Michael Weiss: The Vice President Is Looking Pretty Stupid

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What is the initial deal with Iran and its implications?

Tim Miller 0:13
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We've got a doubleheader for you today in segment two. Maybe the dreamiest congressional candidate will be joining us, so stick around for that, particularly if you're on the video podcast. But first, slightly less dreamy, but a bit charming in his own way. He's on Substack at the Foreign Office. He's the author of ISIS, Inside the Army of Terror. He's an editor at The Insider, a Russia-focused independent media outlet. It's Michael Weiss. How are you doing, handsome?

How does Trump’s rhetoric affect U.S.-Israel relations?

Michael Weiss 0:43
Slightly less dreamy, Michael Weiss. That's got to go on a business card. Slightly less dreamy.
Tim Miller 0:48
I mean, have you seen Sam Forstag? My stars. No. He's running in Montana. Oh, my goodness.
Michael Weiss 0:56
Okay. It's more for your wife, anyway. How many Chalamets does he get in the Tim Miller scale of dreaminess?
Tim Miller 1:03
Yeah, well, he's not even on the Chalamet scale. He's not even on that. He doesn't even make the cut. Yeah, it's not my... Not your cup of tea. Yeah, not my model. But just like objectively speaking, you know, this is a man. Like Chalamet is, you know, kind of a wee lad.
Yeah.
Michael Weiss 1:20
My wife was walking behind him in Central Park.

What strategies is Sam Forstag using to unite voters?

Michael Weiss 1:24
Oh, God, jealous. His legs, she said, are basically the size of toothpicks. All right, Michael, don't get me excited this early in the morning. What did they say? The camera adds like 100 points of testosterone. So, yeah, I mean...
Tim Miller 1:40
Okay, I'm getting verklempt. Speaking of testosterone. Hot and bothered, yes. Lack of testosterone. Trump has got what you said at the sub stack. It looks like the deal that is emerging, the MOU, is quite similar or even worse than something that Trump called the worst and dumbest deals ever made, being the JCPOA. Why don't you just talk about what you know at this point? We haven't actually seen the text of the deal, which is telling in its own right. The White House put out a talking points paper. I really enjoyed the first sentence of the talking point, which is this is great for the American people who are concerned about being nuked by the Iranians. So this is great for the American family, actually.
Tim Miller 2:25
Family. Yeah. If you're a family in St.

How does the current political climate impact working-class Americans?

Tim Miller 2:27
Charles, Missouri, and you were worried that the Iranians might put a nuclear warhead onto a ballistic missile and fire it at your farmstead, then you can just sleep easy tonight. So that's point one.
Michael Weiss 2:41
It says they're going to feel relief at the pump and at the grocery store. Not sure why the grocery store factors into Iran and the settlement of the war. But yeah, I mean, so we don't know a heck of a whole lot because, as you say, the U.S. has refused to release the MOU. J.D. Vance has described it as about a page and a half. So let's just back up a second and underscore this thing is not a peace agreement. This isn't any kind of treaty or some kind of lasting agreement. This is basically an agreement to extend the ceasefire for another 60 days and to spend those 60 days trying to get to something more substantive and permanent, including on the nuclear issue and including on presumably, you know, war in Lebanon, a whole range.
Michael Weiss 3:29
sort of basket of interrelated things. What do we know about this thing based on what J.D. Vance and Jared Kushner told reporters on a background call yesterday? I wasn't on the call, so I'm not bound by any background covenant here. I just had a transcript of it leaked, and I could just tell you what J.D. and what Jared said.
Tim Miller 3:49
Now, it's interesting that Jared was on the call.
Michael Weiss 3:51
Yeah.
Tim Miller 3:52
Does he have a job?

What are the criticisms of the Democrats' messaging?

Tim Miller 3:54
What is his job exactly?
Michael Weiss 3:55
Well, I mean, he's like... Plenty potentiary of the president for multiple portfolios. I mean, he's doing Ukraine stuff. He's doing leveraged buyouts with the Saudis. I mean, he's up to his eyeballs in geopolitical diplomacy. And it sounds like big business. And that's probably one of the reasons why he's selling this.
Tim Miller 4:17
That's a news story that somebody that doesn't work for the government who doesn't have a security clearance is briefing the press on background without their name attached. Not only that, but- Feels like that's actually a bigger news story than this bullshit spin that he's offering on background.

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