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The Bulwark Podcast

Liam Donovan and Brendan Boyle: The Great Grift

08 Jan 2025

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Trump talked a lot more about Hannibal Lecter during the campaign than one of his actual top priorities: extending his 2017 tax cuts. With those $4.5 trillion in cuts set to expire by the end of the year, that's the first major item of business for congressional Republicans. But how they get paid for will affect people's lives. Tim takes a deep dive into the reconciliation process that would allow Republicans to make deep cuts to programs without having to work with Democrats. Plus, the billionaire plutocrats staffing the new administration and the potential for corruption.  Rep. Brendan Boyle and Liam Donovan join Tim Miller.

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0.009 - 22.116 Tim Miller

Everybody, a couple of notes. First up, there was the Palisades fire in Los Angeles that started last night. There's now expanded to four or five fires around LA, Southern California. And so just want to send our thoughts out to the folks that are involved in that. At some level, people that have had to evacuate. I've had some friends who have had to evacuate.

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22.576 - 43.54 Tim Miller

Producer Katie Cooper is out there and has been posting some pictures of some fires that look a little too close for comfort for me. we're hoping for the best for everybody on that front. I had the most minor experience with this in Oakland. We had the apartment building right behind mine caught on fire. And, uh, we had to evacuate one night, go to a hotel and man, it's scary stuff.

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43.62 - 61.26 Tim Miller

Just kind of monitoring your phone, trying to look at the app and trying to see where the fire is expanded to, whether your house is in the, uh, is in the target zone. So it is tough. I was already planning on doing a climate episode here in the next week or two. And so, uh, we'll be doing that and having a longer talk about this.

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61.28 - 77.298 Tim Miller

As far as today's schedule, just a reminder on Wednesdays, I do the political fluffery with my buddies, Sarah and JVL over on the next level podcast. Every Wednesday, it's out Wednesday late afternoon, usually. So make sure you subscribe to that feed or you go check it out. on YouTube.

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77.678 - 97.693 Tim Miller

We'll be doing the Gulf of America silliness, the Aline Cannon horrors, Joe Biden's interview with Susan Page, all that kind of political stuff we'll be doing with Sarah and JVL on the next level. Today on Wednesday, sometimes we'll be doing fun, longer form interviews about various topics. Today I wanted to do a doubleheader and just get deep on the budget stuff.

97.753 - 119.959 Tim Miller

Because like the actual substance of what is going to impact people's lives this year is the immigration bill, the tax bill, and potentially the government shutdown. It's all related to this congressional, whatever you want to call it, process called reconciliation. And I've noticed I've been throwing around the word reconciliation a lot. And some of you might not even really quite get it.

120.379 - 139.828 Tim Miller

So I brought on my friend Liam Donovan to give us kind of a 101 of what is reconciliation. And then the Democrats budget ranking member, Brendan Boyle in the house to talk about kind of the Democrats strategy and what sort of leverage they have on this. So we're getting nerdy on budget stuff. But, you know, I got some jokes in there for you. We do some bro talk at the end. It's great.

140.088 - 171.124 Tim Miller

So stick around. You'll enjoy it. Up next, Liam Donovan and Congressman Brendan Boyle. Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We've got a budget doubleheader today. Up first, a former aide to Senate Republicans, he's a political analyst, lobbyist, and co-host of the Lobby Shop Podcast. Also an active opiner on X. And a buddy, Liam Donovan. How you doing, man?

171.464 - 193.204 Tim Miller

Tim, it's good to see you. Thanks for having me. It's been a while. It has. Long overdue. Long overdue. First inaugural visit to the pod. I've called you into service today as a Hill nerd expert, particularly on reconciliation. Because what we've got coming down the pike, you know, in the non- renaming the Gulf of Mexico category, you know, in the seriousness category.

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