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The Bulwark Podcast

'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral'

27 Dec 2024

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Do you have to pick a side in politics? That was the question Reason Magazine, the flagship publication of the libertarian movement, invited The Bulwark to debate. In a panel moderated by Reason features editor and Across the Movie Aisle co-host Peter Suderman, Sarah and Tim debated picking sides with Reason editors-at-large Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie. The debate was sharp, occasionally heated, enlightening, and definitely amusing. The results were . . . resounding. Watch for yourself.

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70.071 - 95.316 Peter Suderman

I'm Peter Suderman, I'm gonna be your moderator tonight, and full disclosure, I do work at Reason. But I also appear on a podcast that is run through the bulwark, so I'll try to be fair and not take sides. However, that might be a little bit complicated given our resolution, which is you don't have to pick a side in politics. So if I'm not taking sides, am I actually kind of taking sides?

95.336 - 109.263 Peter Suderman

I think that's the sort of thing that's gonna come up in tonight's debate. Now, because this is a debate, there will be a winner, and that winner will be decided by you, the audience. The way this is gonna work is there are going to be two votes.

109.783 - 130.529 Peter Suderman

The first vote, you've either already voted or you should vote right now, and then there's gonna be another vote after the debate happens, and the team that wins will be the team that moves the most number of people towards their position. So if you have not yet cast your vote, Please follow the instructions on the screen and vote now.

131.664 - 155.353 Peter Suderman

As you do that, I want you to think just a little bit about the resolution before us tonight. What does it mean to pick a side in politics? We are gathered here this evening in Washington, DC, where national politics is dominated by two political parties that are constantly asking you to pick a side. When Americans go to the voting booth, most of them pull the lever for one of those two parties.

155.693 - 176.426 Peter Suderman

And in the vast majority of races, one of those two parties wins. Fundamentally, voting in a democracy is about picking sides. The very structure of American politics all but forces you to do so. And if you decide not to, are you throwing away your influence? Are you abdicating your democratic responsibility?

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