truly meaningful moments in life where novel experiences break up mundane routine in small but significant ways, no matter how old you are.

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61.118 - 82.972 Kenneth Chabert

In 2018, I had what I call a powerful first experience. At 31 years old, I made my first snow angel. Now, that may not sound powerful to some of you, but for me, it was. And so how do you get from New York City to Montana? Well, you have to have a horse. I don't make the rules, but not having a horse is why so many people don't make it out there. I'm kidding.

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I was actually invited to attend and speak at a conference in Big Sky. I'm a kid from the Bronx, so I knew nothing about Big Sky. I knew nothing about Montana. In fact, I had only recognized images similar to it as the screensaver that comes on whenever my MacBook goes idle.

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I landed in Bozeman, and the first thing I did was thank God, because I don't like flying, even though I have to do it often. I walked out of the airport and I saw no skyscrapers, no lines of cabs, no people yelling and arguing, and there were no funny smells that I was familiar with. You know, all the things that make NYC amazing.

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So fast forward, I'm in the passenger seat of the car and I'm looking out the window and I'm just taking on the views. Mountains covered in snow, trees everywhere. And at one point, we passed by these homes that had to be worth millions of dollars because they had the most beautiful view of the environment.

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Later the next day, as I'm getting off stage from speaking, a woman comes up to me and she asks, would you like to go on a hike? Now I'm from New York City, so a hike is a few city blocks. New York City is at sea level, so we're talking about real oxygen. So no, this was a hike. And at 8,000 feet elevation, one quickly realizes Montana's oxygen just isn't real.

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Midway through our hike, I can't remember what I said, but the woman grabs a fistful of snow, puts it in her mouth, and she starts to chew. And my initial thought was, that was disgusting. I would never touch anything that touches a New York City street. But then I realized this was snow from Montana, and this was symbolic of the relationships Montanans have with their environment.

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So towards the end of the hike, This woman lays down in a bed of snow, and she moves her body in a way where it registers to me she's making a snow angel. So after about 30 seconds, I decide to mimic. And so I lay in this fresh bed of snow in Montana, I move my arms and my legs, and then it dawns on me. I'm making a snow angel for the first time.

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And of course, I've seen other people do it, and I've seen it on television before, but it was the first time I did it. You see, I've coined the term powerful first experiences, or PFEs, as doing something you never thought you would do for the first time in a place that you never thought you would be in for the first time.

Chapter 3: How did Kenneth Chabert's first snow angel experience impact him?

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Now imagine if you're a kid from a community like the Bronx. While the Bronx offers amazing experiences, by the time you turn 14 or 15, you can feel like you've experienced all the powerful first experiences in that environment. And so I became obsessed with figuring out how to give more powerful first experiences to others.

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My organization, Gentlemen's Retreat, focuses on young men of color from the inner city who end up going to top colleges and universities, such as Brown University. These young men are gifted and they're special. They just felt they experienced everything their community had to offer. We call these young men Gs for gentlemen.

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And while working with these gentlemen and giving them powerful first experiences, I realized it was shaping their identities in a positive way, but it was also increasing their cultural and their social capital. An individual has cultural capital because of the environment that they come from. The knowledge, skills and belief of that environment can be seen as capital or an asset.

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And having the combination allows an individual to have economic advantages and other advantages. And when you collect powerful first experiences, you're collecting cultural capital from different environments. Social capital is a set of shared values and resources that allows individuals to come together to achieve a common goal.

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It can also be thought of as the ability to access resources and favors and information from your network. Countless connections are fostered when the gentlemen develop intimate relationships in places such as Paris, London and even Montana, as they spend time with locals, entrepreneurs and even venture capitalists. They develop a more expansive network and idea of the world.

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And increasing cultural and social capital doesn't just benefit the gentlemen, it also benefits the communities that they bless with their presence. And a powerful first experience changes the way you see yourself and the way you see the world. Going to Big Sky changed the way that I saw the world, the way that I saw myself and what I wanted to do in the world.

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Instead of waiting for my cycle of experiences to repeat themselves, doing the same things over and over, I decided to go out into the world and collect powerful first experiences. And a powerful first experience can be anything. It's all about intention. The most important part of a powerful first experience or a PFE is intention. Anyone can have them.

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You don't have to have capital or have started an organization. You don't even have to be a G. You just have to be thoughtful about two things. One, do something you haven't done but have always wanted to do. And what's important here, no matter what you choose to do, skydiving out of a plane,

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learning a new language, switching your wardrobe, whatever you decide to do has to have a certain level of risk in it for you. It's about courage. The courage to get on a plane and go to a state where most people don't look like me in order to experience something as simple as making a snow angel. Second thing, switch up your environment, change the stimuli, and please try to be bold.

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