Wolves over Lakers? + The Jokic Bump

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What is the Jokic bump and why is it important?

Dave DuFour 0:07
Good morning and welcome to the NBA Daily. Coming up, it's the playoffs. Fred Katz is here to talk about the Jokic bump, and we're going to break down some of the pivotal series as we march toward the finals. Good morning, everybody. Good morning, guys. How's it going?
Zena Keita 0:26
Good morning. It's going well. We're taking a little break before the playoffs start. Shout out to the play-ins being... I love this pace.
Dave DuFour 0:36
Fred Katz is here right off the jump. Fred, this is about as light of a schedule as you've had all year, right?
Fred Katz 0:43
Oh, yeah. Yeah, nothing. It's not like I've had features that I've been working on forever coming out all week. It's not like I'm working on, you know, post-mortem stuff for 17 teams whose seasons are over and preparing for the playoffs coming up and everything else. None of that is happening. So I'm doing great.
Dave DuFour 1:02
Fred is in it's you've you've been added to the list of guys that you just don't want to have writing about your team right as the season ends. I mean, you know, if Fred is writing about your team right now, except for the Knicks, it's probably not great. Although you did write about Nikola Jokic and the Jokic bump, the Jokic effect. And the way that this guy elevates his teammates.

How does Nikola Jokic elevate his teammates?

Dave DuFour 1:27
Now, look, you also covered John Wall, who was a guy that elevated his teammates quite a bit. Totally different styles, right? John Wall would attack the basket and he'd find these shooters in the corner. Man, how do you wrap your head around a guy like Jokic that finds shooters in places where they normally don't stand and where usually guys can't make passes to?
Fred Katz 1:50
yeah to me so i wrote i wrote this story and it kind of started i i don't like going into a story with an idea of this is exactly what i'm writing about no matter what because i find if if you if you have specific goals going into a story before you know everything then you end up getting tunnel vision and ironically like you end up not being you should treat a story like nicola jokic treats a basketball game No tunnel vision. Don't lock in on one spot. Just know you got the whole court to work with. So I go in and I'm like, I'm just going to talk to people about things I think are interesting and people are going to explain things to me and I'm going to learn things. And then a story is going to start to form. And you go in with an idea of kind of what you're thinking.
Fred Katz 2:34
And originally what I was thinking was, hey, Christian Brown is way better this year. I would like to write something about how Christian Brown has been way better this year and how this happened. Christian Brown was nice enough to talk to me for a very long time. I mean, he gave me a ton of time and was extremely open in our interview. I always appreciate it when guys who I cover can be so honest and available and it's like, that's why you do the job. It was really cool. We had a great conversation. And props to him for being kind enough to do that. And he just kept saying to me, like, I'm not that improved, man. Like, I'm not that improved. And I think he's a very modest guy.

What insights did Christian Brown share about Jokic?

Fred Katz 3:16
And so I think the number one place where that comes from was him being a very humble person. I also think he wasn't lying. Like, I don't think he thought he was lying at least because what he kept saying was he was like, you know, the coaching staff has done an amazing job with me. And then he was like, this is Nicola. Look at what Nicola does with everybody. And we dove into, okay, so how does Nicola... help you? Obviously he's going to find you on all these cuts and do all this stuff, but how does he help you? And we start talking about the off the court stuff and he tells me a story about how when he was a rookie, they do these pre-practice stretches and he wasn't taking stretching seriously enough.
Fred Katz 3:55
So Jokic, after a little while of telling him to take it more seriously, goes over, takes his stretching mat and plops it next to him and is like, you are stretching next to me, bud. And they still stretch next to each other every day and all these little things. And then it starts to hit me. Like I covered Isaiah Hartenstein when he was with the Knicks.

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