The Chuck ToddCast
Jasmine Crockett Interview: Why Trump Won, Fixing The Democratic Party
12 May 2025
Chuck opens with an analysis of President Trump's controversial upcoming Middle East trip, focusing on reports that Trump will receive a luxury Boeing airplane as a gift from Qatar. He characterizes this as potentially "the most corrupt bargain a president has ever made," questioning the ethics and legality of such an arrangement while examining Trump's pattern of personal enrichment in office. The discussion extends to Trump's cryptocurrency ventures, the growing influence of Gulf states in American politics, and the administration's unorthodox approaches to foreign policy and homeland security.Then he’s joined by a rising star in the Democratic party, Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett. She provides insights into her rapidly growing Dallas district and discusses the economic benefits of immigration that contrast sharply with current policies. Crockett, known for her viral moments in congressional hearings, offers a candid assessment of the partisan circus in the House Oversight Committee and the ideological divide within the Democratic Party. The conversation delves into factors behind Trump's victory, whether racism and misogyny impacted Kamala Harris's campaign, and the complex political landscape in Texas, including potential opportunities for Democrats if Ken Paxton defeats John Cornyn in a future primary.Finally, the episode concludes with an "Ask Chuck" segment addressing why abortion has faded from national discourse despite its continued importance.Timeline:00:00 Introduction01:55 Trump’s first planned overseas trip is to the middle east02:50 Trump to receive a luxury Boeing airplane as a gift from Qatar04:50 Most corrupt bargain a president has ever made07:10 Whether it’s illegal or not, it’s a terrible look08:20 Trump didn’t want to wait to get a new Air Force One09:15 Trump believes he’s untouchable10:30 Trump’s crypto token is purely a bribery scam12:30 Will any elected Republicans stand up to Trump?14:30 Trump views personal enrichment as a commission 16:00 The gulf states are openly bribing American politicians17:45 It was good that Rubio and Vance intervened in India/Pakistan conflict19:50 Homeland security is running campaign ads with taxpayer dollars22:30 Trump’s Iran deal won’t get done until after his middle east trip24:30 Taking a plane as a gift feels like a bad movie plot25:25 Jasmine Crockett joins the Chuck ToddCast! 25:25 Tour of TX-30 (Dallas) 28:55 TX-30 is a hub for aviation 31:45 Dallas is growing exponentially 33:40 How can St. Louis be revitalized? 37:15 Immigrants produce economic dynamism and we're treating them horribly 39:45 How important are viral moments for political communications 43:25 The partisan circus in the oversight committee 44:40 We have people in government that don't understand how it works* 45:40 DOGE hearing became about trans people competing in fencing 47:25 Is it a generational divide or ideological divide in the Democratic party 48:25 Some members cling to the institutions while they're burning around them* 50:10 State of the Union displayed the differences of approach between members 51:25 How did Democrats end up in this situation? 53:15 Why did Trump win? 55:25 How much did racism and misogyny factor into Kamala Harris losing? 56:40 Did Harris's background as a prosecutor help or hurt her? 59:10 Trump's name being on buildings sold the public on his business acumen 1:01:05 Should Harris take another shot at the presidency?* 1:02:25 Democratic voters don't want "establishment" candidates 1:04:10 Democrats are fighting an uphill battle 1:05:10 Is Texas a 3 party state with two Republican wings? 1:06:10 If Ken Paxton beats John Cornyn, the Texas senate seat will be in play 1:08:40 Did Democrats miss the moment in Texas? 1:10:25 Will the Luka trade leave a lasting mark on Dallas? 1:11:10 Is she running for oversight chair? 1:11:35 Her advice for Hakeem Jeffries1:12:45 Chuck's thoughts on interview with Jasmine Crockett 1:13:15 Ask Chuck 1:13:30 Why has abortion disappeared from the national discourse? 1:16:30 Please let the Wizards get the #1 pick and Cooper Flagg(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements)
Full Episode
OK. Happy Monday. Welcome to another episode of the Chuck Todd cast. I have a fascinating guest today that I think you're going to be very interested in hearing from. It's Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett from Dallas. My guess is if you haven't heard an interview of her.
then and you've only seen clips, you may have drawn a conclusion about her based on snippets, based on social media, based on a tick tock, based on this. Well, here's what you're going to get today. You're going to get 40 plus minutes getting to know the congresswoman. This isn't going to be short snippets and sound bites and all of that. And I just have a feeling that if you have not
had spent a long time listening to her and just have a sort of quick take, hot take about her. After you listen to this interview, you will file those hot takes where they belong, which is Probably somewhere in the garbage. Anyway, the point is, I think you'll learn a lot and listen to the conversation through the premise.
And I'm going to have a couple of conversations over the next week about this because she's she's making one recommendation of how Democrats should deal with this current moment. I'm going to have Ro Khanna on. He's going to make another. He's going to have another take. You've heard other Democrats make their take. And that's there really is an interesting debate that is happening.
You're going to see it, I think, over the next couple of years, frankly, through in the run up to the eventual actual start of the presidential primary campaign on the Democratic side. But of just what tactic is better? Do you need to be Trump light? Do you need to be, you know, a bit hot? if you will, on social media? Or is this a time to actually zag just as Trump is zigging?
But before I get to that, I think we should talk about the week ahead that we're going to have in politics and where the news is going to be made. President Trump is going overseas. It's his first official overseas trip, even though he actually took one to the Pope's funeral. That was an unplanned. This was the plan.
And just like he did in his first term, he decided to make Saudi Arabia his first stop. And the relationship that he has developed with Saudi Arabia and UAE and Qatar is is quite close. And he's let's just be honest, he's blurring the lines between public and private That it's it's not even subtle. Right. It's it's it's so it's so blatant.
But I think at the heart of what you're going to see this week and the shiny metal object of the week is going to be the news that was broken over the weekend. And we had already gotten hints of this. And that is the. The fact that the president of the United States is about to accept the largest gift that any entity has ever given the United States.
And what if I told you that this gift was coming from the chief patron of the terrorist organization known as Hamas? You remember Hamas. This is the group behind the killing and kidnapping of Israelis and Americans on October 7th. This is a terrorist organization that has the blood of Americans on their hands, the blood of Israelis on their hands, the blood of other Palestinians on their hands.
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