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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: The Law Be Damned

10 Feb 2025

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The new administration has been routinely breaking the law, including on Friday when it announced it was cutting funding for universities doing medical research, specifically in violation of legislation passed by Congress last year. And over the weekend, Trump, Musk, and Vance signaled a willingness to ignore court orders—a federal judge on Monday declared that the White House was doing just that in response to his order lifting a freeze on grant spending. Meanwhile, Trump designated himself the Supreme Leader over the Kennedy Center, and canned the national archivist perhaps because the agency happened to notice he was hoarding classified documents. Plus, at a time when we could use some decent role models, Jalen Hurts showed what it's like to win without being petty and consumed by grievance. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes JVL's Triad newsletter on how the Dems can win the USAID fight

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1.328 - 13.863 Advertisement Narrator

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23.234 - 41.012 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It's the fourth week of Trump 2.0, somehow only the fourth week, and it's Monday. So I'm back with our editor at large, Bill Kristol. How are you doing, Bill? Is it the fourth week? It's unbelievable, actually. Time flies when you're having fun, Tim, you know? Yeah. No doubt.

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41.052 - 57.378 Tim Miller

We need to start with the most important item of the weekend. We're going to get to Super Bowl stuff at the end. And obviously, we have the constitutional crisis to discuss and many other matters. It's tariff week again. It's going to be infrastructure week throughout the late 2010s and tariff week through the mid-2020s, I think.

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57.558 - 82.69 Tim Miller

But the burning subject on the mind of the shadow president, Elon Musk, over the weekend was whether or not you are white. It was a very fine statement. Twitter reply guys replied to Elon saying that Bill Kristol is Jewish, not white, correcting a tweet that Elon had sent. Elon replied, this idea that Jewish people are not white is ridiculous. Someone like Kristol is peak white, if anything.

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83.13 - 101.376 Tim Miller

That dude barely has any melatonin. Quick aside, melatonin is a hormone that helps regulate your sleep-wake cycle. Heavy MDMA usage creates a depletion of melatonin in the body, so maybe that's why melatonin was on Elon's mind, but melanin, I think, is the word he was looking for. So, Bill, do you want to clear things?

101.416 - 108.658 Tim Miller

I mean, obviously, very pressing matters for our shadow president this weekend, debating with his racist followers over your whiteness, but I wonder if you have any thoughts.

109.238 - 124.931 Bill Kristol

Yeah, I've been around Washington for 40 years, almost 40 years now, and I've never really discussed my melanin count or whatever. Melanin, is there a melanin count? I don't know, whatever it is. That's the guy I really focused on for some reason. I don't know. Yeah, it's wonderful, Lady Elon Musk. This was in the course of obviously...

125.451 - 150.34 Bill Kristol

remember that white supremacist they fired for like two minutes and on friday that kid yeah who had tweeted that he was he was a racist before being a racist was cool and musk was on the first to say he's got to be reinstated and i said it quite makes sense musk has no problem with white supremacism something like that and that led to him saying i'm white and i'm the stupidest person around i don't care what he said something like that you're a sub-tard i think sometimes that was nice that's also it's good that the way they they take to i mean i don't even know what that's not a word i guess but

150.88 - 169.007 Bill Kristol

But retard is a word and a word that some people find offensive, understandably, in discussing people who have various medical issues. They love using, you know, this is an interesting thing about, I think, MAGA world and Musk world, right? They love using words that are offensive words. to offend people.

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