Chappell Roan Says All Parents Are Miserable. Is She Right? | Episode 21
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Who are the two guests debating motherhood on Call Her Daddy?
So who would you rather hear motherhood advice from? A 27-year-old childless lesbian pop star or a beloved seasoned mother? In my opinion, the choice is clear, but the internet stands divided. So last week, Alex Cooper had two very different women on her show call her daddy, and they both organically spoke about motherhood. And the timing was just too perfect because their opinions could have not been more contrasting, which you know is a beautiful part of life. It is a beautiful thing that we can have different opinions and share those on the same podcast. But this has certainly sparked a debate online about motherhood, about happiness in parenthood, and who exactly we should be listening to
when it comes to this type of wisdom. Is it somebody like Chapel Roan or is it somebody like Ellen Pompeo? And is there one formula for happiness and does it require being a parent? We're going to figure that out today. Now, before we dive into this story, make sure that you're following our podcast page and please rate the show if you're enjoying it. And if you want to come join us on tour, we will link all of our stops and the places to buy tickets in the description below. I hope I get to see a ton of you guys out on tour. We're hitting the road this spring. I think it'll be a ton of fun. So Ellen Pompeo, who is the star of Grey's Anatomy, which is, I think, one of the longest running shows on TV at this point, she technically went on Call Her Daddy first and brought up motherhood, but her interview was nowhere near as viral as Chapel Roan's, nor did it start the conversation. Chapel's did. So let's take a listen to this now viral clip.
All of my friends who have kids are in hell. I don't know anyone. I actually don't know anyone who's happy and has children at this age. I have one-year-old, three-year-old, four and under, five and under. I literally have not met anyone who's happy, anyone who has light in their eyes, anyone who has slept. No one.
What controversial statement did Chappell Roan make about parents?
Everyone is in hell. Everyone she knows is miserable. They don't even have light in their eyes as parents. I mean, that is a broad generalization. That is a very damning, sweeping statement that she is making. And it's even more concerning or hurtful or damning when you realize who exactly she's talking about. This all came up when Alex asked Chapel Roan about her friends back at home. She's from the Midwest, who she says that she is closest to. She always says those are the people that she maintains the best relationships with. And she goes into this whole conversation about how they have more normal lives compared to her, you know, pop star celebrity life now. They have houses, they're married, they have children.
And then she immediately jumps into saying that they're all in hell and that she has not met a happy parent, that all of her closest friends back home in the Midwest are miserable. Now, to be fair, a few minutes later, she does clarify that they're in hell because they love their children so much, they're dedicating so much of their time to their children, but I mean, truly, what a miserable, I guess that's the only word I can use, a miserable, broad, sweeping statement to make. But also, if you know Chapel Roan at all, if you have watched her on social media, if you listen to her music, you probably know that positivity really isn't her thing. Like, she's always bitching about something, like somebody's always out to get her, something's out to get her, she's always... talking smack about the paparazzi or the press or people who are interviewing her.
Like victimhood is kind of her M.O. at this point. And I honestly just laugh at it. But regardless of all of that, these comments in particular really struck a chord with people. And why wouldn't they? I mean, especially on a personal level, like imagine how hurtful it would feel to be one of these close friends that she's talking about and feeling like she is a safe person to vent to about the sleepless nights or the terrible twos and thinking that you can confide in her and share all parts of your life, the good and the bad.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
Who are the two guests debating motherhood on Call Her Daddy?
0:00–1:42
2
What controversial statement did Chappell Roan make about parents?
1:42–7:04
3
How did the public react to Chappell Roan's comments on motherhood?
7:04–10:59
4
What perspective did Ellen Pompeo share about motherhood?
10:59–14:35
5
Why is the debate about motherhood so polarizing online?
14:35–15:52
6
How are parents responding to Chappell Roan's claims on social media?
15:52–18:27
7
What can we learn from the contrasting views on parenthood?
18:27–25:57