‘England have the best spinners in the World Cup’ - Vaughan

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Henry Moeran 0:34
Well, hello, welcome to Mumbai. I'm Henry Moran and welcome to the Test Match Special podcast. I'm happy holy as well. It is the Indian Festival welcoming spring. You might be able to hear some of the festivities in the background as we sit here on a warm morning just a couple of days out from the T20 World Cup semi-final. Will it be England? Will it be India heading to the semi-final to join either South Africa or New Zealand?
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What is the significance of Holi in Indian culture?

Henry Moeran 1:09
Well, sitting with me in the sunshine as the music plays and the festivities take place, Michael Vaughan, the former England captain, and also Prakash Wakanka. It is a very colourful scene. I have to say, as we went to breakfast this morning, Michael and I were daubed in paint powder, Prakash. You arrived a little late on parade for breakfast, so dare I say it, Michael and I are looking a little holier than thou. Tell us what Holi is about first and foremost.
Prakash Wakankar 1:36
Well, you know, this festival is actually, as you said, it marks a change of season primarily. But there are two very interesting and different legends associated with it. One is on the previous night, that's last night, in the north of India and the north central part of India, you would have had a fire being burned. with old things, wood, but all the old stuff that you want to throw away. So it's about rejuvenation, it's about burning all the evil, getting rid of all negativity, all of that stuff. And in that part of the country, that fire then settles and in the morning, some of the Ash is taken as sort of an offering, if you will, mixed along with all the other colors and things that are used for the play and then people play with it.
Prakash Wakankar 2:25
And now, of course, because of Bollywood, even in parts of southern India where Bollywood was never really that big, it's become a festival. It's like everything else. I mean, you know, anything that Bollywood does becomes national, maybe even arguably global. So there's a huge amount of attraction to Holi for people both within India and elsewhere and people just have a great time. The traditional drink by the way, and this will interest you, is a type of, well I don't want to use the word, but it's a type of thing that helps you get a little bit high. It's rolled into a little ball and in almond infused milk it's kept overnight, and then you have copious quantities of it during Holi, so that you're in a state of semi-consciousness, if you want to call it that.
Prakash Wakankar 3:12
And so it goes from just the pure flowers at one end, which is purest, to all the way where you have a certain amount of heavy heads, if you will.
Michael Vaughan 3:22
Well, there you go, Vaughan, I feel educated. Well, I feel like I've been let down because I've not had one of those drinks. It's called pan and we should get you some. I'm looking over at the celebrations and just I'm looking to see where the drinks are. It's such a lovely vibe, isn't it?
Prakash Wakankar 3:38
This is a very posh, very organized, very sensible version of it, Michael.
Michael Vaughan 3:43
What Henry hasn't let on to is that my colorful place came from Ensoring Breakfast where I was greeted by three lovely young ladies, putting all the colour on my face. Henry actually got his, doing his park run this morning.
Henry Moeran 3:58
I went on a holy park run.
Michael Vaughan 3:59
Oh, you did?
Henry Moeran 4:00
Well done. And it was, there was a group of people and they'd just finished, they were having some snacks, samosas and things, and they absolutely bombarded me with the paint powder. So there we go. So I tried to wash it off without much success. But yeah, what a place, what an occasion. And we build up to what should be an incredible couple of semi-finals. I mean, we'll get on to England against India at the Wankhede shortly, but South Africa against New Zealand, Michael.

How do England and India compare in the T20 World Cup history?

Henry Moeran 4:28
Again, South Africa have been brilliant. Seven out of seven.
Michael Vaughan 4:31
Yeah, I mean, they're a high quality side. They obviously got to the final in the Caribbean. They were close to beating India in that final in Barbados.

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