A Stoic's Guide To Looksmaxxing

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What is looksmaxxing and why is it a concern?

Ryan Holiday 0:00
Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world. Look, I wish I didn't have to talk about this, but since a lot of young men follow The Daily Stoic and spend a lot of time on YouTube, I feel like I have to address this word that's all over the internet right now, which is... Looks maxing. Looks maxing. Looks maxing. Looks maxing. Looks maxing.
It's a TikTok trend taking hold of men seeking to maximize their physical appearance.
Ryan Holiday 0:37
And it can be hard to know how real some of these trends are, but this one is real enough and it speaks to something timeless too. But right now, because of social media, because of algorithms, because of toxic online influencers, young men are particularly obsessed with their looks, their muscles, being more attractive, being alpha, being dominant. Some of this is harmless, some of it's totally fine, whether we're talking about fitness or taking care of your skin or nutrition or getting proper rest, but some of it is actively harmful, if not absurd. I think it's worth saying that the Stoics were in no way against improving yourself.

How do Stoics view self-improvement and beauty?

Ryan Holiday 1:16
We can tell from the statues, they were in good shape, they were handsome, they were strong. They tried to take care of themselves. And so that's what we're gonna talk about today. Not just what the Stoics would warn us against as far as some of these extreme and dangerous behaviors, but what they would tell us about being beautiful, about attraction, and about being your very best self. There's nothing wrong with beauty or being beautiful. But Epictetus said that beauty wasn't in our genetics. It was in our choices. He said, if your choices are beautiful, then you will be beautiful. Okay, so what does he mean by that? We are the product of our choices. And by that, I think he means that beauty can't be separated from the process, from the regiment that creates it.
Ryan Holiday 2:04
I think what he's saying here is like a woman might be stunningly beautiful at first glance, but if those looks are a result of vanity and self-obsession and endless and endless and endless amounts of time primping in the mirror, you'll actually turn out to be an unattractive person when you get to know her. if your muscles are a result of steroids or neglecting your other responsibilities in life if your physique is a result of starving yourself or actively harming yourself if you are selfish and fragile and superficial then you are ugly even if it manifests itself in some kind of temporary physical attractiveness I was thinking about this this morning. I was supposed to get a haircut. I would like my hair to look good rather than bad.
Ryan Holiday 2:50
I'm a little shaggy right now, but I had some other responsibilities that I had to take care of today. And I thought, you know what? Do I want to be rushed around? Do I want to be in a bad mood? Do I want to neglect taking care of this and that so I can go spend however long sitting in a chair, getting my hair trimmed? Like one is much more important than the other. When we talk about beauty, we have to think about the process. We have to think about the choices. We have to think about the priorities. And I also just think generally, if you want to be more attractive, make attractive choices, right? Pick up a book instead of a TV remote. Pick up whole food instead of fast food. Journal instead of wasting time on social media.
Ryan Holiday 3:29
Say no to distractions and temptations and say yes to your children, to your work, to your responsibilities. Every day we are faced with all sorts of choices, ugly choices and beautiful choices. Who we are and how we look literally and figuratively is predicated on making the right choice between these two things. I don't know if you've ever done any live shopping, but it's blowing up. And some of the kids, I don't know if I call them kids, but some of the Gen Z kids on my staff had to tell me about it.

What choices define our beauty according to Epictetus?

Ryan Holiday 4:02
They really love it because you can find vintage stuff and collectible stuff. I was looking at some videos of people selling vintage band tees and records and watches and

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