The Cave of Apelles

Single or Whole Beat? | Wim Winters Uncovers how Beethoven has been Performed WRONG for Centuries

15 Jan 2023

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Have you ever wondered why classical music always seems to be performed too fast in the concert halls? Wonder no more. Wim Winters, an organist and pianist from Belgium, challenges modern performance practice of Beethoven, Chopin and others from the Classical period via his controversial YouTube channel Authentic Sound. Winters' point is simple: the metronome indications of works by the likes of Beethoven have been misread for more than a century, a claim made evident by historical proof that the current tempi is up to twice as fast as the original (!) Pianists today need physiotherapy in their attempts to follow painstaking speeds and even the fastest fall short. Among Winters' numerous reconstructions are Beethoven's Fifth Symphony and Moonlight Sonata, at first appearing shockingly slow. But on closer inspection, could it be that only a return to the original tempi will release the true emotional potential of the Western musical canon? 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 01:34 Authentic Sound and modern performance practice 05:15 Choice of tempo and the certainty of metronome marks 08:38 The original tempo indication vs Single or Half Beat 15:13 Modern performances: even the fastest fall short 19:21 "Beethoven's broken metronome" 21:43 Historical sources for Whole Beat 27:11 When did performance speeds increase and why? 32:58 Can you play faster than humanly possible? Win €5.000! 34:21 What is physically possible to play and perceive? 40:00 Life-long injuries, worn-out brains and loss of joy 45:14 Whole beat is natural for us 51:00 "Mozart is being killed" (1839 warning) 54:50 Cooperation with Lorenz Gadient 1:01:56 Whole Beat reviving classical music 1:09:40 "When you slow down, you play faster" 1:14:11 Paradigm shifts are initiated by outsiders This episode featured Wim Winters & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a reproduction of the Beethoven portrait by Joseph Karl Stieler. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — [email protected]

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The Cave of Apelles

Single or Whole Beat? | Wim Winters Uncovers how Beethoven has been Performed WRONG for Centuries

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13:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

10:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

12:00H | 20 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

2ª PARTE | 06 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 22 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 04 MAR 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

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