Inside Trump’s Deal With Iran
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After days of promising that a ceasefire was near, President Trump late Sunday announced that he had reached a deal with Iran. Today, David Sanger, who spoke to the president, explains what is and is not included in the agreement and how much closer it gets both sides to ending the war for good. It's Monday, June 15th. David Sanger, thank you so much for joining us.
Rachel, great to be with you.
It is 8 p.m. in New York. It's after 1 a.m. in London where you are right now. So thank you for making the time. Tell us what you know about this very late-breaking deal with Iran.
Well, Rachel, as you know, this deal has been brewing for a long time and it's been subject to a lot of up and down negotiations between Iran and the United States, even as the war went from active combat to a ceasefire. to that flare-up that we saw just in the past week when the U.S. resumed bombing of Iran for several days. And we thought for a while that that might kill any hope of having what they've just agreed to on Sunday night, which is a preliminary memorandum of understanding. That's really all they've done here, an agreement to reopen the strait, to end the blockade of Iran and to begin a serious conversation about the nuclear program. And in the end, the United States and the Iranians all determined it was in their interest to do that, to end the fighting and get back to the talking.
And David, you actually spoke with the president. Tell us about that conversation.
I did, Rachel. It was a little bit of an unexpected call. I'm here in London, as you said, and around 4.30 in Washington, about 9.30 here, the president called to talk about the deal that he'd put together and to celebrate it, to argue that it was much better than what President Trump Obama had negotiated in 2015, a negotiation that I followed closely at the time.
And a deal that the president ripped up in his first term, we should remind listeners.
Ripped up in his first term, criticized harshly, and has criticized again even on Sunday because he's very sensitive about this. the argument that some Democrats have made, and many nuclear experts have made, that he hasn't gotten as much yet from the Iranians as President Obama did. And of course, President Obama did not resort to war. So the call was mostly to make the argument that he'd gotten something big here, something that had remade the Middle East, and something that will make the entire region and Israel safe from an Iranian bomb in the future.
I should note, David, that one of the reasons this call, at least the surprising to me a little bit, was that it was not that long ago that you were on Air Force One and the president said that your reporting on the war was treasonous.
Yeah, well, Rachel, what can I tell you?
What led to President Trump's announcement of a deal with Iran?
It's a hazard of White House reporting. He reacted badly to a series of news analyses that made the point that he had not yet accomplished his political objectives, you know, including ending the Iranian nuclear program. And he still hasn't. But I think he wanted to try to make the case, because I think he cares about what the Times reports, that he was on the road to something that he believes will be better than the Obama deal. It'll be a while before we know whether that's the case.
I think another takeaway from the fact that he called you despite how angry he was with you quite recently is that this deal really matters to him.
What is included in the framework agreement between the U.S. and Iran?
We have talked on the show about how much the president has been looking for an off ramp to this war.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:03
2
What led to President Trump's announcement of a deal with Iran?
4:03–4:42
3
What is included in the framework agreement between the U.S. and Iran?
4:42–9:52
4
How did the recent conflict influence the negotiations for peace?
9:52–16:50
5
What insights did David Sanger gain from his conversation with President Trump?
16:50–23:12
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