Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Libraries Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing
Podcast Image

The Ancients

The Cambrian Explosion: When Life Began?

14 Jun 2026

Transcription

Transcript generated automatically by AI and may contain errors.

Chapter 1: What triggered the Cambrian Explosion?

0.031 - 16.874 Tristan Hughes

Ever wondered why the Romans were defeated in the Teutoburg Forest? What secrets lie buried in prehistoric Ireland? Or what made Alexander truly great? With a subscription to History Hit, you can explore our ancient past alongside the world's leading historians and archaeologists.

0

17.454 - 63.231 Tristan Hughes

You'll also unlock hundreds of hours of original documentaries with a brand new release every single week covering everything from the ancient world to World War II. Just visit historyhit.com slash subscribe. 538 million years ago, something mysterious happened in the murky depths of our seas. Our planet came to life. It's known today as biology's Big Bang, the Cambrian Explosion.

0

64.443 - 93.222 Tristan Hughes

Simple organisms gave way to complex, mobile creatures with eyes, limbs, shells and teeth. Predators and prey emerged and, for the first time, life on Earth really began to take shape. A sudden burst of evolution saw practically all major animal species begin to appear in the fossil record. But why? What sparked this burst of complexity?

0

93.963 - 123.306 Tristan Hughes

Why did evolution move so slowly for so long, only to erupt like this? Welcome to the Ancients. I'm Tristan Hughes, your host, and this is the story of the Cambrian Explosion. Biology's Big Bang. Our guest is a fan favorite returning expert, the paleontologist, evolutionary biologist, author and editor, the one, the only Dr. Henry G.

0

125.986 - 130.532 Tristan Hughes

Henry G, what a pleasure it is to see you in person for the very first time.

130.552 - 138.103 Henry Gee

Well, it is, Tristan. I mean, here we are actually together simultaneously, both at once and at the same time.

138.364 - 140.206 Tristan Hughes

Who thought that was possible?

140.226 - 140.767 Henry Gee

Who'd have thought it?

140.787 - 144.332 Tristan Hughes

I've got to ask, first of all, are the chickens doing all this? They're chickens. They're two of them left.

Chapter 2: How did life evolve so rapidly during the Cambrian period?

241.917 - 252.581 Tristan Hughes

So this is the period when, I mean, the fossil record, I guess, basically becomes a thing when we start actually seeing skeletons in the surviving record, in the soil and so on.

0

252.702 - 276.818 Henry Gee

That's right. It was the first time we actually saw animals big enough to see with the naked eye with hard parts. Right. armor, jaws, teeth, skeletons, shells. And of course, it's the hard parts that tend to be fossilized. It's only very rarely that you get fossilization of the soft parts of an animal. And that really is quite remarkable.

0

276.798 - 286.365 Tristan Hughes

So if the Earth is some 4.5 billion years old, how far back do we need to cast our minds for the story of the Cambrian?

0

286.886 - 306.022 Henry Gee

The Cambrian, they keep changing their minds about the beginning of the Cambrian. There are two ways to decide this. One is when particular fossils occur. Traditionally, the beginning of the Cambrian is seen as the occurrence of a kind of burrow called treptichnus.

0

306.743 - 329.693 Henry Gee

So when animals started to be able to burrow into the sediment, that caused a big change in the global ecology, rather than skating over the surface. Once they started mixing up the sediment, that caused a great deal of change to the Earth system. But the other one is directly dating it using not carbon dating that runs out. That's useless before about 45,000. It's recent history.

329.733 - 351.259 Henry Gee

It's quite recent history. So there are various radioisotope methods that you can use to date the beginning of the Cambrian. But they keep changing their minds. I mean, I looked up this morning and the latest... agreed date for the beginning of the Cambrian was 538.8 million years ago.

351.319 - 375.964 Henry Gee

In fact, the reason we're having this today, listeners, is because it's the 538.8 millionth anniversary next Tuesday. So that's why we're doing it. So the Cambrian period, as a period or what they call, geologists call a system of rocks, started about then, but they keep changing their minds because it's very fluid.

376.425 - 400.478 Henry Gee

It's a subject of major research, not just in paleontology, but in geology and geophysics, trying to work out what changed in the system. Before we had an idea of the absolute age, people wondered if there was a period before the Cambrian which was completely lost. It had been completely eroded away to nothing in which all this evolution happened.

400.978 - 412.619 Henry Gee

So that that being eroded away, you would then afterwards get the impression of nothing and then lots of things. But it turns out that it's real. there is a definite gap.

Chapter 3: What role did the Great Oxidation Event play in the Cambrian Explosion?

506.045 - 525.745 Henry Gee

nothing much seemed to happen for a billion years. It's what geologists who don't get up in the morning for anything less than apocalyptic disaster call the boring billion. But things were going on in the background. Now, um, Most eukaryotes that live today are single-celled.

0

526.005 - 554.49 Henry Gee

Amoebas, paramecia, flagellates, dinoflagellates that cause these blooms, many horrible diseases, malaria, they're single-celled. But there were signs of multicellular eukaryotes. About 1.8 billion years ago, seaweeds. About a billion years ago, there were early seaweeds, early fungi, but nothing animal-like until the breakup of a huge supercontinent.

0

555.031 - 577.767 Henry Gee

Now, we know about the supercontinent of Pangaea, and I remember we chatted about that. Well, there is a supercontinent cycle where the Earth breathes on a period of about 500 million years. So the continents tend to glom together into a big supercontinent, and then they break up, and then they glom together again.

0

577.747 - 602.903 Henry Gee

And a friend of mine, a geologist called Ted Neal, has written about this in a book called Supercontinent. And I owe it to him to tell everybody that it's not about the importance of pelvic floor exercises. It's about the supercontinent cycle. Well, before Pangaea, the supercontinent before that was called Rodinia. Rodinia. And that started to break up about 800 million years ago.

0

603.003 - 623.683 Henry Gee

And as a consequence of that, there were... two or three snowball earth episodes where they were ice ages so severe that they covered the whole of the earth. Now, just before the great oxidation event, there was another of these snowball earth events, which was even more severe, but that was so long ago, we don't need to worry about it. But

623.663 - 649.587 Henry Gee

Partly to do with the Snowball Earth events, animal life appeared. And these were large enough to see with the naked eye. But the first flush of animal life was very strange. And this was before the Cambrian. These were the Ediacaran fauna. Now, a fellow, I think his name was Spriggs in Australia, discovered the Ediacaran fauna in South Australia in some sandstone fields.

649.567 - 676.755 Henry Gee

very, very coarse impressions of things that look like jellyfish and other things, squashy sea creatures that were very hard to assign to any particular group of animals. They have been thought to be lichens. They have been thought to be their own thing, some strange creature. Some have been tentatively associated with modern groups of animals. But since then, Ediacaran faunas have been found in

676.735 - 697.004 Henry Gee

all sorts of exotic locations from the White Sea coast of Russia to Namibia to Newfoundland to Bradgate Park near Leicester. Brilliant. If you go to Bradgate Park in Leicester, it's a public park, and in the middle there are these enormous great rocks which are pre-Cambrian.

697.064 - 715.954 Henry Gee

It's a little splot of pre-Cambrian in the middle of the English Midlands, and it's got Ediacaran fossils on them, but they're thick. very, very hard to see. I mean, some of them are huge. I mean, they're not tiny. They're as big as a pair of trousers, you know, spread along the rocks. There's one called Charnier Discus is one.

Chapter 4: What were the Ediacaran fauna and their significance?

787.794 - 812.43 Henry Gee

Well, nobody really knows with the Ediacaran what they were like. I mean, some of them might be kind of colonial. They're these Ediacaran creatures called rangomorphs. which look like plaited loaves. And some of them seem to have little smaller plaited loaves around them. They grew like strawberry plants by shooting out runners and grew baby ones. These are mostly known from Newfoundland.

0

812.41 - 833.941 Henry Gee

Now, people have split up the Ediacaran into various sub-stages. The earliest one part is found in Newfoundland and I think probably Leicestershire, but the later part is in Namibia and also on the White Sea where you see signs of things that look a bit like mollusks, in other words, more modern animals.

0

834.381 - 842.012 Henry Gee

So there were signs of animal life happening just before the Ediacaran period finished and before the Cambrian Explosion.

0

841.992 - 853.106 Tristan Hughes

And I've just got this last thing in my notes is that people describe it as the Garden of Ediacara. So this idea that there weren't predators or prey at that time, they all just coexisted.

0

853.547 - 883.054 Henry Gee

Yes, it was hard to know what the ecology was like, but there doesn't seem to have been any predation as far as we can see. Nobody knows how they lived. Maybe they had symbiotic algae like corals do today. So, it's a huge amount of unanswered questions about how the Ediacaran lived. And people think, you know, it was a kind of blissful time of things just getting on.

883.134 - 904.977 Henry Gee

But I'm sure that a lot of the animals were probably slurping up even smaller things that don't appear in the fossil record. like larvae or bacteria or tiny eukaryotic cells, because even though multicellular creatures had evolved, there were still, as there are now, lots of single-celled creatures around.

905.638 - 914.895 Henry Gee

So there was probably a lot of filter feeding and deposit feeding, but nothing chasing each other with nasty long pointy teeth. But that's...

914.875 - 923.914 Tristan Hughes

comes soon after. It does, yes. So, what happens roughly around 550 million years ago that is the spark for this explosion in life?

924.174 - 951.022 Henry Gee

Well, there are lots of different theories and they're probably all connected. One is that that sponges had evolved. The earliest sponges are about 900 million years old. But sponges do something great. They slurp up a lot of detritus from the ocean. And once the sponges did that, there was less for decay bacteria to decay. Decay bacteria suck up all the oxygen from the seawater.

Chapter 5: How did the evolution of the anus contribute to animal complexity?

1113.025 - 1118.357 Tristan Hughes

Because I know I asked that question earlier and it might have come out of the blue, but there is reason for it.

0

1118.417 - 1144.014 Henry Gee

It certainly came out of something, yeah. Go on then, so the evolution of the anus. Well, the evolution of the anus. Well, what happened was most early animals and some primitive animals, they kind of absorb and excrete all their stuff through the skin because they're very small. Now, some creatures such as jellyfish and hydra, they have one opening that leads to a bag-like gut.

0

1144.475 - 1169.765 Henry Gee

So everything that goes in comes out the same way. And it's usually a kind of dissolved wash process. of stuff, but a major innovation was the through gut, where there's a mouth at one end and an anus at the other end. Now, of course, biology loves its exceptions. There are these amazing things called cone jellies, ctenophores. They have four anuses, which is amazing. But we'll forget about them.

0

1170.266 - 1191.053 Henry Gee

They're another, like chickens are another whole thing. But so there was a mouth at one end and an anus at the other. And so animals, for the first time, had a direction of travel. So animals started doing things that they hadn't done before. Most of the time, previously, they just stayed in the same place, waving tentacles in the air. I mean, Ediacaran animals were rather like that.

0

1191.073 - 1216.042 Henry Gee

They just stayed in the same place. They started burrowing. Now, as we've talked about, the origin of the Cambrian is marked when burrowing. burrowing animals happened. There's a particular kind of burrow called treptichmus that was made by a burrowing animal. Now, there are many ways to burrow. One way is to inflate yourself and to make yourself kind of hydrostatically rigid, like an earthworm.

1216.582 - 1242.55 Henry Gee

But another way is to clothe your body in armour. So because of These things happening at the same time, the bilateral body plan with the mouth and the anus and all that calcium coming into the sea. And if animals are moving in a particular direction of travel, eyes evolved in the Cambrian. There's a guy called Andrew Parker who's written and talked about this a lot, about how eyes happened.

1242.99 - 1258.031 Henry Gee

So when animals have got eyes and they're moving in one direction, they're usually looking for something. And what that something is, is food. So they start to eat each other. And of course, what with all the calcium, that led to the evolution of teeth and the evolution of armour.

1258.051 - 1275.238 Henry Gee

Now, one of the very earliest Cambrian fossils, as opposed to just a burrow, which is what we call a trace fossil, is an animal called Claudina. It's very, very small, and it looks like a stack of ice cream cones. And one of the very earliest cloud diners has got a bite crunched out of it.

1275.299 - 1280.526 Henry Gee

So even then, back at the very earliest Cambrian, there are signs that animals were taking bites out of each other.

Chapter 6: What are trilobites and why are they important in the fossil record?

1497.114 - 1508.474 Tristan Hughes

You can normally recognize if you're at the Cambrian layer because you'll find trilobite remains. Are there any particular sites in the world where we do have a really, apart from right outside Leicester.

0

1509.155 - 1521.618 Tristan Hughes

Are there any particular examples, like particular rock faces, where they are just full to brim of different Cambrian animals, trilobites, but also all these other animals that emerge at this time?

0

1522.019 - 1538.13 Henry Gee

Well, the Cambrian is named after Cambrian whales, so that's full of Cambrian hornets, but there was a lot more to the Cambrian than trilobites. A century ago or so, there was a fellow called Walcott who was a geologist, and he used to take his family on vacation to British Columbia.

0

1538.59 - 1561.932 Henry Gee

And high up on a mountain in British Columbia, he and his family discovered what are now known as the Burgess Shales, which are actually a series of quite small exposures Very high up. I mean, I've not been there. There was a field trip I didn't go on because I knew I was not going to be fit enough to get there. I mean, it's like mountaineering to get there. We're high up in the Rockies.

0

1562.713 - 1594.16 Henry Gee

It just shows you the power of the earth. There are these deposits that happened in the deep sea 508 million years ago, something like that. So picture the scene, continental shelf, a mudslide, berries, all these animals all at once, and they go down to the deep sea. And because of not very much oxygen, they're preserved perfectly, including their soft parts. And what a menagerie they are.

1594.52 - 1618.326 Henry Gee

They're lots of spiny-skinned animals of various sorts. There are some famous ones like Hallucigenia. Yes, what's this? Hallucigenia was named after a friend of mine, Simon Conway-Morris from the University of Cambridge, who I don't think he'd mind me saying he's a bit of an old hippie. He named it, and it says something in the paper on account of the strange and dreamlike appearance.

1618.366 - 1634.621 Henry Gee

Hallucinogenic, okay. Yeah. Yes, so it's basically a worm with enormous spikes dipping out of its back. And it's since been discovered that there are quite a lot of these. They're called lobopods. They're kind of closely related to arthropods, these armoured worms.

1635.062 - 1657.146 Henry Gee

And there is a relic of those animals living today on land, the onychophores or velvet worms, which are strange little worms with Michelin-mounted stumpy legs that go around forest floors. So there was that. But there were a lot of sort of shrimpy-like things, but there was a big, big predator at the time.

1657.266 - 1667.34 Tristan Hughes

We're going to tee up that one because I've got two names here. I'd like to do the smaller one first, and I hope I'm on the right track when I say the word opabina. Opabinia.

Chapter 7: What were the major predators of the Cambrian seas?

1807.009 - 1810.975 Henry Gee

And so they specialised in various ways, these anomalous carids.

0

1820.303 - 1826.313 Anthony Delaney

Are you looking for the perfect podcast to hunker down with during the longer, colder, darker nights?

0

1826.854 - 1833.324 Maddy Pelling

Well, look no further than the award-winning After Dark Myths, Misdeeds and the Paranormal with me, Maddy Pelling.

0

1833.344 - 1838.633 Anthony Delaney

And me, Anthony Delaney. We are historians and love all things gloomy and macabre.

0

1838.68 - 1850.471 Maddy Pelling

From Tudor executioners and ancient Egyptian death rituals to witch trials and folklore. Feel transported back in time on After Dark. Out every Monday and Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts.

1850.511 - 1855.103 Anthony Delaney

And guess what? We're also now on YouTube. After Dark, a podcast from History Hit.

1870.878 - 1875.925 Tristan Hughes

And you mentioned earlier those trilobites, which had bites taken out of them, circular bites.

1876.386 - 1876.626 Henry Gee

Yeah.

1876.666 - 1879.11 Tristan Hughes

Does that align then with that kind of circular mouth?

Chapter 8: How did the Cambrian Explosion affect the future of vertebrate evolution?

2202.766 - 2218.797 Henry Gee

I don't want to write another one. I did write one, and then people kept asking me to write another one. And I said, no, I'm not a scientist. You scientists, you write one. And then I was cornered in a room by two of these scientists and my publisher. So there was no excuse.

0

2218.817 - 2248.019 Henry Gee

So I had to spend 16 months writing another book about the origin of vertebrates because a lot has been discovered in terms of genetics, in terms of molecular biology, and, of course, in fossils. Now, it was the Chengjiang fauna of China that produced the things that kind of solved the problem. But I have to go back to one of these strange worms that Simon Conway and Morris described.

0

2248.04 - 2248.981 Henry Gee

You can't help yourself, can you?

0

2249.001 - 2250.483 Tristan Hughes

You've got to go back to the strange worms.

0

2250.523 - 2274.961 Henry Gee

Well, there was this kind of strange worm thing called picaia, which looked like a segmented fish fillet. Because it wasn't an arthropod, Simon got to study that. He'd written an initial description a long time ago. Many more fossils have been found since. And he kept not writing the definitive monograph. And I asked him why he hadn't done it.

2274.981 - 2302.158 Henry Gee

He said, because the more you look at it, the weirder it gets. The less and less like a vertebrate ancestor. Now, Picard is not the earliest vertebrate. It's an offshoot somewhere, because there were all sorts of weird things that weren't vertebrates. But the earliest vertebrates, and we could call them fish, were at the Chengjiang fauna.

2302.459 - 2329.142 Henry Gee

There's one called hycoicthus, and there's another called millocamingia. And these were the earliest known fish. These are the first fish in the world. They had no paired fins. If they had a backbone, it was just cartilaginous. They had no hard parts. And this is why it took exceptional preservation in places like the Chengjiang Fauna to show them up at all.

2329.603 - 2352.789 Henry Gee

They were, you know, small, about the size of an anchovy or maybe small, real tiddlers, like a... you know, wide-baked thighs. Sardines. Yeah, or even smaller. And they had eyes, but more than that, they had four eyes. They had two pairs of eyes. In addition to the regular pair of eyes, they had another accessory pair next to them of smaller eyes.

2353.33 - 2377.949 Henry Gee

So Milo Kunmingi, the earliest vertebrates, had four eyes. What happened to these other two? They eventually went inside the head and became the pineal gland, which is still... You know, we have pineal glands in the middle of our heads, but they're connected by nerves to the eyes and the optical centres of the brain. And these are the glands that help us regulate our biorhythms.

Comments

There are no comments yet.

Please log in to write the first comment.