The Automation Podcast

What New in TIA Portal v21 (P259)

28 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

This week Shawn Tierney meets up with John DeTellem of Siemens to what’s new in TIA Portal v21 in this episode of #TheAutomationPodcast. For an...

Digital Transformations & Industrial Automation Trends with Dante Vaccaro (P258)

21 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

This week Shawn Tierney meets up with Dante Vaccaro of Schneider Electric to discuss Digital Transformations and Trends in Industrial Automation in t...

PRONETIQS: Measure, Monitor, and Maintain (P257)

14 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

This week Shawn Tierney meets up with Matthew Dulcey of PRONETIQS, and Stefan Hild of Spur Insights, to learn how PRONETIQS helps Measure, Monitor, a...

Drew Allen of Grace Technologies on Automation, Safety, and More (P256)

17 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Drew Allen of Grace Technologies to discuss Automation, Safety, the history of Grace, and more in this episode of The Aut...

Robotics in Warehouse Automation with Erik Nieves of Plus One Robotics (P255)

10 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Erik Nieves of Plus One Robotics to discuss Robotics in Warehouse Automation in this episode of The Automation Podcast. F...

Innovation Summit Las Vegas 2025 Recap (P254)

03 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney recaps his trip to Schneider Electric's Innovation Summit Las Vegas in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For any links related to...

New Features of Ignition 8.3 with Travis Cox (S2E37)

02 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

[sc name="ad-ab1-vse"] Shawn meets up with Travis Cox of Inductive Automation to learn about the new features found in Ignition 8.3 in this episode o...

Siemens Sirius Act with Profinet (P253)

16 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Mark Berger of Siemens to learn how Siemens integrates SIRIUS ACT devices (push buttons, selector switches, pilot lights) ...

OTee Virtual PLCs (P252)

12 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Henrik Pedersen and Jacob Abel to learn about OTee Virtual PLCs in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For any links ...

Siemens SINAMICS G220 Clean Power Drive (P251)

05 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Ivan Spronk of Siemens to learn about the SINAMICS G220 Clean Power Drive in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For ...

Samos PRO MOTION Safety Controller from Wieland Electric (P250)

29 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Michael Warren of Wieland Electric to learn about the Samos PRO MOTION Safety Controller in this episode of The Automation...

Copia Automation on AI and Industrial DevOps (P249)

22 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Gerry Abbey, Gavin Schalliol, and Kaitlin Lockridge of Copia Automation to learn about the new AI features added to Device...

Software Toolbox: OPC Server, Router, DataHub and more (P248)

08 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Connor Mason of Software Toolbox to learn their company, products, as well as see a demo of their products in action in th...

Innovations in Coriolis Flowmeter Technology (P247)

24 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Lauton Rushford of Endress+Hauser to learn about new innovations in Coriolis Flowmeter Technology in this episode of The A...

ET 200SP Distributed IO First Look (S2E19)

18 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn takes a look at the ET 200SP line of Distributed I/O from Siemens in Episode 19 of The Automation Show, Season 2. For any links related to this...

IO-Link: What Is It, When To Use It, and How It Works (P246)

11 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Michael Bowne of PI to learn what IO-Link is, how it works, and when to use it in this episode of The Automation Podcast. ...

ISA OT Cybersecurity Summit (P245)

27 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Ashley Weckwerth of ISA to learn all about the OT Cybersecurity Summit in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For any...

First Look: Samos Pro Safety Controller (S2E15)

20 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

This week Shawn Tierney hosts Michael Warren from Wieland Electric in studio to demonstrate the SAMOS PRO Safety Controller in episode 15 of The Auto...

PROFINET and System Redundancy (P244)

13 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Tom Weingartner of PI (Profibus Profinet International) to learn about PROFINET and System Redundancy in this episode of T...

The Most Underrated Skill in Automation (P243)

06 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Aaron Moncur of Pipeline Design and Engineering to discuss "The Most Underrated Skill in Automation," as well as the upcom...

Ignition Community Conference 2025 (P242)

30 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Paul Scott of Inductive Automation to learn all about this year's Ignition Community Conference in this episode of The Aut...

Emerson Dust Collector Monitoring & Control Solution (P241)

16 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Eugenio Silva of Emerson to learn all about Dust Collection Systems, and Emerson's Monitoring and Control Solution in this...

Commission Siemens VFDs using StartDrive (P240)

02 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Jackie Stokes of Siemens to learn how to commission VFDs using StartDrive in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For ...

Trends in Robotics with Winston Leung of QNX (P239)

18 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Winston Leung of QNX to discuss Trends in Robotics in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For any links related to th...

Talking Automation with Rylan Pyciak of Cleveland Automation Systems (P238)

04 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Rylan Pyciak of Cleveland Automation Systems to discuss Trends in Automation, Inspiring a New Generation of Controls Engin...

Rockwell’s New Ethernet/IP In-Cabinet Solution (P237)

21 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Kelly Passineau of Rockwell Automation to learn about their new EtherNet/IP In-cabinet solution for networking motor start...

MaintainX: Prevent Unplanned Downtime (P236)

09 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Colin Morris of MaintainX to learn about their CMMS solution for preventing unplanned machine downtime in this episode of ...

First Time Using Ignition: Tags and Views (P235)

24 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Kyle Van Eenennaam of Inductive Automation to learn how to use Ignition in this episode of The Automation Podcast. Note: ...

What’s New & Next with Logix and 5590/L9 (P234)

12 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Liz Prosak and Dennis Wylie of Rockwell Automation to learn what's new and next about Logix, including what's new with the...

2024 Audience Choice Poll Results (P233)

08 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

This week I cover the results from our 2024 Audience Choice Polls, recapping what industrial automation vendors our audience picked as their top choic...

Position Guided Vision (P232)

18 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Zack Steck of Pepperl+Fuchs to learn about their latest Position Guided Vision product in this episode of The Automation P...

Anybus Defender Industrial Security Devices (P231)

11 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Thomas Vasen of Anybus to learn about their new Defender Industrial Security Appliances in this episode of The Automation ...

Siemens S7-1200 G2 PLC: Overview and First Look (P230)

04 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Luis Narvaez of Siemens to get an update on the new S7-1200 G2 PLC, as well as a first look at the hardware, in this episo...

Manufacturing Execution Systems (P229)

26 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Ryan Kuhlenbeck to learn about Manufacturing Execution Systems and Pico MES in this episode of The Automation Podcast. No...

Copia’s Ai Copilot Documents, Converts & Writes PLC Code (P228)

20 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Adam and Nick of Copia Automation to learn about their new Ai Copilot's features in this episode of The Automation Podcast...

Siemens TIA Portal v20 (P227)

13 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with John DeTellem of Siemens to learn what's new in TIA Portal version 20 in this episode of The Automation Podcast. To learn...

PRTG’s OPC UA Server: IT & OT Monitoring for your SCADA, HMI, or PLC (P226)

06 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Greg Campion of Paessler to learn about their PRTG OPC UA Server in this episode of The Automation Podcast. To learn more...

FrameworX v10 from Tatsoft (P225)

30 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Marc and Harry of Tatsoft to learn about the newly released FrameworX v10 in this episode of The Automation Podcast. To l...

DF1 to Ethernet/IP Router by Prosoft (P224)

23 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Dennis Gonzalez of Prosoft to learn all about their DF1 to Ethernet/IP Router in this episode of The Automation Podcast. ...

AI, Technology, and Manufacturing with Rhonda Dibachi (P223)

16 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Rhonda Dibachi of HeyScottie.com to talk about AI, Technology, and Manufacturing in this episode of The Automation Podcast...

tManager by Softing: Connecting Control Systems to Databases and the Cloud (P222)

09 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Quinton Lowry of Softing to learn how their tManager products can quickly connect Control Systems to Databases and the Clo...

Trends In Industrial Automation (P221)

02 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Steve Mustard, Automation Consultant and former ISA President, to discuss the current Trends in Industrial Automation in t...

Micropsi: AI-Powered Computer Vision for Robots (P220)

25 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Ronnie Vuine of Micropsi to discuss their AI-Powered Computer Vision for Robots in this episode of The Automation Podcast....

Mettler Toledo’s Weigh Module SPE (P219)

18 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Chris Schultheis of Mettler Toledo to discuss their new Weigh Module SPE in this episode of The Automation Podcast. Note:...

Schneider’s Altivar Solar ATV320 VSD (P218)

11 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Nick Rosner of Schneider Electric to discuss their new Altivar Solar ATV320 VSD in this episode of The Automation Podcast....

Emerson Robotic Paint Automation Solutions (P217)

04 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Sumit Kapde of Emerson to discuss Robotic Paint Automation Solutions in this episode of The Automation Podcast. Note: For...

Manufacture Local Interview (P216)

28 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with John Gardner to talk about his new book, Manufacture Local in this episode of The Automation Podcast. Note: You can picku...

Digital Twins In Industrial Applications (P215)

21 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Steve Mustard, Automation Consultant and former ISA President, to discuss Digital Twins as used in Industrial Automation i...

The New G220 VFD from Siemens (P214)

15 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Ivan Spronk of Siemens to learn about their new G220 Variable Frequency Drive in this episode of The Automation Podcast. ...

Horner’s New Canvas PLC+HMI and CScape v10 (P213)

07 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Chuck Ridgeway of Horner Automation to learn about their new Canvas PLC+HMI  as well as Cscape v10 in this episode of The...

Opto 22’s Groov Epic and RIO (P212)

31 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Dan White of Opto 22 to learn about their Groov Epic and RIO in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For more informat...

The State of Industrial DevOps with Copia Automation (P211)

24 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Adam Gluck of Copia Automation to learn about the current state of Industrial DevOps as well as what's new with their Git ...

FactoryTalk Design Studio (P210)

17 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Tony Carrara of Rockwell Automation to learn about FactoryTalk Design Studio in this episode of The Automation Podcast. F...

K50Z Multipoint Sensor from Banner Engineering (P209)

10 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Alex Novak of Banner Engineering to learn about their new K50Z Multipoint Sensor in this episode of The Automation Podcast...

What’s New with FactoryTalk View v14 (P208)

03 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Johann Kotze of Rockwell Automation to learn about what's new in FactoryTalk View Machine and Site Edition in this episode...

ISA and Cybersecurity (P207)

26 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Scott Reynolds of ISA to learn about what ISA has been doing in the area of OT Cybersecurity, including a rundown of the O...

AMCI Motion Control Products (P206)

12 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Matthew Tellier of AMCI to learn about the Motion Control products they offer in this episode of The Automation Podcast F...

What’s New, Coming, and Changing (P205)

05 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week I discuss what episodes I have planned, as well as some of the planned changes coming to the show as I kick off the second decade of The Aut...

Project Libraries in TIA Portal (P204)

22 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with John DeTellem of Siemens to learn about Project Libraries in TIA Portal in this episode of The Automation Podcast For mor...

Siemens S7-1200 G2 (P203)

15 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Luis Narvaez of Siemens to learn all about their new S7-1200 G2 (generation 2) PLC in this episode of The Automation Podca...

IXON Secure Remote Access and Edge Gateway (P202)

08 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Brandon Penrod of IXON to learn about their Remote Access and IoT Edge Gateway Solutions in this episode of The Automation...

No Charging Downtime for AMRs, Forklifts, and Drones using Capacitive Power from CaPow (P201)

01 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Noam Geffen of CaPow to learn what's new with their Capacitive Power Solution for AMRs, Forklifts, and Drones in this epis...

TAP Episode 200: Office Tour, Reflections, and Sincere Thanks! (P200)

24 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week I give a tour of our new offices, share some reflections after 200 episodes, and express my thanks to YOU my audience, all in this episode o...

Paessler PRTG: IT and OT Monitoring Solution (P199)

17 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Johannes Liegert of Paessler to learn all about their IT and OT Monitoring Solution, PRTG, in this episode of The Automati...

New Unified Basic Panel HMIs (P198)

27 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Ramey Miller of Siemens to learn all about their new Unified Basic Panel HMIs in this episode of The Automation Podcast. ...

Unitronics PLCs, HMIs, VFDs, and Servos (P197)

20 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Kelby Seyl of Unitronics to learn all about their PLCs, HMIs, VFDs, and Servos in this episode of The Automation Podcast. ...

Siemens Industrial Computers (P196)

13 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Kristen Quasey of Siemens to learn what's new with their line of Industrial Computer products in this episode of The Autom...

Pro-face HMIs & IPCs by Schneider Electric (P195)

06 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Jay Cortel and Tom Reiter of Schneider Electric to learn all about the Pro-face line of HMIs and IPCs in this episode of T...

Radar Level Measurement: Is 80GHz Right For Your Application? (P194)

28 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Ashley David of Endress+Hauser to learn all about Radar Level Measurement, and what applications work best with the new 80...

Siemens Scalable Machine-mount I/O (P193)

21 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Garett Williams and Raj Rajendra of Siemens to learn all about their machine mount I/O products in this episode of The Aut...

Banner’s Remote I/O (P192)

14 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Sean Foley of Banner Engineering to learn all about their Distributed Remote I/O Products in this episode of The Automatio...

What’s New With Rockwell’s Logix and View (P191)

07 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week I take a look at what's new with Rockwell's Logix and View products as seen at Automation Fair 2023 in this episode of The Automation Podcas...

What’s New In TIA Portal v19 (P190)

31 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with John DeTellem of Siemens to learn what's new in TIA Portal v19 in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For more inform...

Year In Review: Our Top Ten Podcasts, Videos, and Blogs for 2023 (P189)

24 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week is our annual Year In Review Podcast in which we cover our Top Ten Blogs, Podcasts and Videos for 2023 (with commentary) in this episode of ...

Siemens S200 and S210 Servo Drives (P188)

17 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Craig Nelson of Siemens to learn all about their S200 and S210 Servo Drives in this episode of The Automation Podcast. Fo...

Schneider Altivar Machine Drives (P187)

10 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Jay Cortel, Nicolas Rosner, and Charlie Adkins to learn all about Schneider Altivar Machine (and Process) Drives in this e...

Horner Automation OCS: PLC, HMI and Distributed IO (P186)

03 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Chuck Ridgeway of Horner Automation to learn all about their OCS All-in-one Controllers in this episode of The Automation ...

Trends in Industrial Automation (P185)

27 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week I take a look back at some of our previous episodes, and share what I feel are the current Trends in Industrial Automation in this episode o...

ISASecure – Automation and Control System Security Assurance Certification (P184)

20 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Andre Ristaino of ISA, and he introduces us to ISASecure in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For more information,...

What is PLCnext, and How To Use It (P183)

13 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Zachary Stank of Phoenix Contact, and he introduces us to PLCnext and demos how to program it in this episode of The Autom...

Auvesy-MDT Octoplant: Automated Backups, Disaster Recovery, and More (P182)

06 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Shannon Friedman and Doug Campbell of Auvesy-MDT, and they introduce us to Octoplant in this episode of The Automation Pod...

MOXA’s New Industrial Computers (P181)

29 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Shahid Javed of MOXA, and he introduces us to their newest line of Industrial Computers in this episode of The Automation ...

Manufacturing: Yesterday and Today (P180)

20 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with John Gardner of CNC Broach Tools and Manufacture Local, and he shares some inspiring Industry Artworks while discussing th...

IEC-62443 Zones, Conduits, and the Red Lion RA10C (P179)

15 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Barry Turner of Red Lion, and he introduces us to IEC-62443 Zones and Conduits, as well as their RA10C Compact Intelligent...

Smart Single Point Load Cell with IO-Link from Mettler Toledo (P178)

08 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Mitch Holdren of Mettler Toledo, and he introduces us to their new Smart Single Point Load Cell with IO-Link in this episo...

TIA Portal Cloud, Subscription Bundles, and More (P177)

01 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with John DeTellem of Siemens, and he introduces us to TIA Portal Cloud, Subscription Bundles, and more in this episode of The ...

Harmony HMIs and iPCs from Schneider Electric (P176)

25 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Tom Reiter and Jay Cortel of Schneider Electric and they introduce us to their Harmony Line of HMIs and IPCs in this episo...

ArmorKinetix Distributed Servo Drives by Rockwell Automation (P175)

18 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Jon Vanderpas of Rockwell Automation and he introduces us to Rockwell's new ArmorKinetix Distributed Servo Drives in this ...

Secure, High Speed Industrial Mesh Networks by Rajant (P174)

11 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Steven Griggs and Todd Rigby of Rajant who tell us about their private, secure, and high speed Mesh Networking Products fo...

Allen-Bradley PLC Migrations with SoftPLC (P173)

04 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Cindy Hollenbeck of SoftPLC and she tells us all about migrating and upgrading legacy Allen-Bradley PLCs in this episode o...

OnLogic Industrial Computers (P172)

27 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Jason Kovarik of OnLogic and he introduces us to their line of Industrial Computers in this episode of The Automation Podc...

SMC’s Air Management System (P171)

20 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Mark Arnold of SMC and he introduces us to their Air Management System in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For mor...

TeSys Island: Smart Motor Starters from Schneider Electric (P170)

13 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Erik Barnes and Dana Voelker of Schneider Electric and they introduce us to their TeSys Island Smart Motor Starters in thi...

Softing’s dataFEED OPC Suite (D012)

06 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On today's show Quinton Lowry of Softing demos and answers questions on their OPC UA Server, dataFEED OPC Suite in this episode of The Automation Demo...

IND360: Next Gen Weighing Indicator from Mettler Toledo (P169)

30 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Jeff Holcomb of Mettler Toledo who introduces us to the Next Generation of Weighing Indicators, the IND360, in this episod...

Siemens WinCC v8 Features and Add-ons (P168)

23 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Alan Cone of Siemens who introduces us to WinCC v8, including base features and add-on options, in this episode of The Aut...

FLEXHA 5000 I/O from Rockwell Automation (P167)

16 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Armand Prezioso and Chris Stearns of Rockwell Automation, and they bring us up to speed on their new High Availability Dis...

Realtime Robotics (P166)

09 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with George Konidaris of Realtime Robotics, and he brings us up to speed on their unique technology that enables collision free...

Evolution of the Programmable Controller (P165)

02 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Today I share some high points from the evolution of Programmable Controllers in this episode of The Automation Podcast. For more information, check ...

What’s New With FactoryTalk View Site Edition (P164)

26 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tierney meets up with Michael Szentkiralyi of Rockwell Automation, and we talk about What's New with FactoryTalk View Site Edition in this episo...