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International Unrealism w/ Deep State Kuba

18 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy are joined by Deep State Kuba Ph.D., international relation expert to the podcasting stars, to discuss current events in an unraveling w...

&&&: Clim&te Defi&nce w/ Nate Smith

16 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

The full episode is avaiable for FREE members at http://patreon.com/thiswreckagePaid subscribers can watch the video version of the pod here: https://...

Kharg of War (Half)

09 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

We go through different theories of WHY the Iran war is happening: ZOG/Epstein, Venezualizing Iran, Destabilizing the Gulf, Neo-Neoconservativism, imm...

Diving into the Wreckage: Iran Crisis w/ C Derick Varn

04 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

To access the entire conversation, all of our bonus content and more become a supporter at www.patreon.com/thiswreckageThe boys are back to discuss th...

BONUS: Smothering Heights w/ Susannah Grossman Wolfe

27 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Our gothic romance correspondent Susannah returns to chat about Emerald Fennell's kinkified adaptation of the Bronteฬˆ classic, Wuthering Heights!For ...

E325 (PART 2): Nick Land Acknowledgment w/ C. Derick Varn

25 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

For the full episode, Discord access, and all bonus material, support the show at http://patreon.com/thiswreckageIn part two of our news episode we ch...

The Tariff Rift w/ C. Derick Varn (PART 1)

23 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

News ep! We talk striking nurses, MLBPA drama, SCOTUS vs POTUS, the changing tactics of ICE, looksmaxxing, and more with our cool Social Studies teach...

ARMED LOVE 14: Sixties Surrealism w/ Abigail Susik

20 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Abigail Susik is an art historian, vice president of the International Society for the Study of Surrealism, and editor of Resurgence! Jonathan Leake, ...

DitW: The Dam Breaks in 2026 w C. Derick Varn

11 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Varn tackle the important question regarding the release of the much-vaunted 'Epstein Files': which ones of 'our faves' might be implicated? ...

E324: Blockade Party w/ Noah Kulwin & Brendan James

04 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

The hosts of Blowback Podcast report back from Colombia and Cuba!For an extended version of this episode, support the show at http://patreon.com/thisw...

E323: Chai El See w/ Chicago Independent Labor Club

29 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Gavin and Hope from the Chicago chapter of the Independent Labor Club join Sean to discuss national news and local chapter news in Chicagoland.Join us...

E322: L'Internationale (Derogatory) w/ Connor Mulhern & Henry Wallace PREVIEW

23 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy are joined by Connor Mulhern, lead researcher at the Reactionary International Research Consortium, and Henry Wallace, head honcho at th...

The Donroe Mocktrin

19 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Our thoughts on the wars, foreign and domestic, covering Greenland, Canada, China, Venezuela, EU, NATO, Israel, Minneapolis, the consolidation of neo-...

E320: This Angry Wreckage w/ Angry Workers of the World

17 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy are joined by Marco and Luke of the UK collective Angry Workers of the World, here to discuss their practical activity and intellectual ...

The Warmth of Collectivism

12 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

We discuss PLURIBUS: Vince Gilligan's new show about a misanthropic writer who has to deal with the annoying communist singularity.for the FULL EPISOD...

E319: Good and Evil

09 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Sean is drunk and angryListen to the full episode free and subscribe for our bonus ep about Pluribus at http://patreon.com/thiswreckageShow notes:NYE ...

Au Revoir Simรณn

05 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Our initial reaction to Trump's first regime change and some thoughts on the end of the Bolivarian Revolution.Statement from La Clase: https://laclase...

Diving into the Wreckage: One Crisis after Another w/ C. Derick Varn

24 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Varn are back to talk current events, discuss theory and gripe about everyone and everything. On the tumbrils this week: artificial intellige...

Year of the Youthquake w/ Adrian Wohlleben

17 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Adrian's talk about his Ill Will Editions essay Revolts Without Revolution, a development of the memetic theory from his previous essays on Gilet Jaun...

E316: The Bovine of Western Civilization

10 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

NEWS EP! We cover the true origins or the Warner Brothers buyout, Trump's new National Security manifesto, the death of the West, and say farewell to ...

E315: Conservative Marxism w/ Ralph Leonard

08 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy are joined by British-Nigerian writer and podcaster, Ralph Leonard, to talk about identity, politics and the Anglo Ummah. We discuss the...

&&&: DSA Drama & Conan Watching

05 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

For the full episode (in audio only OR video) sign up at http://patreon.com/c/thiswreckage!&y and &ers J. Lee talk about Zohran's walkbacks, m...

Microfascist Machines w/ Jack Z. Bratich

26 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jack Z. Bratich chats about the concept of "microfascism," a term coined by Deleuze as part of their project of tracing โ€œthe genealogy and the perma...

E313: Imagining a Zoomer Marxism w/ Tony 1dime

19 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean interviews the ever charming Tony from video essay channel 1Dime and political podcast 1Dime Radio about what it's like to be young and/or Canadi...

E312: We Must Imagine Frankenstein Happy

14 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about Guillermo Del Toro's Frankenstein and decide: Worth it and/or woke?For the full episode subscribe at http://patreon.com/c/thiswreckageDe...

ARMED LOVE 13: White Panther Party w/ DJ PreSkool

12 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In 1968, Huey P. Newton told an interviewer that whites who wanted to support the Black Panthers should create the White Panther Party. Later that yea...

E311: Z-Day + Bugonia w/ Payton McCarty-Simas

07 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We give our first reflections of Zohran's mayoral victory in New York: Sean from his coworkers, Andy from the Commie Corridor.Subscribe at http://patr...

Diving into the Wreckage - New Old Crises

05 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Varn meditate on a moment full of incoherence that somehow coheres.Song: Nirvana - DiveFor the full episode sign up at http://patreon.com/thi...

๐Ÿ”ฅHELLWORLD๐ŸŒ w/ Phil Neel

29 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Phil Neel guides our Halloween descent into HELLWORLD--his epic new horror-theory analysis of the megastructures of global capitalism, and a search of...

Criminal Anarchy w/ Aaron J. Leonard

22 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Longtime friend of the show, historian Aaron J. Leonard joins us to talk about his new book Menace of Our Time: The Long War Against American Communis...

DITW: On Terrorism and the State by Gianfranco Sanguinetti (RIP)

15 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Andy, Varn, and Alex of Antipolitika Journal read and discuss Gianfranco Sanguinetti's 1979 text "On Terrorism and the State."A follow-up on his "Trut...

E308: Snake Mistakes

08 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

NEWS EP! Government Shutdowns past and present, ICE in Chicago, Trump vs. Big Capital, and Sean's essay on the implications of the international sprea...

E307: Time doesn't exist, yet it controls us anyway

03 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We discuss our new podcast name, and Paul Thomas Anderson's new film, One Battle After Another.For the full episode support the show at http://patreon...

Texas in an Outrage

01 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

A member of DFW Defendants Support reports from the first court hearing for 17 activists being charged with terrorism after attending a July 4 noise d...

E305: Years of Lard

26 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Catching up on the news, and announcing the show's rebrand! A must listen for all longtime friends and fans.Bailing out Argentina: https://on.ft.com/4...

E304: DSA with Bruv Characteristics w/ Max Shanly

22 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Max Shanly calls in from the UK to give his thoughts on the formation of the new party challenging Labor and Reform. Shanly argues that it should be m...

Every Fire Needs A Little Bit of Help w/ Aristilde Kirby, O.K. Fox, Samantha Hinds, Heatwave, Antipolitika, Payton McCarty-Simas & Jarrod Shanahan

19 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Audio from our public reading + NYC Anarchist Bookfair afterparty at Book Row! A celebration of the publication of Every Fire Needs a Little Bit of H...

E303: Doing Politics the Right Way w/ Lake Effect

17 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

A conversation with Chicago's Lake Effect Collective about the pro-Palestine University Occupations, the Chicago DNCs of 2024 and 1968, the current st...

E302: Which Way, Western Marxist? w/ Ross Wolfe (HALF)

10 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

BASED Western Marxist Ross Wolfe EVISCERATES Domenico Losurdo for poor scholarship and neo-Stalinist zig-zagging.For the full episode, including paywa...

E301: National DCification w/ Rax King

03 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean is joined by James Beard Nominated author, Rax King, to discuss her long-suffering hometown, Washington DC and the new trials it faces now that P...

E300: Late Antifascism

27 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We celebrate 300 (+) Antifadas with a news episode and Q+A! New hits include Trump's Intel buy, the alt-right power and schisms within the Trump admin...

E299: Wrecking Crew w/ Caucus of Rank-and-file Electrical Workers

22 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean is joined by Scott, Leo and Emily of the new nationwide initiative within the International Brotherhood [sic] of Electrical Workers called CREW. ...

Trump's Big DC Takeover / In the Year Two-thous&&&

18 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

&y & &ers speculate on the deeper motives behind the move to end Home Rule in DC, then hop in Naomi Wolf's Apple Time Machine way back to ...

Antifada LIVE: Platforms of Proletarianization w/ Cured Quail & Clocked Out

13 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Audio from our live event! A panel about the way social media and technology effect our day to day lives and our future as a species with Eric-John Ru...

E298: This Town is Too Hot w/ Heatwave Collective

06 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Andy and Sean are joined by two anon members of the Heatwave Collective to discuss their new project: a better magazine for a worse world. How might w...

BONUS: Eddington was a Documentary

01 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Our mysterious Anarcho Film Critic returns to debate EDDINGTON, Ari Aster's new Western farce set in a small New Mexico town experiencing the pandemic...

E297: Malcolm in the Meltdown w/ Malcolm Harris

30 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Malcolm Harris, author of Kids These Days and Palo Alto returns to talk about his new book Whatโ€™s Left: Three Paths Through the Planetary Crisis--a...

E296: Conflicted Solidarity w/ Sarah Schulman

23 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sarah Schulman chats about her latest book "The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity", a meditation on the category of solidarity informed by her decad...

&&&: SUPERM&N

18 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

&ers & &y talk about James Gunn's woke, punk, millennial, pro-Palestinian, anti-ICE Superman!For the full episode sign up at http://patreo...

Diving into the Wreckage: Communization w/ C. Derick Varn

16 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

To listen to the bonus portion of this episode (where all the deportable offenses might happen) become a patron at www.patreon.com/theantifada for thi...

E295: Let them Eat ICE w/ Zhana Kurti

09 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Z's back to dive deep into Trump's BBL, Alligator Alcatraz and future detention centers, LA and Chicago's immigration showdowns, and the Brandon Johns...

E294: Hot Communist Summer Part 1 w/ C. Derick Varn

30 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

As history repeats itself, we dissect Zohran Mamdani's stunning Democratic primary victory over former Governor Andrew Cuomo in NYC's mayoral raceโ€”...

E293: Mom-Dommy vs. Tammany Daddy w/ Mattie Lubchansky

23 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Our final predictions and analysis for the 2025 NYC Democratic mayoral primaries with Mattie Lubchansky of the No Gods, No Mayors podcast.For the full...

UNLOCKED: Veiled Threats w/ Arya Zahedi

20 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Part 2 of our April, 2024 discussion with Middle East scholar Arya Zahedi of Insurgent Notes about the essay Class Struggle, Autonomy, and the State i...

E292: LA TACO w/ Victor Artola

16 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Report-back from the streets of LA with Victor Artola, author of Los Angeles, Or the End of Assimilation from Ill Will Editions.For the full episode s...

E291: MF DOOM Outro w/ S.H. Fernando Jr.

11 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy chat with S.H. Fernando Jr., aka Skiz, the author of Chronicles of DOOM Unraveling Rap's Masked Iconoclast. We cover some hip hop histor...

Independent Labor Assembly 5: Education and Labor 5/30/25

06 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

For the full episode (FREE!), sign up at http://patreon.com/theantifadaThe following is the audio from the Independent Labor Club of New York's assemb...

Garveyism 2: Three Way Fight w/ John Garvey

02 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

John returns for our special miniseries discussing his decades of experience theorizing and organizing, current events and life/work in New York City....

E290: French President SLAPPED by FURIOUS wife!!! w/ Henry Wallis

28 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Our French correspondent joins us to talk about the SLAP heard 'round the world. We also get some updates on Melanchon's US tour, discuss Hasan Piker'...

E289: Freedom Zone of Interest w/ Malek Rasamny

19 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Malek Rasamny walks us through the moving gears of Middle East geopolitics in the wake of Trump's visit to Riyadh, opening relations to the Syrian reg...

E288: Fraudian Ziz-o Analysis w/ David Z Morris

12 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Tech and finance writer David Z. Morris talks us through the mental illness behind Silicon Valley's fascist immortalists, rationalists, effective altr...

AI Caramba 3 w/ Paris Marx

09 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean talks with Paris Marx about AIfor the full episode, support the show at http://patreon.com/theantifadaSong: Barry Manilow - Aye Caramba!

E287: Studying for the Communism Test w/ Jasper Bernes

05 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jasper Bernes chats with us about his new book on the history of revolution from the Paris Commune to the George Floyd Uprising and the task of commun...

RIP Joshua Clover

30 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Tribute to a recently-departed comrade."nothing is over, that is the only certainty. the other certainty is that everything ends, even this" -Poem (Se...

Diving into the Wreckage: Into the Train Wreck w/ C. Derick Varn

23 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Varn catch up on the first 100 days or so of Trump 2.0, the inanities and indignities of history forced to move again in dumb, but possibly p...

&&& ๐ŸŒฟ420๐ŸŒณ SPECIAL- Walter Benjamin's ๐Ÿ‘ผOn The Concept of History ๐Ÿ˜‡

21 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

For the full episode support the show at http://patreon.com/theantifada&y & &ers smoke a joint and read Walter Benjamin's On the Concept o...

E286: Indefinite Baseball General Strike 2027 w/ Tipping Pitches

14 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Alex Bazeley and Bobby Wagner of the labor-focused baseball podcast Tipping Pitches join Andy to chat about the 2025 season, the upcoming 2026 showdow...

E285 - Liberation Day

07 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy discuss JDPon Don's Great Reset, the #HandsOff protests, the Mar-A-Lago accords, and the death of the American DreamIn the fun half, ava...

Independent Labor Assembly 4: Trump, Tariffs and the Working Class

04 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

This is a recording of the ILC's fourth public assembly at Woodbine Space in Queens on March 29th, 2025 featuring Cyrus Cappo of John Jay College CUNY...

E284 - Betar, then Ezra w/ Eli Valley (Part 1)

31 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

To listen to the full episode support the show at http://patreon.com/theantifadaPolitical cartoonist and writer Eli Valley joins us to talk about his ...

E283- Once Upon a Time in Aragua (Part 2)

28 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Preview of Part 2 in which we talk more with Jarrod and Zhana about the pitfalls of performatively moving on from identity politics, the Bukele-prison...

E283 - Prison Planet w/ Jarrod Shanahan, Zhana Kurti (Part 1)

24 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jarrod and Zhana return to talk about their new book "Skyscraper Jails: The Abolitionist Fight Against Jail Expansion in New York City"! We look at h...

AI Caramba 2: Crap Fartman vs Ned Ludd w/ Jathan Sadowski

17 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Our artificial intelligence miniseries returns with a guest spot by This Machine Kills cohost, Jathan Sadowski, about his brand new second book The Me...

&&& - Minne&polis Te&mster Strike of 19&4

12 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Audio from a Twitch stream in which &ers & &y go through the history of the Minneapolis General Strike of 1934 and reflect on what lessons...

E282 - Garveyism 1 w/ John Garvey

05 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean is joined by old friend, John Garvey, to introduce our new miniseries: Garveyism! In this first episode we discuss some current events--the Ukrai...

E281 - Remember the Alamo Workers w/ NYC Alamo United

24 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy chat with a worker organizer at one of the three Alamo Drathouse locations striking against seasonal firings. We cover how Barbenheimer ...

E280: Imagining the Burger Reich w/ Phil Neel

17 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Hinterland author Phil Neel returns to explain value-form to an American by asking us to imagine a burger.Listen to the full episode by joining our pa...

E279: What's going on?

10 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

NEWS EP! We sort out the class forces behind the Muskite restructuring underway, the meaning of the tariff trade war, and argue for why we should stay...

BONUS: Severance Season 2 w/ Rax King, Mattie Lubachansky & Jaya Saxena

07 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

full episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-our-lives-121342801Our guests from this week's AI episode stick around with Sean to continue the hij...

AI Caramba 1: The Martin Files w/ Rax King, Mattie Lubchansky, Jaya Saxena

03 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean didn't have the guts to name this new podcast series about AI as Rax, Mattie and Jaya would have it: Unintelligent Fartelligence. Feel free to bo...

DITW: Anatomy of the Micro-sect (Part 1)

27 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean, Andy, and Varn scan the sectarian terrain of the US today as a prelude into our (part 2) discussion of drama in MAGA communism. For part 2, su...

BONUS: Real Ultraleft Gangsta Rap Kritik Hours w/ David Campbell and Jarrod Shanahan

24 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

D-Rock and J-Bone are back to join us in a reading of the ICC's classic essay about gangsta rap and Eminem: https://en.internationalism.org/wr/242_emi...

E278: Living on Island Time w/ Jarrod Shanahan and David Campbell

20 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Drawing from their own experiences of incarceration, authors Jarrod Shanahan and David Campbell offer an unprecedented look inside New York's notoriou...

E277: Citizen App Marxism w/ Bruno Leipold

15 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sean and Andy (recovering from various ailments) are joined by political theorist, Bruno Leipold, to discuss his excellent new book Citizen Marx: Repu...

BONUS: Beyond the Axis of Resistance w/ Arya Zahedi, Malek Rasmany, Aziz Alhamza

10 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Audio from a talk held by Woodbine's December 22nd Research Group facilitated by Malek Rasamny and Arya Zahedi. What are the horizons, opportunities...

E276: Stochastic Panic w/ John Garvey, Zhana Kurti

06 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

We talk about the Cybertruck psyop with Insurgent Notes, Race Traitor, and Hard Crackers vets John Garvey and Zhana Kurti.In the fun half, available t...

Diving into the Wreckage: 2024 and the Long 20th Century, PART 2 PREVIEW w/ C Derick Varn

03 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

This is a short preview of the paywalled portion of the long discussion between Sean and Varn about the 2024 election and the end of the Long Twentiet...

Diving into the Wreckage: 2024 and the Long 20th Century, Part 1 w/ C Derick Varn

01 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Stroky Sean and cancer-free Varn are reunited to dive back into the wreckage. This is part one of over three hours of conversation about just about ev...

E275: Unwrapping Spotify w/ Liz Pelly

30 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Music journalist Liz Pelly joins us to discuss her new book The Mood Machine the Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist. How did the DIY...

E274: Merry Brutalistmas w/ Ross Wolfe & Susannah Grossman Wolfe

25 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Merry Christmas, everyone! This year, the Santifada is bringing you the same present as always: an episode about the themes of Jewish identity and ant...

PROLETKULT 13: eXpropriate SpaceX w/ Beka Valentine, Nick Chavez

18 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

For the full episode, support the show at http://patreon.com/theantifadaThe Antifada sideproject about the paranormal, the parapolitical, science fict...

BONUS: Immortalist Techniques

13 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Andy and Sean read about Prospera, a libertarian City State in Honduras that is attempting to abolish death and bankrupt the country in the process. T...

E273 - The Mass Stroke

09 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Sean is BACK from hopital with Stroke Updates + Syria, South Korea, UHC Shooter and other political assassinationsListen to Part 2 and support Sean an...

&&& - This Trotskyist American Life

06 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

&y and &ers Lee read Leon Trotsky's predictions about the glorious future of a 1930s Soviet America, in which tipping and chewing gum have bee...

E272 - Merchant of Doom w/ Jamie Merchant

04 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Audio from our November 23rd event at Woodbine with Jamie Merchant about his new book Endgame: Economic Nationalism and Global Decline. He sketches th...

BONUS: Even Jesus Had a Girlfriend w/ Henry J. Wallis

29 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In Part II, Henry discusses the New International article Erasing the Pregnant as a way into talking about religious politics and secularism in regar...

E271 - New International Year One w/ Henry J. Wallis

27 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Henry's back for France Popular front updates to unveil his new journal, the New International! From there, we discuss Andy and Varn's essay The Und...

Boundless and Bottomless Seas 9: Dugin on Civilizations

22 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Varn, Sean, and Regrettable Century continue their reading of Dugin's Fourth Political Theory!This is the section where it becomes clear that Dugin us...

E270 - The Rain in Spain w/ Prole.info

18 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

A report from the Valencia inundation zone by B from the propaganda powerhouse Prole.info! We discuss the floods and the political aftermath, includin...

E269 - What Does the Election Mean for Labor? w/ Independent Labor Club of NY

13 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

On November 9th, 2024 the Independent Labor Club of NY hosted a panel at Woodbine in Ridgewood, Queens. Sean moderated this discussion between:Aaron L...

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