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The Briefing with Jen Psaki

Signal & Noise: Trump Talks Third Term Amid Texting Scandal

01 Apr 2025

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Jen Psaki breaks down the calculation behind Donald Trump’s recent talk of an unconstitutional third term, which is just one of the many shiny objects he’s dangled before the press corps to distract from the scandal of Signalgate. Congressman Dan Goldman joins Jen to discuss why Trump’s musings about holding onto the White House beyond 2028 warrant our attention. Later Representative Jason Crow, a veteran and outspoken critic of Mike Waltz and Pete Hegseth’s careless security breach puts our military in jeopardy. Jen also examines the elections in Wisconsin and Florida, focusing on what could be a seismic shift in voter sentiment in one House district in the Sunshine State, where Josh Weil is polling even with MAGA State Senator Randy Fine. Weil joins Jen to talk about his campaign in a race that’s become a referendum on Donald Trump.  Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psakihttps://bsky.app/profile/insidewithpsaki.msnbc.com

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7.785 - 22.236 Jen Psaki

OK, I want to start tonight by showing you something that's actually pretty cool that's happening right now on the floor of the Senate. Because about an hour ago, Senator Cory Booker, you can see him right there, started speaking. And it seems like he's going to be speaking for quite a while.

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22.937 - 42.129 Jen Psaki

Senator Booker said he intends to disrupt the normal business of the Senate for as long as he is physically able to. He says he's doing it because he believes sincerely that the nation is in crisis. He said Americans are asking their lawmakers to acknowledge that what the Trump administration is doing is not normal. So that's what he intends to do.

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42.749 - 61.67 Jen Psaki

And he said he's going to stand right there until he no longer can. So we're going to keep a close eye on that tonight and just wanted to mention it right off the top because it's a pretty cool thing happening right now. Now, in the meantime, I want to talk about just how badly Donald Trump wants to change the subject right now.

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62.511 - 82.499 Jen Psaki

I mean, when something super embarrassing happens, that's what you want to do, right? That's true in life. And it's definitely true when the top members of your administration get caught texting about imminent war plans on an unsecure app and accidentally include a reporter on the chain. And trust me, Donald Trump knows this one is breaking through in a way that other scandals have not.

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83.179 - 94.224 Jen Psaki

Say what you want about him, and I promise you I will keep saying a whole lot of things. But perhaps more than anything else, the guy is a voracious consumer of television. And he knows how to read a poll.

95.478 - 117.917 Jen Psaki

In a brand new poll from CBS News released just yesterday, a full 75% of Americans said the Trump administration discussing military plans on Signal and accidentally including a journalist is a serious matter. You don't say. Now, in that same poll, 76% said it was not appropriate for the administration to use the app to discuss military plans.

119.275 - 130.218 Jen Psaki

But let's not forget, I mean, it is really, really hard to get three quarters of the country to agree on basically anything. But the American people seem to agree that this is a really big problem.

130.858 - 142.141 Jen Psaki

And for anyone who thinks this is some Beltway, Washington, inside baseball scandal, whatever you want to call it, I want you to watch what happens at a town hall in the deep red Indiana district of Congresswoman Victoria Sparks over the weekend.

144.347 - 201.416 Host

I just wanted to see what your plan is to address the issue with the administration talking about classified military operations and signals. And will you demand the immediate resignation of Pete Hexa? I would demand the immediate resignation of Pete Hegseth, Michael Walsh, and the rest of the group. So let me just address, no, I will not demand their resignation.

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