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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1032: Tony Blinken: America Alone

30 Apr 2025

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For 80 years, the United States built strong economic, military, and political alliances around the world. But in just 100 days, that trust has been dismantled, and our friends are now working without us to forge new relationships. Former Secretary of State Antony Blinken joins Tim to discuss how hard it will be to rebuild after what Trump has done—plus the Biden administration's response to the Gaza protests, and the continuing questions over why Biden did not step aside earlier. And, Alex Wagner joins from Hungary to discuss the mass protests there. Tony Blinken and Alex Wagner join Tim Miller. show notes Alex's "Trumpland" podcast Tim on Trump's ABC News interview

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13.514 - 18.018 Tim Miller

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30.202 - 51.012 Tim Miller

Hey guys, we got a double header today that is focused on foreign policy. So if you want to go deep on all the insane stuff that's happening in politics, like Donald Trump's interview with ABC last night, where he got tricked by a Photoshop image of Kilmar Abrego Garcia's knuckles, or we're going to talk about the absurd spin coming from the Republicans.

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51.032 - 70.963 Tim Miller

We got all your politics over on the next level comes out on Wednesday evenings. So make sure to subscribe to that feed and check it out. This pod. As I mentioned, foreign policy only. We've got Joe Biden, Secretary of State, Antony Blinken. I have so much to go over with him. And then in segment two, my friend Alex Wagner is just back from Hungary where she was covering the protests there.

70.983 - 103.638 Tim Miller

And I got to tell you, it's just so inspiring. It's something that I just haven't been following closely. And so I'm happy that she went over there to see it firsthand to give us a report. So do stick around for that. So there you go. Big show. Hope you enjoy it. Up next, Tony Blinken. Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller.

103.698 - 119.865 Tim Miller

Could not be more delighted to welcome former Secretary of State during the Biden administration, Tony Blinken. How you doing? Are we in the post-Secretary of State world? Are we going by Secretary, Tony? Do you have another preferred name? We're going by Tony. Tim, it's great to see you. Back to Tony. All right. It's good to see you, too. I don't know if you know this.

119.925 - 124.147 Tim Miller

I was John Huntsman's spokesman for a while. Yes, I do. Yes, I'm used to that.

124.727 - 151.247 Tim Miller

diplo speak so i'm going to use that experience to try to break you down over the course of the interview you know break you into normal john's one of the best so he is good but he you know he had a little bit of diplo talk we had to try to retrain his brain to get from from diplomat to candidate and we're going to try that for diplomat to podcast you know it's a little different good the world is so fucking crazy that uh there you go this is the first word that's probably something that wouldn't be part of diplo speak exactly

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