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The Agenda

"Baz Vs Ben & Strip Club Burgers"

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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I'll ring the bell, Tony Lyle. Winter's here. Have you heard about the New Zealand Herald Bell? I don't know about the bell. Oh, you'll love the bell. What's the bell? So every time there is a weather event or a potential weather event, because you know that weather means clicks, means, you know, before panic stations.

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Well, it's the only thing New Zealand news media reports on, so it must be good for clicks. And it's also, it's very overdramatic about atmospheric rivers and, you know, potential loss of life.

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Oh, weather bombs.

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Weather bombs. I haven't heard the weather bomb recently. Yeah.

Chapter 2: What is the significance of the New Zealand Herald Bell in media?

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It's true.

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They've picked it away for a while. They're waiting for the big weather bomb, the next Bayanu.

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Yeah. So anyway, when someone gets wind of something big, a bell gets rung.

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Literally? Yep. So there's a bell somewhere in the Herald office and someone rings it.

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Ning, ning, ning, ning. There's weather. Ning, ning, ning. And everyone drops everything. And then they go and they all just dig in and try and dramatize it. They run to their different computers and sort of assemble like Voltron.

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Yeah.

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That's exciting. And today it's happened. Yeah, it's pretty average. Piss them down with rain.

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And I mean, I don't want to be a massive Aucklander over here about it, but I just sat on the motorway for a solid hour in the rain. It's that classic one you say every time when it starts to rain. Everyone's like, all right, it's raining. What if I drive as fast as I can directly into the car behind me? And so there was a huge crash on the motorway in the water. It was cliche.

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I drove past him and said, get something new, you loser. Or something the best was you can't park there, mate. Oh, the compilations of you can't park there on Instagram make me, some of them I'm like, there's people crawling out of an inferno and they're like, you can't park there, mate. I'm like, geez, check they're okay beforehand.

Chapter 3: What led to the breakup between Ben Stokes and Baz McCullum?

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So over summer, from about December 20 through to January 15, that is your four pillars of New Zealand summer content on news sites.

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Now, for you personally, when you hear the roll toll, they go, oh, we've hit a record Easter roll toll. Is there a little bit that's like, yes, this is big. We've nailed it. This is huge news. We've done it. Huge news. As long as I don't see the names or pictures of the people, it's sort of, it's eerie fairy and I don't have to comprehend it as people.

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And also I enjoy the shark sightings. Big one last year was a guy who was flying his drone two kilometres offshore in Mangafai of Mangafai Heads. He saw what? And he saw a group of sharks.

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Yeah, crazy that. It was crazy. Yeah, it's like I went diving 6K out into the ocean and I actually saw a whole shark. But you send that into the Herald. Clear the beaches, ring the bell.

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Ring the bell. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. All right. Live from the Export Beer Garden studios, the Agenda podcast for Wednesday, the 24th of June. The Agenda podcast, the home of sporting nonsense and claptrap. Brought to you by Export Ultra. Right at the top of the pod, do us a favour. Make sure you put us on auto-download.

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Now, I don't want to sound like a company man, but how on God's green earth do you do that?

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Because I've been requested every podcast I listen to, they're saying to do this. Press the little three dots at the top there and it says auto-download. Do that. Oh, that's easy. Yeah, or you subscribe and you'll get automatically fed it. It just helps. It just helps us.

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It just helps us.

Chapter 4: How are the White Ferns performing in their World Cup defense?

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So if you watch that back, I'll be scuttling around like I'm on heroin, just sort of scratching everywhere, itching, sniffing my nose. And it was a real wake-up call watching the footage back. I feel like one of the All Blacks must – this is what the Chiefs must have done when they did the video session on – didn't they do the video session? Sorry to go straight to the Chiefs. Yeah, fuck you.

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Do you reckon before they hit Mad Monday, they had a video session to go rake over the coals?

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I'm pretty sure none of those chiefs, including management, will ever watch that game ever again.

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Is there any game of sport that you personally have never watched again that went poorly? The one that jumps to mind is the 2019 World Cup final.

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I watched, as a piece of therapy, because I'd go down the hole every time someone would even just mention the year. Yes. I watched the last over and the two super overs again. I did it with friends.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of adding a 20th NRL team in Christchurch?

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I did it with Matt Heath and Jeremy Wells.

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I've done the exact same thing, and I was surprised by so much, and I was also like, oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, same. The Trent Bolt run out on the last ball was so handy. We very nearly didn't even go to super over. If they got back, he managed to do a handy bit of fielding to run them out to take it to super over, which – I think they ran a two on that last ball.

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It so nearly wasn't a thing. And how good were his slower balls in the Super Bowl? I keep saying this. There was a time there I still thought we were going to win, even though I knew we were going to lose. Even though it was a replay. When you see Jimmy Neesham slap that six, you think, are we on here?

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Chapter 6: What are the four pillars of New Zealand summer content?

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Yeah. Are we on? I've never watched any of the Chiefs' last four losses in grand finals. I've never watched that.

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Yeah, why would you? And I'll never watch it again. That's cruel and unusual self-harm watching a Super Rugby Grand Final loss.

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Yeah, I will never re-watch the All Blacks versus France quarterfinal in Cardiff.

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No, I don't think I've ever watched that one.

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Yeah. I don't think I've ever watched, but not...

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pretty like hurtful reason but i don't think i've re-watched the highlights of the 20 was it the 2019 rugby world cup against england yes i don't think i've ever watched that one just because it was 2015 cricket world cup final uh in melbourne i haven't re-watched that i've watched the first over of baz getting out and um it was tough it was a tough watch well let's let's on that topic

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We've mentioned here that there must have been some sort of breakdown between Baz and Stokesy over the Ashes. And they had a review, a formal review, in which no one lost their jobs. Robert Key kept his job at England Cricket. McCullum kept his job as coach with his band of New Zealand Merry Men, including Tim Southey and Jeet Patel. And Stokesy kept his job. So...

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I don't know what went on, but they've come out and said all things are rosy. They're obviously not.

Chapter 7: What feedback do listeners have about the podcast?

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What happened? And he goes, oh, fuck, I don't know, man. I was like, well, so what the fuck's all this shit about us hating each other? He goes, oh, fuck, what do you think it's about? And I was like, oh, fuck, if I know, I'm fucking, I mean, you're a good mate.

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Yeah, well, fuck, you're a good mate too, but yeah, you sort of fucked me there for a bit. Oh, okay, well, let's get on with it then.

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Oh, all right, well, fuck off then. Yeah, well, why isn't that in there?

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And then they would have walked out and said, listen, we just had the best chat we've ever had. The best chat we've ever had. We've sorted it. And, I mean, the third test is.

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I'm excited about it. So am I. Because New Zealand did exactly what they needed to do at the Oval. On our newsletter last night, I did shame to Edgbaston. I said it was Edgbaston in our newsletter last night. It was the Oval. I knew that. It was my mistake. They needed that. And I got a fully fit Matt Henry. And I just keep hucking back. Imagine if he was fully fit at Lord's.

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I think that would have been a much closer match.

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It would have been much closer. It was just so good to see him in full stride. And I just love their keeping up. It's exciting. It's that thing. It feels like a little revolution. You go, oh. It's also a big dick maneuver.

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100%. Because their keeper sucks.

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Yeah. It's going, hey, look what we can do. Yeah. I mean, it must be scary as all hell. It's Alex Carey all over again.

Chapter 8: How does the podcast discuss the relationship between Baz McCullum and Ben Stokes?

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You like to hear that, especially from the home club you support, that they actually look after them. They don't just churn them out and say, see you later. Yeah. Oh, for the next one. So there you go. But back to cricket. Yes. I don't know if you're following the White Ferns. Well, yes, I saw that they had a win against Scotland and a comprehensive one at that. You'd hope so.

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An over and a half to spare. Yeah, well, I mean, they almost lost to Ireland, beating Scotland. I think what we've got to beat England and then West Indies have to lose both of their last games for us to get through. I'm glad that we've turned it around and got a couple of wins because I had heard someone say before, could this be the worst ever title defence in any World Cup?

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If they lost against Ireland and Scotland, yes.

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Yeah, well, even one of those games. Let's say we lose to England. If we were to lose against Ireland... I can't think of a worse World Cup defence. It'd be like winning the Rugby World Cup and then not making it out of the pool.

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So Susie Bates, she didn't play against Sri Lanka or West Indies, but they brought her back for Ireland and Scotland. Contributed against Ireland. Scotland, she didn't bat or bowl. It's kind of weird, isn't it? You don't think that's weird?

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Well, you've got to wonder if there's some sort of Baz, Ben Stokes situation going on with the coaching staff there.

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With their greatest player of all time.

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Yeah, it's a real head scratcher. Good to see Izzy Sharp in the runs, 62 of 43. I mean, could she be one of those players that goes on to be in the next great era? Yeah, well... I reckon she's handy.

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They're going to have to pull one out of the bag to beat England, who are one of the favourites at home to win this World Cup, and rely on the West Indies to shit the bed in their last two games.

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