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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1021: Josh Barro: Total Idiocy

15 Apr 2025

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Trump & company want to turn us into Taiwan circa 1985. But the brilliant minds behind the idea of intentionally weakening the dollar are prioritizing making America a good place to manufacture rather than a good place to live. If the administration stays on this track, this country will have lower incomes, higher inflation, and weaker buying power—and more expensive beer and tomatoes. Maybe we were better off with Jared there. Meanwhile, in the Rust Belt, some Dems are arguing for a smarter version of tariffs. Plus, Abrego Garcia's union brothers want him home and Trump wants to fight with Harvard. Rep. Chris Deluzio and Josh Barro join Tim Miller. show notes Rep. Deluzio's NYT piece arguing for smarter tariffs Josh's NYT piece on how Trump is giving Dems a gift with his tariffs

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67.551 - 87.005 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bored Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We've got a Tariffpalooza doubleheader today that I'm really excited about. In the second segment, it's Congressman Chris Deluzio, who I might have sent a little snarky tweet about last week, and so I was thrilled that he's willing to come on and hash it out with me.

87.691 - 101.723 Tim Miller

But up first, he writes the very serious newsletter on Substack and co-hosts the legal podcast Serious Trouble with Popat, a.k.a. Ken White. It is Josh Barrow, also fresh off Coachella. So we'll see how well our brains are popping for you guys today.

102.103 - 103.064 Josh Barro

I'm doing great, Tim.

103.504 - 104.084 Tim Miller

You're at 100?

104.345 - 117.615 Josh Barro

I'm totally refreshed. Really? I'm happy for you. What did you do yesterday? Did you get a massage or something? Green juice? No, I took two flights. I drove to the Inland Empire from Coachella and then flew through Salt Lake City to New York. Okay. Nice Delta Airlines day.

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