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Ep. 2186 - Investigating “Putin’s Brain” + Zelensky Part II

25 Apr 2025

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We drop Part II of our exclusive interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky; we analyze what Russia truly wants with a deep dive into “Putin’s brain”; and China tries to hold up President Trump.   Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/3WDjgHE   Ep.2186   - - -   Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings   - - -   DailyWire+:   We’re leading the charge again and launching a full-scale push for justice. Go to https://PardonDerek.com right now and sign the petition.   Now is the time to join the fight. Watch the hit movies, documentaries, and series reshaping our culture. Go to https://dailywire.com/subscribe today.   Get your Ben Shapiro merch here: https://bit.ly/3TAu2cw   - - -   Today's Sponsors:   Perplexity is an AI-powered answer engine that searches the internet to deliver fast, unbiased, high-quality answers, with sources and in-line citations. Ask Perplexity anything here: https://pplx.ai/benshapiro   SimpliSafe - Visit https://SIMPLISAFE.com/SHAPIRO to claim 50% off a new system with a professional monitoring plan and get your first month free.   Tax Network USA - For a complimentary consultation, call today at 1 (800) 958-1000 or visit their website at https://TNUSA.com/SHAPIRO   LifeLock - Join now and save up to 40% your first year. Call 1 (800) LifeLock and use promo code BEN or go to https://LifeLock.com/BEN for 40% off. Terms apply.   Grand Canyon University - Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Visit https://gcu.edu today.   Blinds - Get up to 45% off for a limited time at https://Blinds.com and tell them The Ben Shapiro Show sent you at checkout.   - - -   Socials:   Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3cXUn53   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3QtuibJ   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TTirqd   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPyBiB Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.229 - 15.836 Ben Shapiro

Well, folks, we'll get to all the news plus the second part of my interview with President Zelensky in just one moment. First, a big question that I've been getting since we released the trailer for that interview with President Zelensky is why actually go to a nation in the middle of a war? And the answer is simple, because getting the facts matters. The truth matters.

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15.937 - 36.41 Ben Shapiro

And you, our Daily Wire members, deserve the truth. You deserve answers. This is the kind of journalism your support makes possible. This is the community that actually fights for your values. Join us right now at dailywire.com slash subscribe. Well, a couple of days ago, right after we left Ukraine, the Russians launched one of the biggest salvos of the war all across Ukraine, drones, missiles.

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36.83 - 57.687 Ben Shapiro

One of those missiles struck an apartment complex in Kiev. It killed at least 12 people. This prompted President Trump to take to Truth Social and issue a statement, quote, not necessary and very bad timing. Vladimir, stop. 5,000 soldiers a week are dying. Let's get the peace deal done. He said, I'm not happy with the Russian strikes on Kyiv. Okay, well, that is not going to get it done.

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58.467 - 81.926 Ben Shapiro

I'm sorry, but yelling at Vladimir Putin over Truth Social is not the thing that is going to get it done. President Trump has been very successful at successfully pressuring the Ukrainians to come to the table. He's gotten Vladimir Zelensky to agree to a 30-day ceasefire. However, when it comes to the actual pressure on the Russians, so far that seems to have been largely in abeyance.

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81.986 - 84.208 Ben Shapiro

In fact, President Trump yesterday was asked directly about this.

84.508 - 102.199 Ben Shapiro

He was doing a presser in the Oval Office, and he was asked about what concessions Putin had made thus far, because the United States is asking some pretty large concessions from the Ukrainians, ranging from acknowledgement of Russian ownership over eastern Ukraine and Crimea to the possibility of banning themselves from NATO, essentially.

103.143 - 121.755 Ben Shapiro

and not even getting great security guarantees from the United States or from Europe in the process. That is the proposal that was put on the table by supposed master negotiator Steve Vutkoff, who has yet to actually negotiate a successful deal in any real sense. Well, President Trump was asked about what exactly is Vladimir Putin putting on the table. Here's President Trump's response.

123.116 - 129.2 Reporter

What concessions has Russia offered up thus far to get to the point where you're closer to peace?

130.12 - 135.969 Donald Trump

Stopping the war. Stopping taking the whole country. Pretty big concession.

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