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Ep. 2265 - STILL WINNING: Trump’s DC Crime Triumph PLUS Court Kills $500M Anti-Trump Judgment

22 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What recent victories has President Trump achieved in Washington, D.C.?

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President Trump meets with the National Guard because he is winning the war on crime in Washington, D.C. New stats come out about immigration that show that his program to stop illegal immigration is working as well. And a huge judgment from a New York appellate court striking down that ridiculous $500 million judgment against him. So a lot of victories for President Trump. First, quick reminder.

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All righty, so President Trump has won a signal victory in this anti-crime fight in Washington, D.C. The man has a gift for picking vulnerable spots for the Democrats, attacking those vulnerable spots, and making the Democrats defend the vulnerability. It really is kind of an amazing thing. According to Breitbart, violent crime in Washington, D.C.

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has dropped 22% over the last week following President Trump's crackdown in the city. According to Fox News Digital's David Marcus, there were no murders in the city over the last seven days. That is a feat that has not been seen for months since actually March.

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Apparently, there are other statistics available from the local police union revealing that since Trump's federal takeover, carjackings have dropped an astonishing 83%. Robbery has dropped 46%. which is indeed pretty amazing. And again, it's not all that amazing when you realize that the way to stop crime is to just put people on the ground who police crime.

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I know this is crazy to Democrats, but after you label the police the problem, crime goes up. After you bring people in to do law enforcement, crime goes down. And yet Democrats are still fulminating over this, claiming it's a fascistic takeover of the United States in toto, even though President Trump did pick the area where the federal government has the most plenary power. Washington, D.C.

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is not an independent state. It is not an independent polity. It is a federal district. It is run by Congress and by the president. And if they delegate power to the mayor, that power still exists under the authority of the federal government of the United States. Well, yesterday, President Trump met with police and military in Washington, D.C.

Chapter 2: How has Trump's immigration policy impacted illegal immigration rates?

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He visited U.S. Park Police Anacostia operations facility in southeastern D.C., which is seen as the gathering point for all the agencies involved in the operation. According to ABC News, he delivered hamburgers from the White House and pizza, which is, again, very Trumpy. He has a fondness for bringing people fast food and good news. People like fast food.

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President Trump at this event, he said, listen, we're not going to stop this at Washington, D.C. We are going to try to enforce the law in all the places, in other places as well. We're not playing games. We're going to make it safe. And we're going to then go on to other places. But we're going to stay here for a while. We want to make this absolutely perfect. It's our capital.

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And I guess it used to be many years ago safe, but it's certainly not had a very good run. President Trump also did his usual sort of outreach to people. President Trump is an amazing retail politician. I've seen the man work. I've seen him deal with people on a day-to-day level. And he is tremendous in person, like really, really good.

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And you see this in all of his sort of tete-a-tetes with various members of the public, public officials, public servants. He's really good one-on-one. And so he goes to this group and he starts praising them as being healthy and attractive looking, which is high praise in Trump world. It's a healthy, attractive looking group of people.

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Well, I just want to thank everybody very much for being here. I wanted to do this. We've had some incredible results. The results have come out and it's like a different place. It's like a different city. It's the capital. It's going to be the best in the world. You know, Trump, again, when it comes to the retail of this, he's amazing.

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Remember back during the campaign when he went to New York City and went into bodegas, was talking with people. This is Trump's bread and butter. He mentioned during his visit that the federal government and law enforcement have been cleaning up the parks in Washington, D.C., which is, of course, true.

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one of the things we're going to be redoing is your parks i'm very good at grass because i have a lot of golf courses all over the place i know more about grass than any human being i think anywhere in the world and we're going to be re-grassing all your parks all brand new sprinkler systems the best that you can buy just like the augusta no it'll look like augusta it'll look like more importantly trump national golf club that's even better

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But we're going to look, we're going to have all brand new, beautiful grass. You know, like everything else, grass has a life. Do you know that? Grass has a life. You know, we have a life and grass has a life. And the grass here died about 40 years ago. So we're going to be rebuilding all of your parks and it's going to happen fast. It's going to go up like a miracle.

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The free association about grass is pretty great. I mean, again, he does own a lot of golf courses. That is definitely true. I will say I've been to Trump Doral and the grass there looks great. He's not wrong about the grass at his clubs. Very, very nice grass. He also added that he's been receiving lots of phone calls thanking him for what he's been doing.

Chapter 3: What was the outcome of the New York appellate court's ruling on Trump's fraud penalty?

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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the court's decision on Trump's business operations?

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Chapter 5: How is President Trump responding to the FBI raid on John Bolton?

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Well, speaking of President Trump's successes on immigration, joining me online is Mark Krikorian, nationally recognized expert on immigration issues. He has served as the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies since 1995. Mark, thanks so much for taking the time. Really appreciate it. Glad to be here.

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So there are a couple of really stellar reports for the Trump administration on immigration. There was one that came out just yesterday. Axios reported on this, that essentially there's been an enormous amount of self-deportation since the Trump administration started actually enforcing the law with regard to immigration. What do you make of the report?

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Well, we actually released the same report a week ago before, and we found a reduction both in the illegal and legal population. The illegal population seems to have gone down by 1.6 million people. Now, you know, it's preliminary numbers. We'll see later whether it's right, but all the indications are that it is going down, and that's not just deportations, obviously.

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That's mostly going to be people leaving on their own. Every year there's always churn anyway in the illegal population or the immigrant population. Some illegals just go home for their own reasons without being, you know, self-deported. But the key, and this is the key to success, is fewer illegals coming in and more illegals going out. I mean, it's, you know, it's sort of simple.

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It's like dieting. Fewer calories in, you know, more calories out. And that seems to be working. And, you know, we'll see. It's only been, what, eight months or something, seven months. But it's definitely going in the right direction. So there have been two aspects to the Trump immigration policy with regard to illegal immigration. One is shutting the border, which he did legitimately day one.

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And it's an astonishing thing. that we were told by the media, by the Biden administration, they needed more congressional power. They needed more funding in order to shut the border. Trump comes in first day, says the border is closed. The border remains closed. And we basically have no illegal immigration since then without any substantive legal changes, really, on that order.

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I mean, we have new funding for the border wall and all the rest, thanks to the big, beautiful bill. But I mean, that stuff really hasn't even started to happen yet. And still illegal immigration dropped to zero. So we've had that, which has been great. On the other hand, we also have the deportation policies themselves. And there's

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a bit of confusion about how thorough the deportation policies currently are, how many people are being deported, what is ICE being told to do? We've been told by some people in the administration they're targeting people who have the most egregious criminal records, by some others that pretty much everybody is going to go. What do you make of the Trump administration's deportation policy?

Chapter 6: How does the podcast analyze the impact of tariffs on U.S.-India relations?

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There was a decision that came down from a New York court, a trial judge found that Trump was liable for fraud. Why? Because supposedly when he was getting loans, he had made statements about his properties and the value of his properties. And then he'd gotten loans based on the value of the properties. And then none of those loans were in default, right?

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He ended up paying back all of those loans. It wasn't any of the lenders who were complaining about all of this. New York State Attorney General Letitia James decided that she was going to go after him. And so she kind of jerry-rigged an entire case that violated the actual essence of the law because the law was not designed for any of this.

Chapter 7: What criticisms does the podcast raise about Marjorie Taylor Greene's statements?

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And then you'll recall that Letitia James had actually put out a tweet celebrating the amount that he was fined is $464,576,230.62. That was back in February of 2024. According to the court, it's insane that this pseudo-crime should come with a $500 million fine.

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According to the Wall Street Journal, a New York appellate court threw out a more than $500 million penalty against President Trump and his business empire in a sharply splintered ruling that paves the way for further proceedings before the state's highest court.

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The decision on Thursday from a five-judge panel of the New York Appellate Division's First Department is a significant legal boost for Trump, freeing him for now from a massive penalty that caused him financial headaches last year. Just as Peter Moulton wrote, quote, while harm certainly occurred, it was not the cataclysmic harm that can justify a nearly half billion dollar award to the state.

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And again, it was a sort of bizarre award in the first place, given the fact that the supposed crime was not committed against the state of New York. It was a misread of the law. Judge David Friedman said that the law that originally enabled Letitia James to sue President Trump was designed to protect consumers and the public marketplace from deception and consumer transactions.

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It was not designed to protect lenders. who were not the ones who were, no one was damaged. It was not designed to protect them from people fibbing to them with regard to the value of the collateral that they were putting up. As the court says, quote, A.G. James's suit turns section 6312 on its head.

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The leniency with which the courts have construed the requirements for pleading and proving fraud under that section, a leniency that has been extended for the purposes of facilitating the use of the provision to prevent the exploitation of unsophisticated consumers, investors, and small business, is here being used by Attorney General Letitia James to apply Section 6312 to a scenario to which that provision has never before been applied or even thought to apply.

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Judge Moulton writing for the court said, Presiding Judge Renwick and I find the Supreme Court correctly found the defendant's libel. We agree with the Supreme Court that the Attorney General acted within her lawful power. We find the Supreme Court properly ruled on claims that are timely. However, we would modify the remedy ordered by the Supreme Court.

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While the injunctive relief ordered by the court is well-crafted to curb a defendant's business culture, the court's disgorgement order, which directs defendants to pay nearly a half a billion dollars to the state of New York, is an excessive fine that violates the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution. So the court didn't go as far as

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the dissenting judge, David Friedman, and pointing out that this entire case was a sham. But it did say, you got to be kidding me, $500 million fine. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? So Letitia James put out a statement, quote, the first department today affirmed the well-supported finding of the trial court. Donald Trump, his company, and two of his children are liable for fraud.

Chapter 8: What strategies are Republicans employing to counter Democrats on crime?

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And that's the point that President Trump was making over at Truth Social, quote, total victory in the fake New York State Attorney General Letitia James case. I greatly respect the fact that the court had the courage to throw out this unlawful and disgraceful decision that was hurting business all throughout the New York state. Others were afraid to do business there.

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The amount, including interest in penalties, was over five hundred and fifty million dollars. It was a political witch hunt in a business sense, the likes of which no one has ever seen before. This was a case of election interference by the city and state. trying to show illegally that I did things that were wrong when, in fact, everything I did was absolutely correct and even perfect.

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Every single dollar was thrown out, even the penalties imposed on us by the corrupt judge, one of the most overturned in history, Arthur Engeron. I wasn't given a jury during the course of the trial, says President Trump, which lasted a long time, was not given one ruling in my favor by this political hack.

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But worse than him, if that's possible, was Letitia James, a corrupt and incompetent attorney general who only brought this case in order to hurt me politically. She's a Trump-dranged lunatic. I mean, so far, I can't really argue. They made me bond the outrageous sum, which never happened before and which cost me millions of dollars a month.

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It should never have been allowed to happen and everyone knew it. Importantly, that vote was five to zero. I'm so honored by Justice David Friedman's great words of wisdom, which should be read by everyone. I'd also like to thank the court for having the courage to make this decision, which is already going to go down as one of the worst business persecutions in the history of our country.

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Sadly, there are other cases against me that are equally disgraceful. And here he points out the judge, Juan Merchan, whose daughter collected millions of dollars in fees from crooked Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. That presumably would be with regard to the ruling on E.G. Carroll and the suggestion that President Trump was liable for some form of sexual assault.

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And then he points out other judges that he doesn't like and all the rest. But the bottom line is it's a big victory for Trump. And every time you fire at President Trump legally and you miss, it makes him stronger. I think there's a solid case to be made that the turning point in the 2024 election wasn't even the assassination attempt or even Joe Biden dropping out. It was the Mar-a-Lago raid.

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That Mar-a-Lago raid really turned the entire election on its head because people rightly believe that Trump was being politically persecuted. Eli Honig, who's the CNN legal analyst, certainly no ally of President Trump, says this is clearly a big, big win for Trump. This is a huge win for Donald Trump any way you cut it. And this is a stinging rebuke to the attorney general, Letitia James.

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The finding here, it's a very long, complicated ruling. But the bottom line is, while the finding of liability against Donald Trump can stand for now, at least, The damages award, which started at $350 million with interest, gets up close to $500 million. That is thrown out.

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