The Bill Simmons Podcast
Jon Stewart on a Knicks Disaster, the Soto Era, His ‘Daily Show’ Comeback, Bad Biden Coverage, and New York Fans | Plus: Is an OKC Title Now Inevitable?
23 May 2025
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons reacts to Game 2 of the WCF between the Timberwolves and the Thunder (2:25). Then, Bill is joined by comedian and late-night host Jon Stewart to talk about the Knicks, his beginnings as a comedian, and ‘The Jon Stewart Show’ on MTV (14:56). Finally, they discuss the evolution of late-night hosts, returning to hosting, authenticity in the media, and much more (53:02). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Jon Stewart Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo This episode is brought to you by Degree Deodorant. Grab the original Cool Rush at Walmart or Target today. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Coming up, OKC Minnesota game two, plus Jon Stewart on the Knicks and life next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where I put up a new rewatchables on Monday night. We did Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It is the third installment of Big Ass 70s Month. The last one will be on Monday night.
We are doing Heaven Can Wait, a beloved movie for a lot of us with Warren Beatty and Julie Crystal. So you have five days to watch that. You can watch all the Rewatchables episodes as video podcasts on Spotify, as on our Ringer Movies YouTube channel, or wherever you get your podcasts. So stay tuned for that. Coming up on this podcast, a long, long conversation with the one and only Jon Stewart.
because, and it's weird because I scheduled it before we knew that the Knicks were going to have a calamitous game one loss, but we talked about the Knicks and New York sports. We talked about his career. We talked about everything going on in the country, uh, the Mets, you name it. We talked about it. It's a long, long combo. So I wanted to run that as, uh,
you know, the majority of the podcast, but wanted to put a little something at the top after watching OKC Minnesota game two. So we're going to talk about that right after Pearl Jam and then a lot of Jon Stewart. It's all next. Let's bring in our guys, Pearl Jam. All right, recording this part of the podcast a little after 8.30, right after Game 2. OKC, Minnesota. OKC throttles Minnesota.
And I got to be honest, I'm a little concerned. I'm a little concerned for the rest of the playoffs because it feels like OKC, who is already a great team, who is already 68-14 during this season, they're plus 12.6. Point differential. In the playoffs, they're plus 14. I mean, we had lots of reasons to already be concerned that they were going to rip through the playoffs and be a juggernaut.
The Denver series going seven. Maybe open the window to, huh, maybe a minute. No. Their defense is just too good. This is turning into some 2000 Ravens kind of stuff, football analogy. 89 Pistons, which was a totally different team because they were really built around the nine-man concept. They didn't have the true superstar as great as Isaiah was.
This team is built around SGA, who just scores between 30 and 40 points a game no matter what. What the defense is doing. Um, how many guys you they're throwing traps, 45, 45 feet from the basket. Doesn't matter. He's still getting in the basket. Uh, I think at 38 or 40 tonight, he was just fantastic.
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