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Ep. 2178 - SHOWDOWN: Trump Stares Down China

11 Apr 2025

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The stock market drops again as markets realize that President Trump’s remaining tariffs are still pretty high; China faces down the prospect of economic turmoil; and we examine whether the Trump administration will stay the course.   Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/3WDjgHE   Ep.2178   - - -   Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings   - - -   DailyWire+:   We’re leading the charge again and launching a full-scale push for justice. Go to https://PardonDerek.com right now and sign the petition.   Now is the time to join the fight. Watch the hit movies, documentaries, and series reshaping our culture. Go to https://dailywire.com/subscribe today.   Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://bit.ly/3TAu2cw   - - -   Today's Sponsors:   Lean - Visit https://takelean.com and get 20% off with promo code BEN20   DeleteMe - Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you text SHAPIRO to 64000. Message and data rates apply.   NetSuite - Download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning for free at https://NetSuite.com/SHAPIRO   PreBorn! - Donate today and help save babies from abortion at https://preborn.com/BEN or dial #250 keyword 'BABY'   - - -   Socials:   Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3cXUn53   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3QtuibJ   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TTirqd   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPyBiB Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.129 - 17.956 Ben Shapiro

Well, folks, we're going to get to the continued chaos in the markets in just one minute. What does it all mean? What does the incipient China-U.S. trade war actually mean? This is what real media looks like. The Daily Wire delivers hard-hitting news led by facts, not feelings. We will cut through the noise with unapologetic truth. When you become a Daily Wire Plus member, you unlock all of it.

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18.317 - 36.188 Ben Shapiro

Ad-free podcasts, the best in investigative journalism and premium entertainment that is reshaping culture. America needs bold voices now more than ever. Join the fight today at dailywire.com slash subscribe. There's a lot of puzzlement yesterday. among certain quarters, about why exactly the stock market dropped precipitously after that massive run-up that happened on Wednesday.

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36.208 - 55.367 Ben Shapiro

So as you recall, President Trump decided that he was going to reverse many of the sanctions, tariffs that he had placed on foreign nations as of Wednesday morning, 12.01 Wednesday morning. Within 13 hours, he had reversed the vast majority of those, but he also put a 125% tariff China and retained a 10% baseline tariff against everybody else.

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55.387 - 74.246 Ben Shapiro

While the markets responded to the avoidance of the car crash that would have been the imposition of all those tariffs all at once, based on this bizarre formula, the markets reacted to President Trump's postponement with joy and soared almost 3,000 points in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. And then yesterday, there was a massive sell-off. And so people were kind of puzzled.

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74.506 - 91.072 Ben Shapiro

Wait, aren't we out of the woods? And the answer is the markets were now pricing in what exactly President Trump is doing. We now have a policy. That policy is going to be much more consistently applied. You're not going to see as much variation, vacillation, back and forth. And so the markets are trying to price in that risk. And that is why U.S.

91.092 - 108.102 Ben Shapiro

stocks, according to The Wall Street Journal, fell sharply on Thursday as investors sorted through a global economic outlook that remains uncertain despite drastic improvements over the past 24 hours. The declines accelerated after the White House said the tariffs imposed on China by President Trump in his second term actually added up to 145%, not 125%.

109.022 - 129.984 Ben Shapiro

Stocks paired those losses a little bit in afternoon trading. The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished down about 1,000 points. Again, none of that should be particularly surprising. What is a little bit surprising is that the bonds, the bond yields, for example, have been increasing precipitously at the same time, meaning that the market for bonds is really soft right now.

130.004 - 152.142 Ben Shapiro

30-year bond yields are up to about 5%, which is a very, very high rate. And that is happening because people are divesting from American investments overall. And it is not just stocks. It is also, typically, if stocks go down, bonds tend to go up in their price, meaning the yields are smaller. If stocks go up, then bond yields tend to increase because the price of bonds is going down.

153.247 - 169.237 Ben Shapiro

But when you buy a bond, essentially what you're buying is a long-term investment that is going to pay off a certain amount at the end. And it's not a particularly high amount, typically speaking. So if you are risk-seeking, you're going to buy stocks rather than bonds. If you have a lot of faith in the American economy, you're probably going to buy stocks rather than bonds.

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