The Ben Maller Show

02/03/2021 - Hour 3 - Looking at Luka

03 Feb 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Ben Maller talks about Luka Doncic getting a free pass despite the Mavericks being the biggest disappointment in the NBA, Too Much or Not Enough, and ...

02/03/2021 - Hour 4 - Cutting the Cannons

03 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Tom Brady being the King of Super Bowl merchandise, the Bucs not being allowed to fire the cannons, Password: Word Game of the ...

02/02/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

02 Feb 2021

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Big Ben talks about a courtside spat between LeBron James and a female Hawks fan, Tom Brady the ageless wonder, Maller to the Third Degree, Maller's M...

02/02/2021 - Hour 1 - Courtside Karen

02 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down LeBron James vs. female heckler at the Lakers/Hawks game, NBA Pick'em, and much more! Learn more about your ad-choices at http...

02/02/2021 - Hour 2 - Old Man Brady

02 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller talks about new quotes from Tom Brady saying that he would play past the age of 45, Maller to the Third Degree, and more! Learn more about...

02/02/2021 - Hour 3 - Silver Tongued

02 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Troy Aikman going to war with an NFL writer over comments about Jared Goff, Maller's Mountain of Money: Shakira Edition, and mo...

02/02/2021 - Hour 4 - The Patriot Way

02 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller talks about comments made by Danny Amendola that Tom Brady IS the Patriot Way, Cite the Byte, and much more! Learn more about your ad-choi...

02/01/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

01 Feb 2021

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Big Ben breaks down all aspects of the Goff/Stafford trade including letter grades for both teams, the attitude towards Sean McVay, Maller to the Thir...

02/01/2021 - Hour 1 - Blockbuster Grades

01 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down the blockbuster trade that sent Jared Goff to the Detroit Lions and Matthew Stafford to the Los Angeles Rams, NBA Pick'em, and ...

02/01/2021 - Hour 2 - No Faith?

01 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller dives into the idea that Sean McVay is on notice from the Rams for giving up on his offensive stars, Maller to the Third Degree, and more! ...

02/01/2021 - Hour 3 - Appreciate Me!

01 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller examines comments from Jared Goff that he is going to somewhere that "wants and appreciates" him, Insta-Advice Line, and much more! Learn ...

02/01/2021 - Hour 4- Ripple Effect

01 Feb 2021

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Ben Maller examines how the Jared Goff/Matthew Stafford trade affects the rest of the league, Food Picks with Marcel in Brooklyn, and much more! Lear...

The Fifth Hour-A Title and Description

31 Jan 2021

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Little pop quiz between Ben and David along with your emails for the guys to read.Make sure to subscribe, rate, and post a review on iTunes whenever y...

The Fifth Hour-Story Time

30 Jan 2021

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Tales from the Benny strike again, but his four-legged friend also jumps into the mix.Make sure to subscribe, rate, and post a review on iTunes whenev...

The Fifth Hour-We're Not Leaving!

29 Jan 2021

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The drama has left Hollywood and it has taken center stage on Wall Street. Ben and David take their act to the scene of the crime with The Street's Ka...

01/29/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

29 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about Deshaun Watson's trade request, Ben Roethlisberger making a deal to come back to Pittsburgh, Lame Jokes of the Week, and much more...

01/29/2021 - Hour 1 - Deshaun's Demand

29 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down Deshaun Watson's trade demand, gives advice to the Texans, and spins the Watson Wheel of Speculation, NBA Pick'em, and much mor...

01/29/2021 - Hour 2 - Bringing Back Ben

29 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Ben Roethlisberger wanting to play one more year and vowing to "work with the Steelers", Bryan Fenley takes over the show, and ...

01/29/2021 - Hour 3 - I'm on a Boat

29 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller rushes to get to the studio before Bryan Fenley can tank the show, Lame Jokes of the Week, and much more! Learn more about your ad-choices...

01/29/2021 - Hour 4 - Slobbering Over BA

29 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller parses the words of Tom Brady as he sings the praises of Bruce Arians, Coop's Scoop on Entertainment, Benny's Balderdash, and more! Learn ...

01/28/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

28 Jan 2021

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Ben grades the Texans hire of relatively unknow David Culley as their new head coach. Jim Irsay expresses hope that Andrew Luck will come out of retir...

01/28/2021 - Hour 1 - Grading the Texans Hire of David Culley

28 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller gives the Texans an F--- for the hire of relative unknow David Culley, NHL Puck'em, and much more! Learn more about your ad-choices at htt...

01/28/2021 - Hour 2 - Bruce Arians Will Keep Missing Tommy's

28 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Bruce Arians shutting down any rumors that he would retire if the Bucs win the Super Bow this year, Maller to the Third Degree,...

01/28/2021 - Hour 3 - Drummond for Peanuts?

28 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller is buying into the rumor that the Brooklyn Nets have an under the table deal to get Andre Drummond for peanuts, Ask Ben and much more! Lea...

01/28/2021 - Hour 4 - Irsay Believes in Luck

28 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller reacts to Colts Owner Jim Irsay saying he'd 'love' to have Andrew Luck come out of retirement to help the franchise, Puck the World, Fact o...

01/27/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

27 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about the latest in the Aaron Rodgers saga after comments from the Packers CEO, D.K Metcalf throwing Pete Carroll under the bus, Maller ...

01/27/2021 - Hour 1 - Changing the Narrative

27 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Aaron Rodgers recent comments on a podcast that attempted to clear up "misconceptions" about his future in Green Bay, NBA Pick'...

01/27/2021 - Hour 2 - DK with the KO

27 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller investigates comments from D.K. Metcalf that seemingly toss Pete Carroll under the bus, Maller to the Third Degree, and much more! Learn m...

01/27/2021 - Hour 3 - Going Going Goff?

27 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down some comments from Rams GM Les Snead on the future of Jared Goff with the team, Too Much or Not Enough, and much more! Learn m...

01/27/2021 - Hour 4 - Let Them In!

27 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller thinks it's time for the Baseball Hall of Fame to open their doors to the steroid guys after it was announced that no one was elected this ...

01/26/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

26 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about the future of Aaron Rodgers, the Cowboys rushing to sign Dak Prescott, Maller to the Third Degree, Maller's Mountain of Money: Van...

01/26/2021 - Hour 1 - Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood

26 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down the latest in the Aaron Rodgers saga and rumors of where he could end up next season, NBA Pick'em, and more! Learn more about ...

01/26/2021 - Hour 2 - Dotted Line Dak

26 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about reports that the Cowboys are in a hurry to get Dak Prescott signed to a contract extension, Maller to the Third Degree, and muc...

01/26/2021 - Hour 3 - MLB KO

26 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about MLB winning in a major lawsuit regarding former Angels clubhouse manager, Maller's Mountain of Money: Eddie Van Halen Edition, ...

01/26/2021 - Hour 4 - Rigged!

26 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down claims from former NFL star Larry Johnson accusing the league of scripting the playoffs, Cite the Byte, and more! Learn more a...

01/25/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

25 Jan 2021

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Big Ben breaks down Championship Sunday as he talks about why Packers fans should be really upset about their loss, how much blame Josh Allen deserves...

01/25/2021 - Hour 1 - ENRAGED

25 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about the Packers choking away another opportunity to make it to the Super Bowl and why Green Bay fans should be very upset about it,...

01/25/2021 - Hour 2 - Blame Pie

25 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down the Bills loss to the Chiefs and who is more to blame: the defense or Josh Allen, Maller to the Third Degree and much more! Le...

01/25/2021 - Hour 3 - He's Baaaaaaaack

25 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller actually eats some crow and talks about his surprise that Tom Brady has returned to the Super Bowl, Maller to the Third Degree, and more! ...

01/25/2021 - Hour 4 - Super Matchup

25 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller gives out a letter grade for the Bucs vs. Chiefs Super Bowl 55 matchup, Food Picks with Marcel, and much more! Learn more about your ad-ch...

The Fifth Hour-Mailbag

24 Jan 2021

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Getting with the times and changing with the circumstances has Ben upping his fitness game and avoiding some landmines.Make sure to subscribe, rate, a...

The Fifth Hour-Memory Lane

23 Jan 2021

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Getting with the times and changing with the circumstances has Ben upping his fitness game and avoiding some landmines.Make sure to subscribe, rate, a...

The Fifth Hour-Bruce Jacobs

22 Jan 2021

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Bruce Jacobs is part of the FSR alumni Association. Veteran of the sports talk wars, he hosts morning drive in Phoenix. Is a native New Yorker who lov...

01/22/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

22 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about the Lions new head coach making a splash, Dwayne Haskins getting another chance with the Steelers, Maller to the Third Degree, Lam...

01/22/2021 - Hour 1 - Tasty Kneecaps

22 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller is impressed as he breaks down the introductory press conference of new Lions head coach Dan Campbell, Championship Sunday Pick'em, and muc...

01/22/2021 - Hour 2 - 2nd Chance?

22 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about disgraced QB Dwayne Haskins signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers and if it will actually lead to an opportunity, Maller to the ...

01/22/2021 - Hour 3 - Voting Mulligan

22 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about baseball writers attempting to take back their Hall of Fame votes for Curt Schilling due to recent social media posts, Lame Jok...

01/22/2021 - Hour 4 - Dodo Bird

22 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about new Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni being called "not super smart" by an anonymous source, Coop's Scoop on Entertainment, Benny...

01/21/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

21 Jan 2021

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Big Ben breaks down the career of Philip Rivers, the new "no hugging" rule in the NBA, Maller to the Third Degree, #AskBen, and more! Learn more abou...

01/21/2021 - Hour 1 - Rating Rivers

21 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller gives out his letter grade for Philip Rivers' career after he announced his retirement earlier in the day, NHL Puck'em, and much more! Lea...

01/21/2021 - Hour 2- Can't Touch This

21 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about the NBA's new "no hugging rule" and dissects if it is as silly as it sounds, Maller to the Third Degree, and much more! Learn ...

01/21/2021 - Hour 3 - Past Due Pink Slip

21 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about the Pac-12 finally deciding to fire commissioner Larry Scott as he dives into the depths of his ineptitude, another edition of ...

01/21/2021 - Hour 4 - Beautiful Mystery

21 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down a vague quote from Aaron Rodgers about his future with the Packers past this season, Puck the World w/ Eddie Garcia, Fact or Fi...

01/20/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

20 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about Kyrie Irving's return to the Brooklyn Nets, Drew Lock's future as the QB for the Denver Broncos, Maller to the Third Degree, Passw...

01/20/2021 - Hour 1 - Back in Brooklyn

20 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down the press conference given by Kyrie Irving as he finally returns to the Brooklyn Nets, NBA Pick'em, and much more! Learn more ...

01/20/2021 - Hour 2 - Hitching to a New Horse

20 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about comments from new Broncos GM George Patton on the future of QB Drew Lock, Maller to the Third Degree, and much more! Learn mor...

01/20/2021 - Hour 3 - No Need to Volunteer

20 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller pushes back on the idea that Jason Witten could be in line to be the next head coach at Tennessee, Too Much or Not Enough, and much more! ...

01/20/2021 - Hour 4 - No Delays

20 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about the suggestion that the AFC Championship Game should be paused until Patrick Mahomes is cleared to play, Password: Word Game of...

01/19/2021 – Best of The Ben Maller Show

19 Jan 2021

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Ben kicks things off discussing the NFL announcing today that there will be no combine in Indianapolis this year. Ben also discusses reports of Payton...

01/19/2021 – Hour 1 – No NFL Combine

19 Jan 2021

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Ben kicks things off discussing the NFL announcing today that there will be no combine in Indianapolis this year. The combine of 2021 will be held and...

01/19/2021 – Hour 2 – Divorce in LA?

19 Jan 2021

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Ben discusses the reports of a possible divorce in the works between Rams HC Sean McVay and QB Jared Goff. Ben says McVay has tried everything to get ...

01/19/2021 – Hour 3 – NBA Temper Tantrums

19 Jan 2021

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Ben talks about a story out of Cleveland with the Cavaliers G Kevin Porter Jr throwing a temper tantrum because his locker got replaced and it even in...

01/19/2021 – Hour 4 – Bruce Arians Takes Shot at Belichick

19 Jan 2021

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Buccaneers HC Bruce Arians recently took some shots at Patriots HC Bill Belichick and the organization when he said in Tampa Bay they allow QB Tom Bra...

SPECIAL PREVIEW - Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre - Concussion Protocol Could Doom the Chiefs, Defense Doesn't Win Championships in the NFL & Is Ben Simmons on the Move?

19 Jan 2021

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On today's episode, Jason kicks things off with a quick thought on the health of Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes. His status for the AF...

01/18/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

18 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller recaps the divisional round games this weekend in the NFL! Ben says the next chapter is set up for Drew Brees in the broadcasting studio be...

01/18/2021 – Hour 1 – Say Goodbye, Drew Brees

18 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller is here to recap the Sunday night showdown between the Buccaneers and Saints with the ageless QB’s Tom Brady and Drew Brees going head-to...

01/18/2021 – Hour 2 – Baker Mayfield Doesn’t Deserve an Extension

18 Jan 2021

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Ben discusses the Chiefs big divisional win over the Browns on Sunday and why that proved Browns QB Baker Mayfield doesn’t deserve an extension. Ben...

01/18/2021 – Hour 3 – Rams QB Situation Up in the Air

18 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller recaps the Rams loss on Saturday and says that head coach Sean McVay doesn’t seem confident in a future with Jared Goff and the Rams shou...

01/18/2021 – Hour 4 – The Ageless Brady

18 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Ben discusses the big win by Brady and the Bucs, with Brady advancing to yet another conference championship. Ben says Brady getting the Bucs this far...

The Fifth Hour-Writers Block

17 Jan 2021

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Subscribe directly to the Fifth Hour podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fifth-hour-with-ben-maller/id1478163837.The time away has...

The Fifth Hour-Barricading

16 Jan 2021

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Subscribe directly to the Fifth Hour podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fifth-hour-with-ben-maller/id1478163837.Getting with the ...

The Fifth Hour-Waking Up

15 Jan 2021

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Subscribe directly to the Fifth Hour podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fifth-hour-with-ben-maller/id1478163837.A return to the h...

01/15/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

15 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about Urban Meyer signing with the Jacksonville Jaguars, reports that the Rockets could have had Ben Simmons, Maller to the Third Degree...

01/15/2021 - Hour 1 - Urban Planning

15 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down the signing of Urban Meyer by the Jacksonville Jaguars and pulls out the Maller Report Card, NFL Divisional Round Pick'em, and ...

01/15/2021 - Hour 2 - Bitter Fertitta

15 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about reports that the Rockets could have had a much better trade offer for James Harden, Maller to the Third Degree, and more! Lear...

01/15/2021 - Hour 3 - Mr. Unlimited Power?

15 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about reports that Russell Wilson is attempting to pick the next offensive coordinator for the Seahawks, Lame Jokes of the Week, and ...

01/15/2021 - Hour 4 - Going Green

15 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about the hiring of Robert Saleh by the NY Jets and what the odds are he turns it around, Coop's Scoop on Entertainment, Benny's Bald...

01/14/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

14 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about the big 4-team trade that sent James Harden over to the Brooklyn Nets, the rumored troubles surrounding Tua Tagovailoa in Miami, M...

01/14/2021 - Hour 1 - Crazy 4-Way

14 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down the 4-team mega-trade that sends James Harden to the Brooklyn Nets, the season debut of NHL Puck'em, and much more! Learn more...

01/14/2021 - Hour 2 - Talkin' Bout Tua

14 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller discusses how Dolphins players have reportedly been trashing Tua Tagovailoa off the record and how concerned Miami should be about his rook...

01/14/2021 - Hour 3 - Throwing in the Terrible Towel

14 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about comments from Mike Tomlin hinting at wholesale changes for the Steelers and speculates if he is on the hot seat, another editio...

01/14/2021 - Hour 4 - Championship Trade?

14 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller debates the idea that the Brooklyn Nets' trade for James Harden makes them the favorite for the NBA Championship, Fact or Fiction, and much...

01/13/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

13 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about Deshaun Watson throwing a fit in Houston, Lamar Jackson likely playing in his first snow game, Maller to the Third Degree, Passwor...

01/13/2021 - Hour 1 - Drama-O-Rama

13 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Deshaun Watson continuing to sulk with the Texans (and getting encouragement from his peers), Kyrie Irving still MIA for the Br...

01/13/2021 - Hour 2 - Let It Snow!

13 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about the narrative that Lamar Jackson should be concerned about the potential of snow in Buffalo this weekend, Maller to the Third D...

01/13/2021 - Hour 3 - Should I Stay or Should I Go Now?

13 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller discusses whether Mac Jones should stay at Alabama for his senior year or head to the NFL Draft, Too Much or Not Enough, and much more! Le...

01/13/2021 - Hour 4 - The Trilogy

13 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about reports that Evander Holyfield & Mike Tyson are close to a deal for a 3rd fight and debates if it will be a big money maker...

01/12/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

12 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about Alabama winning the National Championship, the Eagles hitching their wagon to Carson Wentz, Maller to the Third Degree, Maller's M...

01/12/2021 - Hour 1 - Top Tide

12 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Alabama winning the National Championship against Ohio State and the idea that this is the best Alabama team ever, NBA Pick'em,...

01/12/2021 - Hour 2 - Choosing Carson

12 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Eagles ownership hitching their wagon to Carson Wentz over Doug Pederson, Maller to the Third Degree, and more! Learn more abo...

01/12/2021 - Hour 3 - Making Demands

12 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Trevor Bauer and his latest rumored demands during free agency, Maller's Mountain of Money: Howard Stern Edition, and much more...

01/12/2021 - Hour 4 - No Medal

12 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down Bill Belichick's decision to decline the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Donald Trump, Cite the Byte, and much more! Learn ...

01/11/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

11 Jan 2021

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Big Ben talks about the Browns beating up on the Steelers, Lamar Jackson getting his first playoff win, Maller to the Third Degree, Insta-Advice Line,...

01/11/2021 - Hour 1 - Back in the Saddle

11 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller returns as he breaks the Browns shocking win over the Steelers and what that says about both teams, NBA Pick'em, and more! Learn more abou...

01/11/2021 - Hour 2 - One Trick Pony

11 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller talks about Lamar Jackson getting his first playoff win and if that silences all his critics, Maller to the Third Degree, and much more! L...

01/11/2021 - Hour 3 - Mo Money

11 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller discusses what the future holds for Mitch Trubisky and the Bears after their embarrassing loss to the Saints, Insta-Advice Line, and much m...

01/11/2021 - Hour 4 - Not So Super Wild Card Weekend

11 Jan 2021

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Ben Maller breaks down and grades the NFL Wild Card Weekend, Food Picks with Marcel in Brooklyn, and much more! Learn more about your ad-choices at h...

01/08/2021 - Best of The Ben Maller Show

08 Jan 2021

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Jonas Knox fills in for Big Ben and talks about Jim Harbaugh nearing a contract extension with Michigan, a new game show debut, Coop's Scoop on Entert...

01/08/2021 - Hour 1 - When Pigs Fly

08 Jan 2021

Contributed by Lukas

Jonas Knox fills in for Ben Maller and talks about rumors of Deshaun Watson demanding a trade from the Texans and if it could happen, a potential post...

01/08/2021 - Hour 2 - Back in the Big House

08 Jan 2021

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Jonas Knox sits in for Ben Maller and talks about Jim Harbaugh nearing a 5-year extension with Michigan and why it's a good move for both parties, Coo...