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The Briefing

Pt 2: Chris Minns on dodgy donations & working with One Nation

10 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

2.63 - 4.185 Chris Minns

A Listener Production.

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8.637 - 24.935 Chris Spyrou

Hey, Chris Brew with you and welcome to part two of my chat with New South Wales Premier Chris Minns. In part one, we covered his government's medicinal cannabis driving bill, the push to outlaw sex-selective abortions and the Ditch the Witch campaign targeting Victorian Premier Jacinta Allen.

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25.436 - 38.29 Chris Spyrou

In this part, part two, we pick up where we left off, One Nation's rise in the polls, why Minns is worried about his seat, his take on the federal budget and the donation scandal heading to court next week. Here's part two for you now.

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Chapter 2: What concerns does Chris Minns have about One Nation's rise in the polls?

43.062 - 60.919 Chris Spyrou

Last week you mentioned that you were worried about the rise of One Nation and that you're worried about the future of your seat in particular. What are you doing to combat, for example, the rise of One Nation or this idea of getting so huddled into politics the way that Pauline Hanson's trying to angle us and pit us against each other, really? Because that's what she's doing.

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60.983 - 65.208 Chris Minns

I was asked that question and I answered truthfully. People say, are you worried about the polls?

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Chapter 3: How does Chris Minns plan to address challenges posed by One Nation?

65.368 - 66.489 Chris Minns

I'm always worried about the polls.

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66.629 - 67.01 Chris Spyrou

Oh, you do.

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67.03 - 68.211 Chris Minns

You care about the polls. Absolutely.

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68.231 - 69.472 Chris Spyrou

Because usually we hear, ah, it's one poll.

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69.492 - 76.18 Chris Minns

We don't pay attention to the polls. No, no. I care about them for sure. Because, I mean, you don't want to lose. I mean, we care about what we're doing.

Chapter 4: What is Chris Minns' perspective on the recent Federal Budget?

76.36 - 94.366 Chris Minns

We just got elected in 2023. We're in our first term. We're in the midst of doing things that we think are really important for the state, like recruiting cops and putting money into public hospitals and... you know, building transport infrastructure, public education. We care about these things. And if we get punted in 2027, a lot of that will come to a screeching halt.

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94.466 - 109.013 Chris Minns

So we're in there, we're in the arm wrestle. I've got no problems debating any of our political opponents and saying that we think our way is better. We don't support privatisation. We're not trying to put a downward pressure on wages.

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Chapter 5: What criticisms does Chris Minns have regarding tax reforms in the budget?

109.353 - 125.422 Chris Minns

We're not trying to hurt families to try and make the rest of the economy work. Our view is that we're better together. And if we can grow the economy and give people opportunities in New South Wales, then we'll be in better shape. And we think we're the best people to do that. But ultimately, Chris, it'll be up to voters to make that call.

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125.662 - 128.487 Chris Minns

But we're in the arm wrestle and we're not going to shy away from it.

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128.467 - 143.832 Chris Spyrou

Putting your future goggles on, how are you going to navigate a relationship with One Nation members in Parliament? I mean, who knows what 2027 is going to bring, but if we look to South Australia, where they picked up for the first time, I think, four seats in the South Australian election, One Nation picked up four seats in that election.

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144.192 - 149.26 Chris Spyrou

They're predicting they're going to pick up a lot of seats in the Victorian election. New South Wales might follow, might not follow.

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Chapter 6: How does Chris Minns explain the repayment of political donations?

149.801 - 152.105 Chris Spyrou

How do you plan on navigating that relationship?

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152.345 - 162.962 Chris Minns

I take people as they come. I mean, I'm I wouldn't make a judgment about someone I've never met before on a personal level. Professionally and politically, we will not enter a coalition with them.

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Chapter 7: What is the process for flagging and repaying tainted donations?

163.503 - 184.6 Chris Minns

We won't enter an agreement with One Nation. They're antithetical to our beliefs. And I'd suspect they'd say the same thing about us, which is fair enough. And I'm just putting that out there now so that there's no, we're not laboring under a the misapprehension. I don't think that her remedy for New South Wales would work. We're a big economy. We're a growing economy.

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184.62 - 195.683 Chris Minns

We've got the fastest growing economy of any state in the country, twice as fast as the next fastest. And that's been done in the basis of a very difficult economic environment.

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Chapter 8: How does Chris Minns view the impact of One Nation on future elections?

195.663 - 212.828 Chris Minns

added to which I don't think that smashing wages and conditions for workers in New South Wales is the best way of giving everybody a stake in the future of New South Wales. And One Nation's opposed all of the wage increases, particularly the minimum wage increases that have been handed down by the Fair Work Commission. So...

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212.808 - 217.379 Chris Minns

For that and a million other reasons, we wouldn't enter a coalition with them. And I'm happy to say that right now.

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218.262 - 228.808 Chris Spyrou

She set her sights on Western Sydney. She made that very clear a few months ago. She said, Western Sydney, we're coming for you as well. How successful do you think she'll be in a multicultural seat like that come the federal election?

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228.788 - 247.54 Chris Minns

Federal election, state election? I don't know. I really don't know. I kind of leave this up to the voters. I think there's been a sea change in politics though and I'm definitely not coming on saying, oh no, no big deal. You can see a massive change in people's voting intentions either from the published polls or

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247.52 - 262.902 Chris Minns

or just anecdotally in the community, a lot of people that wouldn't have considered One Nation before are now. And they're speaking more freely about it too. Yeah, fair enough. Which is very interesting. But the pressure's on us just to get them back and say, you know, our plan's working and it's a better plan for the state.

263.063 - 276.362 Chris Spyrou

All right, zooming out, last month, the budget. My God. We had to cover the budget as well. As you can tell, I'm thrilled about the budget, love the budget. Good, good. You broke ranks though to criticise parts of the budget, especially around parts of the tax reform.

276.342 - 299.717 Chris Minns

Whether it's in this budget or it's in the future, we do need to make sure that we're doing everything we can to hand more money back to working Australians. The top marginal rate of 47%, as I said in Parliament last week, you're working Monday, Tuesday and half of Wednesday for yourself and then Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for the government. It's a tough burden for a lot of families to hit.

299.737 - 304.324 Chris Spyrou

Can you talk us through some of the criticisms you had towards what was handed down last month?

304.49 - 325.654 Chris Minns

I mean, the short answer is I'm happy to answer questions as they come to me. And that's the way I've sort of interacted as Premier. I was asked about income taxes in New South Wales and Australia, and I gave an honest answer. But the decisions around property in particular, in one of the most expensive cities in the world, have been long called for in our state from both sides of politics.

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