Jen Psaki outlines the recent pushback against Donald Trump and Elon Musk from world leaders and even some of his own appointees. She is joined by Julia Ioffe of Puck News and Representative Eugene Vindman to discuss Trump's continued embrace of Putin as he pushes false claims that Ukraine started the war with Russia. Next, Jen is joined by NBC News Justice Correspondent Ken Dilanian and conservative attorney George Conway to discuss the implications of Trump appointing MAGA podcaster Dan Bongino as deputy FBI director. Then, Rep. Andy Kim joins Jen to discuss the national security concerns posed by Elon Musk's plan to use AI to assess responses by federal workers told to justify their jobs. Later, Jen is joined by Lieutenant General Mark Hertling to discuss Trump's purge of top generals and lawyers in the military, and what it reveals about his intentions. Finally, Jen shares a clip of her interview with Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker from the newest episode of her podcast "The Blueprint with Jen Psaki".Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psakihttps://bsky.app/profile/insidewithpsaki.msnbc.com
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Okay. I know Joy just ended her show by thanking her team, which is the most authentically Joy thing to do, I can tell you. And they are also a very incredible team. But I want to start this show tonight by thanking her. I want to thank her because she's done amazing work here. She does tell stories no one tells. She does that fearlessly on her show. but also for the person that she is.
And even before I met Joy Reid, and I didn't meet her until I started working her, I felt like I kind of knew her. I don't know if you relate to this. I felt like she was kind of talking directly to me through the screen. I know many of you watching at home know exactly what I mean. And then when I got here, she became my office neighbor, literally two doors down.
And she is the best office neighbor I could have asked for. I mean, she's somebody whose mind and her talent and her fierceness I admire so much. But she's also someone who I kind of just love running into in the hallway or chatting with on the set during specials, as my colleagues were just talking about, about anything, what's happening in the world, what's going on in her life.
And I'm going to miss all of that. And so thank you to Joy Reid. I just wanted to start there. In the meantime, I watched her show, as many of you probably did. And I want to start. I also want to do what I know she wants us to do, which is to start fearlessly in talking about what's in the news and not holding back. And that's what we always intend to do here, too, just like she does.
I do want to start tonight with the fast approaching deadline for federal workers to respond to what was a pretty wild Saturday email from unelected billionaire Elon Musk. I mean, according to Musk, who I will also note has literally absolutely zero authority to enforce this, all federal workers had until midnight tonight to reply to an email listing five things they accomplished last week.
Now, he said if they don't respond, they lose their jobs. Again, that's all according to an unelected billionaire who thought bringing a chainsaw on stage of CPAC last week was the right choice. That's what he with sunglasses on. But then today, Musk's bizarre email threat was backed up by none other than Donald Trump, who, of course, offered up this super clear, super helpful guidance.
Quote, if you don't answer, you're sort of semi-fired. or you're fired, semi-fired or fired. I'm sure that alleviated all of the confusion being felt by millions of federal employees that was brewing for the last couple of days. Now, today, the Office of Personnel Management came out and said that responding to this email is voluntary and workers will not lose their jobs if they don't respond.
But remember, all weekend, millions of federal workers were faced with this kind of bizarre choice. I mean, do they respond and risk must doing who knows what with the information, perhaps sending it through an AI system is one of the things that's been reported? Or do they not respond and risk losing their jobs?
Now, here's where it gets kind of a little interesting, because even before OPM issued their guidance that responding was voluntary, as I just said, some what I would consider unlikely characters actually pushed back. So the director of national intelligence and definitely a Trump devotee, Tulsi Gabbard, ordered all intelligence community officers not to respond.
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