The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GOOD FOLLOW - Nneka Ogwumike Denied By FIBA, Portland Names Its First Head Coach & More!
21 Oct 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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What's up, y'all? Welcome to Good Follow Show presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Gold on Wooday. And that is Angel McCautry, five-time WNBA All-Star and two-time Olympic gold medalist. And we are coming to you live from the LA studio. And you know it's always a more fun show when we're together in person.
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And you think they're wondering why we're dressed like this?
Yes. Please explain.
This is the first ever inaugural pajama show on Good Follow Show. Even though we got PJs on, our show is anything but sleepy. Part of my soft era right now. I like to be at home with my incense. Y'all see I brought candles today. I got candles and a lighter, although we were told we were not allowed to light anything here.
Ooh, the vanilla sea salt, guys.
Oh, come on. And this one says cozy season. Ugh. And also shout out to our producers because the set is crazy. We came in here today and the whole thing looks like a campfire tent set. They got pillows. Oh, we got these? Oh, they gave us friendship bracelets.
We got to put on our friendship bracelets for the show. Oh, that's cute. No, that's fine. And Roz, you got to show them your nails. Come on. The nails is what sets it off. This ain't have nothing to do with it. This is not the sleepover.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the Portland Fire's new head coach Alex Sarama?
Yeah, and I know before you had mentioned that there were a number of coaches you were looking at that said these are, you know, black women, women who have been coming up or just coaches coming up in women's basketball that should be getting looks.
Yeah, I have a list of women who I think could be really great women head coaches. Christy Tolliver is one. Watch her in Maryland. She's done some stuff in the NBA. She's great. We have Courtney Paris, who was a teammate of mine. Renika Hodges, Latoya Sanders. I mean, the list goes down. There's so many more, but just for time sake, those are just a few I had on my list.
Yeah, Breanne January comes to mind as well. And it's not even just like that it has to be women or black women. It could also be males. It's just like coaches that have been working their way up for years within the women's basketball system, whether that's college hoops or WNBA. But there does seem to be a little bit of a recent trend of kind of looking completely outside of women's basketball.
And look, the goal when you're in franchise is to win, right? It's to win. And you can, as a player... You respond well to any coach. It doesn't matter if man, woman, black, white. I'm not going to say that. I'm asking.
I'm asking. But I mean, this is a pro level. So it has to be a coach that relates to the players because, you know, we're not in college. It's a different level in college. You're on their case more. You're watching what they do, you know, who they hang with. We're grownups. You know what I mean? So you have to relate like adults.
Yeah, actually, so, I mean, understanding, like, what the lifestyle is, you know, being able to talk to a grown woman. These aren't kids in college. Like, there's an issue of... You know, being able to connect and you may be a brilliant mind, but you might lose the locker room if like you can't get the message across.
You know, and a lot of people, you know, might have pointed to was the connection right for Coclanus, who is highly regarded. And Dallas only lasted a season there just using that as a case study. But, you know, so there might be something to be said about someone who understands what it's like to be in that locker room.
You have to understand. And I will say for men coaches, understand women. You know, we love a constant pat on the back. We always want to feel like we're doing it right. I want to challenge men coaches to really understand the psychology of women, especially in sports and what we go through in our biology.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just think that's different for each player and person, too. There are some people who like to get, you know, dogged on and, you know, push to the limits. And there certainly are some people like I think a good coach is one that understands there might be a difference.
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Chapter 3: How does the coaching style impact player relationships in professional sports?
I'm going to speak up now and say Nneka is an MVP. Nneka should have a shoe deal.
Oh, yeah. And so that was the 2016 Olympic team where the Sparks won the championship and Nneka was the league MVP. And both she and Candice Parker actually were left off of that Olympic roster. So anyway, halo or hell no, Nneka should be an Olympian.
Hell no, that FIBA will not appeal the decision to let her play for the Nigerian national team. She is Nigerian. I know you also Nigerian. Could you imagine you being able to go and support her in that? I played for the Nigerian national team. You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how much fun did you have with that?
Girl, it was one of the highlights of my career and life. And actually, we were kind of part of the teams that were setting a path for the current women's Nigerian national team that actually, in the last Olympics in Paris, made it to the quarterfinal. They were the first African...
national team in the Olympics to ever win a game ever men's or women's the women's Nigeria national team props to them and obviously think about what that what they could do with adding Nneka Agumake oh my goodness could you imagine so thank you Ross for paving the way but
You know, Nneka has extended a lot of resources and time to be an Olympian. And it's so unfortunate that even during a time where she's a league MVP and she's winning a championship, she's still left off the Olympic team. And I know there's rules to, the rules are if you play on an Olympic team, you can never play for another country. Those are the rules. They discourage that.
They discourage that. It's not that it's never happened, by the way.
I want to remind you. Has that happened? There's been changes in nationality. There's been cases where they've allowed that in the Olympics. I don't know exactly like what sports, but it has happened.
Well, that's interesting. I have to look more into that. But in this case, Nneka has never actually really played on the U.S. She's played in tournaments. Exactly. But I think for a situation like this and for someone of Nneka's caliber and for the world who wants to see her play in the Olympics, FIBA. Give the appeal. So this is a hell no for me. Give her a chance. She deserves to be there.
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