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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kittroweth. This is The Daily. As Democrats wrestle over the direction of their party, a new crop of progressive candidates has made the case that the political future is economic populism. Among the biggest supporters of that platform are college graduates, who used to lean right politically, but over the last few decades have moved increasingly to the left.
Today, my colleague Noam Scheiber explains the economic forces that have left many college grads deeply indebted, underpaid, and angry, and how their unmet expectations are reshaping class politics in America. It's Thursday, June 11th.
Noam, to set the stakes of the conversation that we're about to have, can you describe the political transformation of college graduates that you've just written a book about and that you've been reporting on for years now?
Yeah. So I think we sometimes forget that as recently as the 1980s and 1990s, college grads were actually pretty conservative politically. In the 1980s, for example, they tended to vote Republican by double digit margins. at least on the presidential level, they used to favor things like smaller government, lower taxes, fewer regulations.
And a lot of this, I think, was driven by the fact that college educated workers tended to see themselves as kind of management adjacent. They tended to expect that their lives would become much more affluent in the future. So this is very consistent with their worldview.
If you're an affluent person and you run a business or you're an executive, you tend to want the government to stay out of your way. But if you fast forward a few decades, you really start to get a different picture of And if you look at the most recent election, you see that college guys actually shift really far in the other direction.
They end up supporting Kamala Harris over Donald Trump by about a 15-point margin. And on those specific economic issues like government and taxes and regulation, they've actually moved much further to the left, much closer to people without a degree than they were in the 1980s.
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Chapter 2: What political transformation have college graduates undergone in recent decades?
Earlier this year, the Census Bureau reinforced the view that a college degree makes a big difference in lifetime earnings, hundreds of thousands of dollars difference.
And the solution in a lot of cases was, well, we should send them to college.
I have something to say to every family listening to us tonight. Your children can go on to college.
This really becomes a kind of national obsession.
We can make college as universal in the 21st century as high school is today.
President's beginning, especially with Bill Clinton, talk about how people should go to college so that they can compete in the modern global economy. The No Child Left Behind Act needs to be reauthorized and strengthened. We see George W. Bush when he pushes his education reform initiative, No Child Left Behind.
And the reason I bring it up is in order to make sure we've got more children ready for college.
emphasizes that we need to prepare people better to go to college.
A good education is no longer just a pathway to opportunity. It is a prerequisite.
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Chapter 3: What economic forces have contributed to the frustration of college graduates?
How do you mean?
Well, one of the wrinkles of Obamacare and these regulations is that they actually foist more risk onto individual hospitals and health care systems. So, for example, if patients got a procedure and didn't do that well after the procedure, the government might not reimburse the hospitals as much as they were expecting.
And so the hospitals decide that the way to protect themselves against this risk is to get bigger and bigger. You know, if you're a small hospital and suddenly the administration isn't reimbursing you as much as you thought for different procedures because your patients aren't doing as well as you'd hoped, that can really hurt you financially.
But if you operate dozens and dozens of hospitals, you're much more insulated against that risk.
Mm-hmm. Makes sense.
And what happened when these healthcare systems got really big is they started buying up more and more hospitals in different cities and states. And that actually created fewer places for people to work. And this kind of had two effects.
First, if you are a nurse or a pharmacist or someone who worked in the back office of a hospital, that really could have an impact on your wages because you had fewer potential employers bidding up the price of your labor. And then there was a second set of employees like doctors.
And these folks generally didn't see their wages go down, but they were still affected in other ways that made them really hate this new arrangement of working for bigger and bigger healthcare systems. So, for example, I first covered a group of doctors who were unionizing at a big healthcare system in Oregon in 2015.
And one thing that I heard from them over and over again is we feel like cogs in some giant medical industrial complex. We might as well be factory workers. They're governed by MBAs and bean counters who are suddenly telling them how much time they can spend with their patients, how long they can keep patients in the hospital. what they have to ask them when they talk to them.
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