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The Daily Show: Ears Edition

TDS Time Machine | Jimmy Carter on the Rise of Fundamentalism

Sat, 11 Jan 2025

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In memory of President Jimmy Carter, a look back at an interview with Jon Stewart in which the 39th president talks about the dangerous rise of religious and political fundamentalism, the merging of politics with religion, and, inspired by his own faith, the need for separation between church and state.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What is the focus of Jimmy Carter's new book?

44.168 - 70.52 Jon Stewart

How are you? Nice to see you. Thank you for being with us. The book is called Our Endangered Values. It is your 20th book. Absolutely. You have been traveling the world, monitoring international elections, doing wonderful missionary work, building homes. Sir, I ask you this. Why are you busier? Why do you work harder than our actual president?

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Chapter 2: Why is Jimmy Carter still so active after his presidency?

78.382 - 101.199 Jimmy Carter

Well, one reason is that although I have been governor of Georgia, I have been president of the United States, I have won a Nobel Peace Prize. I have 11 grandchildren, and they don't think I'll be a success in life until I've been on The Daily Show. And if I was president, I couldn't be here.

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101.8 - 108.214 Jon Stewart

I understand, sir. And that's what this show is for, to give kids like you a break. Thank you. We're here to help you out.

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108.234 - 109.155 Jimmy Carter

All right. Thank you for that.

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109.355 - 123.985 Jon Stewart

How did a Southern Baptist conservative, really, person become the nemesis of the right in this country? There's a certain segment of the country that demonizes Jimmy Carter.

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Chapter 3: How did Jimmy Carter become a target of the right?

124.486 - 125.627 Jimmy Carter

It's a very small segment.

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125.747 - 126.927 Jon Stewart

A very small segment.

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127.988 - 142.7 Jimmy Carter

Well, I told the truth. And this book has now been out about six weeks. Nobody's found anything wrong with it. It points out, I think, in very vivid terms... It's still on sale. Um... That, um...

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Chapter 4: What is the significance of truth in Jimmy Carter's message?

144.264 - 147.126 Jon Stewart

Yes, it is. And by the way, a lovely Christmas gift this would make.

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147.326 - 172.606 Jimmy Carter

Absolutely. And there have been dramatic and unprecedented basic changes in America's policies that are deeply concerning to me. It's not Democratic versus Republican. It's not liberal versus conservative. These are radical changes compared to what was done in all previous administrations, including George Bush Sr. and Dwight Eisenhower and Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan.

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173.226 - 180.816 Jimmy Carter

and all democratic presidents as well. These are radical changes, and that's what I thought I'd devote my time to. It's my first book that's been about political issues.

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181.257 - 190.349 Jon Stewart

A lot of the changes you peg to the rise of fundamentalism, not just in this country, but around the world over the past 30 years, beginning with the hostage crisis in Iran.

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190.626 - 212.318 Jimmy Carter

That's true, in religion and in politics. And lately, what's been of great concern, in addition to what I've already said, is the merger of the two, the merger of religion and politics. Because I happen to be a Christian, and I think that my religion teaches me that you should render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, unto God the things that are God's.

212.458 - 234.527 Jimmy Carter

And Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers, said that we should build a wall between the church and state. That wall is being deliberately and ostentatiously, not secretly, broken down. So there's been an increasing merger in this country of fundamentalism on the religious side, fundamentalism on the political side, and the two have come together.

235.148 - 252.374 Jon Stewart

Do you have a sense in your mind why that hasn't been stopped by the electoral process? Because there is, I see it everywhere, concern over that type of extremism or infiltrating itself into the government or these things. But every election cycle that comes around doesn't seem to reflect that dissatisfaction.

253.914 - 282.112 Jimmy Carter

Well, as a matter of fact, in the year 2000, I think the Democrats won. So it did reflect that. Yeah. And in 2004, the results of election were predictably distorted because about 9 or 10 percent of the American people will tell you today that they vote for the incumbent president even if they don't agree with him or his policies.

282.953 - 301.296 Jimmy Carter

as long as he is the commander-in-chief of our young men and women overseas with their lives in danger. So there's a tremendous effect of patriotism in this country. And I think that patriotic inclination was strongly savaged, but also very greatly utilized by the Republicans. And that changes the politics of it.

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