The Container: A Circling and Authentic Relating Podcast
Episodes
Awaken Through Poetry w/ Will Jefferson
01 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Will Jefferson is a writer, coach, and facilitator who brings poetry into vivid connection and conversation with everyday life.Interested in his Poetr...
German Mystic Teaches Her Methods w/ Marei Christenson
25 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Container is launching a new adventure: Mystical Creatures.On this journey, Jonathan and Marei are going to deep dive into mystical practice, that...
Tools for Awakening w/ Daniel Schmidt
19 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Daniel Schmidt, the documentarian behind the fantastic Samadhi film series, shares the best practices he's found for spiritual awakening. This in...
What is Stemless? w/ Harmony, James, and Sahil
05 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Stemless is a radical new entry to the world of the relational arts, mindfulness, and social meditation. It takes us out into uncharted waters, where ...
The Circle Is a Reality Playground w/ Andrew Venezia
18 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The brilliant Andrew Venezia comes on the podcast to talk about the many layers of Circling. He takes us from the basics of an interbeing practice to ...
Circling and the Occult w/ Ben Hodgson
04 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Can circling bring us into deep mystical and magical practice? Certainly, yes. And Ben Hodgson comes into The Container to tell us just exactly how th...
Circling Commune Experiment w/ MoP
21 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Month of Possibilities (MoP) experiments with living in radical connection. Using the practice of circling as the foundation, they recently spent ...
The Ultimate Group Transformation Process w/ Angelo DiLullo
07 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Angelo Dilullo is an author, podcast host, and teacher who brings a down-to-earth reality to the topic of awakening.His podcast Simply Always Awake is...
The Book of Circling with Marc Beneteau
11 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Marc “Marco” Beneteau is a major force in the Authentic Relating and Circling world. His newsletter has become a must-read feature of the field, a...
Five Books
26 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
These five weird books will change your life. This isn’t a list of great books you’ve already read. No, no. These are a bit off the beaten path, b...
Boundaries and Circling
12 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Boundaries define us. They draw the border of the country of ourselves. They help us negotiate relationships. They help us discover what's import...
The Magic of Wearing Masks (Happy Halloween!)
29 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's our Halloween Episode of The Container! We discuss the power of masks that we wear in our lives: the Cool Guy, the Good Mother, the Professi...
Myths and Family w/ Sean Wilkinson
15 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What do archetypal stories like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and the Gruffalo teach our families? How can we more consciously relate with these co...
Power Dynamics in Circling w/ Hannah Hellsing
01 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is a can't miss. Hannah Hellsing comes on the podcast to talk about Power. And in a first for our show, Sigh hosts solo. Together, w...
Power Dynamics in Circling w/ Jordan Myska Allen
17 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Power dynamics and hierarchy are rarely talked about features of any community. In Circling, where so many participants value egalitarianism, this can...
What Do We Do Now? w/ Rob Kancler
03 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Okay, so you've woken up. You've escaped the Matrix. Now what?What do we actually do? And what kind of world can we start building now that ...
Anger, Eros, and Boundaries with John Thompson
20 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The amazing John Thompson comes back into The Container for a discussion coming at you from the very frontiers of the relational arts. We talk about h...
Is It All a Psyop? w/ Rob Kancler
06 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Do we have the ultimate unplug from the real Matrix? Did aliens implant religion into humanity as a psyop? What's going on with emotions anyway?T...
Escape the Matrix w/ Rob Kancler
23 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
DISCLAIMER: Some of the conversation was a bit too controversial for the RSS feed, so we've put the full, unedited discussion up on our Patreon.I...
Believe in God (Again)
09 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Can you feel the world waking back up to God and magic? In this conversation, Jonathan and Sigh crack open The Container to explore how anyone can red...
Magic and Manifestation with Raven Elise
23 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Raven Elise is a healer, life coach, and expert in manifestation. On this episode, we dive deep into her new oracle deck, as well as the fine points o...
Post-AI Religion
09 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The AI revolution changes everything. And as humanity navigates our way through this tumultuous moment in history, it might be time to turn once again...
Developmental Trauma as Connection Intelligence with Sean Wilkinson
26 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What if the traits we associate with developmental trauma are signs of a unique relational intelligence?In this episode, we sit down with Sean Wilkins...
Stages of Consciousness with Brad Mewhort
12 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Brad Mewhort teaches us about the Stages of Consciousness and this practice of circling that helps evolve through them.Brad is a hypnotherapist and fa...
AI and Digital Mysticism with Leif Hansen
28 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Leif Hansen gives us a deeply spiritual look at the AI revolution and what it means. Truly, the aliens have landed. Already, we can use these tools to...
Authentic Relating Everywhere with Ryel Kestano
14 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ryle Kestano is a major name in the Authentic Relating movement--he literally wrote the book on the topic. In this discussion, he shares his thoughts ...
Facing the Fear of Death with Susan Campbell
31 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Susan Campbell returns to talk about the fear of death. It's harrowing, it's confronting, but it's also a pathway to deep self-learning...
Integral Circling School with Jason Digges
17 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Jason Digges is an absolute legend in the world of circling and authentic relating. So we were happy to have him back to discuss his journey opening u...
Men, Shame, and Freedom with Rob Kancler
03 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This is the second half of our series of interviews with Rob Kancler. He is a guide and spiritual teacher for men who want to become pioneers of their...
Solving Social Media with Jordan Myska Allen
17 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
We all know social media is broken. Jordan Myska Allen and the team at UpTrust are trying to fix that.How? They’re integrating insights from the rel...
Sexual Mysticism with Rob Kancler
03 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Kancler guides men to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our ene...
The Science of OBEs (out of body experiences) with Marina Weiler
20 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Marina Weiler is an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences in the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies.That’s one way to say t...
Relatefulness with Jordan Myska Allen
06 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Jordan Myska Allen. He pioneered many fundamental practices in the art of circling and authentic relating—and he coined an entirely new paradigm to ...
Practice & Ritual with Scout Rainer Wiley
23 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In our final episode of the Advent season, we welcome the luminous Scout Rainer Wiley—mystical writer, ritual artist, and contemplative spirit. Know...
Reclaiming Christianity with Alicen Grey
09 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Alicen Grey is many things—a writer, a musician, a mystic, and a magician. She comes on The Container to talk about Jesus Christ and the secret of f...
Circling Takes Over the World? with Mahaya Alina Sikorsky
25 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Mahaya Alina Sikorsky is a circling facilitator and life coach who works with The Connection Institute. She shares how this practice changed her life ...
How Young Men Can Thrive in This Society with Mark Walsh
11 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Walsh is a lot of things, but if you know his name, it’s likely because of his work with embodiment. And he blends life coaching with weight tr...
Tai Chi and Circling with Peter Munthe-Kaas
28 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Peter Munthe-Kaas is a master of the Circling Europe tradition. He hops into the Container to discuss his blend of Circling, Tai Chi, and Daoism.🔗F...
What Is Metarelating? with Michael Porcelli
14 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We get hands-on, practical tools from a master of the relational arts—Michael Porcelli.He is the creator of MetaRelating, a powerful system blending...
Tap into Life Force with Sean Wilkinson
30 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode brings us the thoughts and experience of none other than Sean Wilkinson, co-founder of Circling Europe. He walks us through the power (an...
How Deep Does Connection Go?
16 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Martje Witzel comes back on the show to talk about deep connection. To each other and even to the earth itself. In this state of deep connection, we c...
Meet Each Other, Meet God with Martje Witzel
09 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Martje Witzel is a life coach and surrendered leadership facilitator. Sharing space with her, you can immediately feel the power of her presence and...
The Western Esoteric Tradition with Carolyn Lovewell
02 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
For those of us who circle and practice surrendered leadership, we've all tasted the magic in what we do. I think that means we could learn a lot...
Existential Kink: The Best Form of Shadow Work with Carolyn Lovewell
26 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We're back on the third rung of the Container spiral!We discuss Existential K/nk with Carolyn Lovewell (formerly Carolyn Eliot). She guides us th...
Six Books (and a Special Announcement)
05 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, we outline the six books we would recommend to anyone looking to take their circling practice deeper.Tao Te Ching translated by Steph...
Who Is the Master in the Tao Te Ching?
29 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this deep dive into the Tao Te Ching, The Container dives into the second chapter. We discover that "the Master" described in the text ca...
Sacred Intimacy with Adam Quiney
22 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Adam Quiney joins us once again to discuss the practice of Sacred Intimacy. This is a step-by-step process to build a strong physical connection from ...
The Tao Te Ching and Circling
15 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode marks the beginning of our The Way That Can Be Told series, where Sigh and I go through each chapter of the Tao Te Ching. On our long wal...
Notes for the Spiritual Path with Adam Quiney
08 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Adam Quiney is a coach, podcaster, and spiritual thinker. We had an incredible conversation about the spiritual path, roaming through how we work with...
We Repair with Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates
01 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates takes us through a REPAIR process on the show! She shows us how conflict can be a doorway to deeper connection by working with c...
Repair Connection with Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates
24 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates comes on the podcast to teach us about the REPAIR process, a powerful tool for connection. It's exciting. It's informa...
Going Beyond Circling with Melody Indigo Markel
17 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Melody Indigo Markel joins us again to outline the world that awaits us when we go beyond circling.She talks about embodied leadership, a way that the...
The Joys of Integral Circling with Melody Indigo Markel
10 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Melody Indigo Markel joins us to discuss Integral Circling, a potent form of the practice. She was part of the generation of facilitators that helped ...
Trauma-Informed Circling with John Thompson
03 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this third part of our interview with John Thompson of Circling Europe, we discuss how circling can be trauma-informed under surrendered leadership...
The Essence of Surrendered Leadership with John Thompson
27 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this second part of our interview with John Thompson of Circling Europe, we discuss the concept of Surrendered Leadership. The full depth of the id...
The Magickal Path of Circling with John Thompson
20 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
None other than John Thompson of Circling Europe joins us to talk about his journey from seeker to circler. We talk about the magickal path that circl...
Men, Porn, and Intentional Relationships with Robert Kandell
13 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Our Eros Series concludes (yes, concludes) with the second half of our conversation with Robert Kandell. We discuss major topics affecting the male er...
It's Time to Be Seen with Robert Kandell
06 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Our Eros Series takes us to none other than Robert Kandell. His path is winding one—from the American dream to psychedelic exploration to orgasmic m...
Let the Anger Out with Sara Ness and Geof Krum
29 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We welcome Sara Ness and Geof Krum once again to the Eros Series. This time, we discuss the power of hot anger and the gifts we receive when we work w...
Fight Better, Love More with Sara Ness and Geof Krum
22 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Our Eros Series continues with two highly influential leaders of the Authentic Relating movement, none other than Sara Ness and Geof Krum!They talk to...
Hear Us Get Couples Coaching with Susan Campbell
15 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is totally unlike anything we've ever done.Today, you'll hear us get couples coaching with Susan Campbell, author The Couple&ap...
Trigger Your Way to Enlightenment with Susan Campbell
08 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
When our romantic partners trigger us, it can send us into profound emotional turmoil. Could this be fertile soil for a practice that gives us rich in...
Let's Talk Polyamory with Amy Leigh Curry
01 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this second half of our discussion with Amy Leigh Curry, we dive into the world of polyamory. We also take a look at other ways that people can exp...
Mindful Romance with Amy Leigh Curry
25 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Romantic love, sex, relationships. These are the field of Eros, and they are the major themes we will be dealing with to start off the Spring. How can...
Duality, Modes, and Yin Yang (ARCS I)
18 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This episode covers the concept of active and receptive modes in circling (also known as yin and yang). It's the first in a new format we are cal...
The History of Circling II with Jason Digges
11 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Last week, we began our conversation with Jason Digges on the history of circling. Today, we finish that discussion. Jason takes us from the Integral ...
The History of Circling I with Jason Digges
04 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, we welcome none other than Jason Digges onto the podcast to track the history of circling from its origin among the likes of Susan Ca...
Episode 18: Somatic Connection II
26 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The second half of our talk with energy healer and qi gong teacher Jay Demaio. He teaches us a lot about how to let our energy flow in our day-to-day ...
Episode 17: Somatic Connection I
19 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Circling gives us a lot of tools to communicate in a profoundly present way. But our bodies are tools for connecting, too. In this first of two blockb...
Episode 16: Connect Right Now
12 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This is a discussion with the incredible Cathy Courtenay. A true master of circling and a committed educator, she teaches the skills of the relational...
Episode 15: Circling Strongstyle
05 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This is an exciting episode! Sigh and Jonathan discuss a new practice that's been capturing their attention: Circling Strongstyle. With a heavy e...
Episode 14: The Caretaking Issue (with Joel Tenbomb)
29 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On this, our first interview episode, Joel Tenbomb joins us to discuss the fraught issue of caretaking. While some people see it as simple acts of kin...
Episode 13: Shame, Shame Knows Your Name
22 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Our first debrief episode in a while! This time, we invite our friend Misty on the podcast. The conversation that follows is a wild ride that begins w...
Episode 12: The Rupture Tapestry
15 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Rupture. It's the other side of connection. To understand how we relate to people, we have to know rupture. So today, we are opening the floor to...
Episode 11: The Inner Work
08 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
How can we be sure we are really developing as people and not just learning fancier ways to communicate? If I don't hold myself accountable, I ca...
Episode 10: The Debrief Debriefed
01 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
It's the first episode of 2024. And what do you do when something important is over? You debrief it! In this episode, we do a deep dive into the ...
Episode 9: The Traffic Light
25 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Happy holidays and merry Christmas! In this episode of The Container, we talk about the traffic light metaphor, a tool we've used to describe dif...
Episode 8: Finding Patterns
18 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
With Winter fast approaching, we are opening up our discussion to a more expansive view of the Relational Arts and how they fit into our path through ...
Episode 7: Follow the Trail
11 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This was an episode where we began in one place and ended up in an entirely different area, all because someone stayed authentic to where they were in...
Episode 6: Relational Arts Design (RAD Is Rad)
08 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
[Repost of Episode 6]The Relational Arts are a strange space. But circling helps form the center of the practice... or does it? Follow along as our th...
Episode 5: Circling with Friends
27 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We have a big group circling up in this episode, which was recorded all the way back in October. With people both new to circling and long-time circle...
Episode 4: The Drift Will Set You Free
20 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This is another debrief episode, showing how talking about a specific circle can create fertile ground for grander discussions on presence, relating, ...
Episode 3: The First Debrief Episode
13 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This is exciting. One of the main reasons we wanted to start The Container was to share with people how amazing debriefing a circle can be.In this epi...
Episode 2: What Even Is Circling, Though?
13 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
For the second episode, we decided to dive into the big question: What is Circling? Because circling is a foundational practice of the Relational Arts...
Episode 1: Why the Relational Arts
31 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The debut episode of The Container is here! We talk about the Relational Arts and why they are important. This field includes things like authentic re...