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The Bye Round With James Graham

Ivan Cleary's BOMBSHELL Panthers Exit... Could Nathan Be Next To Go? Luke Metcalf's Future & Magic Round Preview

13 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What does Ivan Cleary's departure mean for the Panthers?

0.031 - 11.774 James Graham

Charlie, I'm a bit nervous to ask you this question, but I'm going to anyway. Have you heard of the five Ps? Now, please treat this ad with respect.

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13.037 - 22.121 Charlie White

What, people, place, person? No, I don't know what the five P's are. It couldn't be proper preparation prevents poor performance, could it, Jimmy?

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22.161 - 41.85 James Graham

You're spot on, Charlie. I thought you were going to go somewhere in the gutter with that one, knowing you as I do. But that is exactly what the Labricks app does. You can check your last five performances from each team and each player, which is all available for you there on the Labricks app.

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41.83 - 50.601 Charlie White

It helped me just on the weekend, Jimmy, when I saw Tolu Kula had scored in every one of his last five matches and I whacked him in my multi. And guess what he did, Jimmy?

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50.961 - 69.283 James Graham

He scored again, didn't he? Sure did. We can all remember a day, Charlie, when this was so difficult. You've got your Lab Brooks app open on one page. You've got your Internet Explorer on the other. You're looking through previous results, going through previous try scorers, looking at all the records. Well... That has gone.

Chapter 2: How does Luke Metcalf's future impact the NRL landscape?

70.004 - 80.835 James Graham

Convenience and the Ladbrokes app all in the one place, all for you to check previous performances. It is absolutely a sensational feature.

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81.116 - 94.99 Charlie White

It is. It's on the new Ladbrokes app as well, the fast Ladbrokes app. But of course, Jimmy T's and C's apply and available on the website. You win some, you lose more. For free and confidential support, visit gamblinghelponline.org.au.

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94.97 - 102.221 James Graham

We love having the team at Hyundai on board, and we've got some big announcements coming from them right now, Charlie.

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102.401 - 104.004 Charlie White

That's right, Jimmy. It's that time of year again.

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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Nathan Cleary potentially leaving the Panthers?

104.044 - 116.843 Charlie White

No, not the EFS, but the pre-EFS. That's the pre-end of financial year sale. It certainly is, Jimmy, and it's just as good as the end of financial year sale. But guess what? You don't have to wait for EFS. You can have it now.

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116.823 - 117.884 James Graham

Why wait?

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Chapter 4: What are the key points in the Origin selections for Game 1?

117.905 - 129.801 James Graham

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130.082 - 146.104 Charlie White

Absolute bargain, Jimmy. And with Hyundai's pre-office, you can enjoy early deals on a range of new and demonstrator models. So for deals without gimmicks, we'll head to your participating Hyundai dealer today.

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146.168 - 160.152 James Graham

Hello and welcome everybody to another edition of the Buy Ram podcast. Today, I mean, I'm joined by Charlie White. I've got a little... Little quote on the value of experience.

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Chapter 5: What can we expect from the Magic Round this year?

160.292 - 164.896 Charlie White

Nice of you to put this quote here. The only source of knowledge is experience by Albert Einstein.

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165.216 - 169.14 James Graham

Yeah, just a little timely reminder to you that experience counts for something.

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169.42 - 171.883 Charlie White

I would say Albert Einstein, a bit controversial.

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171.963 - 182.773 James Graham

Yeah, a little bit. He's not as good as everyone thinks he is. I don't know, he did a lot. Anyway, we've got bigger, more pressing priorities to get stuck into, Charlie.

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Chapter 6: How are the Panthers planning for the future after Cleary?

184.222 - 208.896 James Graham

Out of seemingly nowhere, I mean, it's easy to look back and connect a few dots. Isaiah Yosin, he's definitely going to go to market. But Coach Cleary, press conference, 2 o'clock, announces he's going and Peter Wallace will take the reins at the end of his current deal, 2027. This is not good for the rest of the comp in the short term.

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208.876 - 216.248 Charlie White

yeah, this just feels like it's going to be the Panthers load up these next two years and just try to go bang, bang, win another two titles.

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Chapter 7: What are the latest updates on team strategies for the upcoming matches?

217.63 - 237.867 Charlie White

First of all, Ivan Cleary, we just finished watching his press. We literally just watched it. He is such an incredible leader. You can just tell when he talks the way he can explain things and the way he considers the whole group and everything. He said in that press conference that – He felt as a leader, it was time for him to move on. He's going to pursue other opportunities.

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238.108 - 248.957 Charlie White

And it does sound a little bit like it's about creating more of a work-life balance. I did get the feel of that from hearing him talk. But wow, what a man, what a coach.

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Chapter 8: What are the biggest storylines heading into the Magic Round?

248.937 - 257.434 Charlie White

Like, it's such a shame for the NRL that he's decided to move on. It sounds like he might even go down a corporate angle for himself moving forward. But, yeah, what a legend he is, Jimmy.

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257.795 - 274.324 James Graham

Yeah, well, a funny thing that you can take from the press conference, it was almost like he was pitching for another job in a sort of advisory role, wasn't it? He was like, oh, well, hang on a minute, did we – Did we speak about that? He looked at the chairman about it. We'll still figure out the final details after that.

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274.404 - 301.557 James Graham

Basically, the final details meaning the financial compensation for that. But we can talk about that privately, maybe, chairman. Kind of got forgot that he was in a press conference. Yeah, he did. It was almost like he forgot he was in a press conference. But, no, look, like he said, today's not the day for congratulations and all that, but... Like, one of the best coaches ever.

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302.799 - 327.767 James Graham

Is he the best coach ever? Well, you look at him, he's outachieved what Bellamy and Robinson have done at their respective teams in terms of premierships won. Premierships? take that, even with that, he's redefined what it means to be great, to be amazing, to be the best of the best.

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328.268 - 345.145 James Graham

When the Roosters went back to back in 2018, 2019, it had been such a long time since anybody achieved that feat, and they did it, and they were being lauded as arguably the best NRL team of the NRL era.

345.125 - 374.085 James Graham

ever and then along come the Penrith Panthers and just again reimagine what it mean what it mean to be the best what it mean to be great like they doubled it like two like three off the three peak and think about some of those seasons that they've had and it's not over yet it is not over yet by any stretch this year and next year they are primed to win it and

374.065 - 390.409 Charlie White

Do you know what I thought was brilliant, Jimmy, as well today is they took all the speculation out of what's next by bringing Peter Wallace up there and announcing him at the same time. That gets rid of everyone coming out and being like, oh, what's this going to happen? Could Andrew Webster go there from the Warriors? Could Kevin Serrato leave?

390.429 - 397.44 James Graham

Yeah, the ex-Pammer Flinks. There's the guy who's gone to Perth, the – Ben Gardner. Ben Gardner, yeah.

397.6 - 409.083 Charlie White

It just creates this clear pathway and it just has pure clarity over the situation and takes so much outside noise away from it. And it helps those November 1 guys as well.

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