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The Bulwark Podcast

Heather Cox Richardson: The Reality Show-ification of the Government

19 Dec 2024

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24.537 - 44.324 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. I couldn't be more delighted to welcome to the Bulwark the professor of history at Boston College, teaching 19th century American history. She also writes the newsletter Letters from an American on Substack with over 1.8 million subscribers. Her books include Democracy Awakening, Notes on the State of America.

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44.724 - 46.724 Tim Miller

It's Heather Cox Richardson. How are you doing?

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47.004 - 48.545 Heather Cox Richardson

I'm good and I'm so pleased to be here.

49.714 - 68.438 Tim Miller

So delightful. Obviously, given the fact that lots of people are reading your newsletter, many are familiar with you. But I kind of just wanted to start, for those who aren't, a little bit about your backstory. And then we'll get into the Elon of it all and what's our new... you know, kind of deputy shadow president. And we'll talk a little bit about that and historical parallels.

68.498 - 83.736 Tim Miller

But, you know, you, at least to me, I just emerged from the ether, right? It's like, hey, there's this professor that has a newsletter everybody reads. And I'm just curious, like how that kind of came to pass and what, you know, got you into all this.

84.54 - 100.727 Heather Cox Richardson

So it's funny because I shouldn't maybe use the past tense, but I will. I was a pretty well-known American history professor. I had a number of books out, very well-received books out in American political and economic history. But you know, in many ways in our country, our different professions are siloed.

100.927 - 121.597 Heather Cox Richardson

So while I think you would have been hard-pressed to find an academic historian who didn't know who I was, the crossover to the popular audience had been, you know, the Washington Post, the Guardian, places like that, where again, I wrote a lot. I even had a column for Salon years ago under Dave Daly, which was, you know, a really interesting experience. Yeah, he was a great, really great editor.

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