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The Briefing with Jen Psaki

Trump's Selective Hearing: The Impact and the Outrage

15 Apr 2025

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Jen Psaki breaks down the dangerous impact of Trump's actions on tariffs and immigration, explaining that while more people are outraged by the economic damage of tariffs, it's also important to pay attention to Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wrongful deportation and its implications. Jen is joined by Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries to discuss the turmoil Trump has caused on both fronts, including the unamerican prospect of deporting American citizens to foreign countries. Legal analyst Preet Bharara reacts to the Trump’s administration’s unwillingness to comply with the Supreme Court's order to return Mr.  Garcia, and then Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson joins to react to the arson at the Governor's mansion in Pennsylvania that targeted Gov. Josh Shapiro. Finally Jen reflects on the moment that the Ohio State Championship trophy fell apart in JD Vance’s hands. Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psakihttps://bsky.app/profile/insidewithpsaki.msnbc.com

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9.491 - 29.187 Host

Okay, the first thing I should tell you tonight is that House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries is standing by. I'm going to talk to him in just a few minutes. There's always a lot to talk with him about, but tonight the list is very, especially long. I mean, for starters, today Donald Trump made his most explicit comments yet about his openness to deporting American citizens.

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29.967 - 51.413 Host

And yes, his intention is to scare you. And yeah, the things he's saying are scary. I'm not going to minimize that. But his comments are also a reminder that aspiring dictators, of which he is one, who threaten to deport their own citizens, are not speaking from a position of strength. They are speaking from a position of weakness. And the cracks are showing all over the place right now.

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51.953 - 73.644 Host

And so tonight, I actually wanted to start in one of the places where the cracks are the biggest and most obvious. And that's the economy, where Trump's on-again, off-again tariffs have everyone from conservative Republicans to Wall Street billionaires to even rural farmers saying, what in the world is that guy doing? And we're seeing that sentiment very clearly in the polls, too.

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74.104 - 93.75 Host

I mean, in a new CBS YouGov poll that was released just yesterday, a majority of Americans said the economy is getting worse. And a growing number of Americans say Trump's policies are making them financially worse off. You can see the chart on the screen right now and you can see it shows a seven point jump on that question from just last month.

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94.889 - 119.624 Host

The majority of Americans are also against Trump's tariff and trade policy. But the news gets even worse for Trump. Get a load of this. When the people in this poll were asked who would benefit most from Trump's tariffs, three-quarters of Americans said the wealthy, and 71% said large corporations. I think everybody knows how popular the wealthy and large corporations are. Not very popular at all.

120.598 - 134.26 Host

Just imagine how well it's going to sit with the majority of Americans when Congress returns in May, just in a couple weeks, and focuses all their time on cutting taxes for the wealthy and large corporations, which is what they're going to do. But the upshot is this. Trump is underwater.

134.4 - 152.085 Host

He's losing popularity faster than any new president has in recent history, other than, well, of course, Donald Trump in 2017. But it's really not a mystery as to why. I mean, weirdly, not much has changed since James Carville proclaimed that one of the core messages for a presidential campaign was, it's the economy, stupid.

152.985 - 175.298 Host

And right now, Trump's actions have created an enormous amount of confusion and instability in the economy. I mean, he single-handedly issued a decree that Chinese imports will get tariffs of 20%. Wait, no, 104%. No, 125. Hang on. Now it's 145%. Oh, but smartphones and computers are exempt, at least for now. You can't make plans around that. No one can.

175.318 - 190.859 Host

Whether you're putting together a household budget or a business plan for a small business or a huge company. And some of the sectors that are being hit the hardest are the ones that elected him to begin with. Sectors like farmers in North Carolina. I mean, this was in the Washington Post this morning.

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