Chapter 1: What is 'Back In My Dave' and how does it relate to movie tropes?
This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Dave, you have a back in my Dave for us here? I do. I do. Sorry for stepping on the Cody family toes here, but here we go. This is a movie specific back in my Dave. Movie tropes used to mean something. You know what I miss?
I miss the scene when the two guys are wrestling for the same gun and then it goes off and you don't know who got hit because they both make that same stunt stroke face at each other. and hold it for like seven seconds, until finally after like, uh, uh, those seven seconds go by, then somebody finally falls down.
But really, it's a wasted seven seconds, because we already knew it was gonna be the bad guy who died. What, they're gonna kill the good guy? Mama didn't raise no fool. And I miss when zombies were at least nice and slow. At least I could rest easy with the knowledge. If there ever were a zombie attack, they wouldn't be able to catch me, because you can't eat what you can't catch. Now though,
I feel like I'm living on borrowed time because of the fast zombies. And I miss when a semi-regular cause of death, in movies and only in movies, has never ever happened once in man's recorded history, we've talked about this before, but like dying while fighting on top of a moving train. No one's ever actually died that way on the planet Earth.
Chapter 2: What nostalgic movie moments does Dan miss and why?
But hundreds, nay, thousands of characters lost their fictional lives while throwing hands with an action hero. The death toll among just Bond villain henchmen alone has got to be in the four figures. And I miss how the bad guys in a high-speed chase were just good enough shots. They could always hit the back windshield, but just inaccurate enough to never actually hit anybody in the car.
That's some seriously bad luck. And I miss when anyone would die in a movie, it would always be with their eyes open. And I don't mean just like a little bit, but their eyes were there. When people would die, their eyes would be all the way open. But then someone would come along and they would take their index finger and their thumb and they would close the eyelids on the dead person.
But then movies being informed by older movies, they were like too much with the like specific information.
digits using it and then it just became like a whole hand and they just like will rub the hand and then magically the eyes would be dead would be it would be close and then they're just like you know what this whole thing is taking too much time let's just throw a sheet over them and move on and uh and i know a lot of people are with me on on missing the days when movies weren't preceded by a half hour's worth of commercials but the one that's plum inexplicable and therefore deeply vexing is the one
For the movie theater itself, come see your movies at Blank Movie Theaters. Hey, movie theater, we're already in you. Let's chop-chop and make with the show, eh? And when the movie ended, it was over. You didn't need to sit through the credits unless you wanted to see the name of a family member who was a key grip or something up on the big screen.
Now I gotta sit there for an extra five, 10 minutes watching this scroll in small font to see if there's some leftovers to share. And I like leftovers, but still. And I miss when fraudulent Hollywood marriages were buoyed by public displays of assaulting Wiseacre Oscar hosts. It's like being a beard in exchange for A-list status has lost all meaning.
and i and and this one even it's not as bad as it is in con but still i miss when the oscars didn't require 27 standing ovations over the course of the night i'm not against honoring enduring achievements but come on he who starts the standing ovation is really honoring himself for being a great guy as much as the person they're ovationing so somehow clapping from a seated position
now makes you a jerk if the person in front of you stands and no one wants that so now you've got to get up and you know what that means for the person behind you so now we're all standing here clapping like a bunch of jackasses potentially wasting valuable seconds that could have been used to get a little further away from the fast zombies that are going to be here sooner rather than later that's how it used to be back in my dave wow very good dave great dismount there davey
That was excellent. Greg Cody has a challenger to his throne. We should play that for him tomorrow to see if we could elevate Greg Cody's game at all. David, I did want to talk to you about the Oscars. It's the funnest day of the year for you. And Mike Ryan, you won a bet, okay? You won the bet when you said Robert Redford would be the last dead person honored by the Academy.
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Chapter 3: How do movie tropes influence modern storytelling?
You were moved by it, I would imagine. Mike Ryan burst out laughing, called the whole thing weird and burst out laughing when the moment Barbra Streisand broke into song. It felt like an impersonator doing a Barbra Streisand impression during the whole thing. Her to send it to the orchestra was about her. Her whole entire connection point to Robert Redford was the Babs nickname.
I guess that's a famous story. I don't know, but it felt very self-involved. And I was like, that was kind of really self-involved. That was more about Barbra Streisand than Robert Redford. And then the orchestra starts up, so I'm like, I guess we're going to get a montage. And then, nope! Babs started singing poorly for Babs. And it's just not tuned correctly.
It was kind of sad and funny and awkward. She's not young anymore, so let's give her a small break. Recognize the fact that she's basically mourning the loss of someone on her level, realizing that she's next. Like, that's what happens when you're that age. I wasn't viewing it through that way. I was also upset there was no James Van Der Beek tribute.
That's what I said last night, but then the counter was that he hasn't been in enough movies. He's a TV guy. What? I was more upset about Bud Quartz. They have publicists get honored in that thing. I don't want your life. The idea that Mike Ryan would say that Babs is self-involved when she's like the original diva. I know. She's like the OG. Have you ever heard her duet with Donna Summer?
They're legit fighting throughout the entire song. Your thoughts in general about last night beyond the awkwardness of we honored the dead for a full 30 minutes. It wasn't 30, but it was necessary. There were a lot of dead people. I thought there were going to be several deaths during the length of that. No, the show itself, I thought, moved well. 1030 was over, right?
Yeah, 1032, 1033 in time to watch the 8th and 9th. That's because it cut off Brody. No, I think it was, I think it moved fine. And I, did you watch the end? I don't know if Dave did. There was a Conan sketch at the end. Yeah, I loved it. Post for life? Sean Penn happened to win, and it was a, I'm forgetting his name, his character, Throwjack, Blowjack. Lockjaw. Lockjaw, thank you.
Throwjack, Blowjack. Blowjack is a totally different character. It was actually Bob Nutting. Throwjack, Blowjack, Lockjaw. It was right there. I'm sorry, Bill Nutting. So Conan's the host for life, which he'd love to be, but now he's dead. They killed him at the end. That thing had me for like 30 seconds. I'm like, are they just announcing that he's hosting? And then the bit came in.
So it worked. Did you defeat Adnan in your annual rivalry of who will get more of the selections, correct? Yes. You only had one difference in your selections. Yours ended up coming in? Yeah, I had the documentary correct. It was Mr. Nobody Against Putin, where everybody was picking the perfect neighbor.
But Mr. Nobody Against Putin was a better documentary, more important, allowed for there to be a political discourse, which is what I told you would happen. And out came the star of the show in Russian talking about what needs to happen, what the issues are. Meanwhile, Sean Penn's publicist said, hey, it's not that I can't vape here.
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Chapter 4: What are the major criticisms of the Oscars discussed in the episode?
That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion. Everything else? Everything else. Wearing clean underwear every day? Well, that's just a personal decision. Brushing your teeth? Obviously smart, but not a rule. Never pee pee on an electric fence. OK, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100 percent that I insist on completely.
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He said, hey, what are you doing for the game? I said, I'm just on my couch right now, doing nothing, enjoying it. He's like, hey, do you want some company? I said, from you, Mochetta? Absolutely. Mochetta comes over to the house and I pull out the Miller Lite. Miller Lite made that casual hang a memorable good Miller time with my good friend Mochetta because Miller Lite brought us together.
We took that first sip after we toasted our beers and we knew we made the right call. We watched a game. All of a sudden, we're standing up on our feet. Big threes are being drained and white cans are being clanged. See, times like these, that's exactly why Miller Lite is my go-to. Clean, refreshing, easy to drink, brewed for taste with simple ingredients.
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Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Don Levatard. Tatas. Stugatz. Tatas. This is the Don Levatard Show with the Stugatz. Amy Madigan was nominated in 1986 for Best Supporting Actress for twice in a lifetime. You just saw, though, David's general discomfort with publicly acknowledging he doesn't know something. You saw it play out in real time.
He had a movie question for him, and you felt and saw David's shame in not knowing the answer to every single movie question that is asked by anyone anywhere in the world. I don't know, Tristan. I pretty much just said I don't know. I'm not throwing you a lifeline. No? I really was hoping. This was the moment. This was going to be our moment right there.
You started the day today by saying she looked like she was wearing PJs. You're not going to recover from that ever. It's been hours. That's a first impression. No, that was not our first impression.
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Chapter 5: How do the hosts feel about the current state of NBA media coverage?
That's the first time you guys have been around each other where you've insulted her. I mean, Trista, saying a girl looks like she's wearing PJs, that conveys sloppiness, right? Yeah, slovenly behavior. Have you not seen beautiful PJs before? Like sexy, beautiful PJs? That's what you were saying. That's lingerie. So I'm wearing negligee to the Dan Levitar show? That's what you were saying?
That's what you meant? No. I'm done here. A nightie? Teddy? Nightie is like for old people. A teddy? Yeah, a teddy. Teddy's better than 90. I told them back here, I said, I think David's been making a lot of eye contact with me. I think he's trying to form some sort of rapport and I'm not giving it to him. I'm not doing it. I can't. He's going for rapport and repair.
I'm also going for trying to be good with Dan because he this is part of me getting better at what I'm doing is engaging with everyone in the room and looking around. Now I'm being criticized. Well, it's where you started. I mean, that's an amateur mistake by you. I don't understand how you don't understand that that's not something you could do upon seeing the way that a person is dressed.
I saw her last night. That was the first time we met. And I introduced myself to the dog named Ollie. Oh, good. Good save there. Good save. Thank you. No, we saw it. We saw it. We saw you thinking all of us. Why did you not? Because I was hoping that you would drown in it. Wait a minute. Who said anything around here was about love? God knows it's not. You better have some thick skin.
This teaches you all to be executives in sports. Speaking of which, OK, I want to play something for you here because one of the criticisms of basketball announcing and one of the reasons I believe Jeff Van Gundy now works for the Clippers instead of being a voice for the NBA as he had been for about 20 years is because Adam Silver felt like.
Jeff Van Gundy didn't do a good enough job of accentuating all of the positive that is sales in basketball. All of the things worth celebrating. And I've noticed over the last few years, in fact, since Shaq got there, inside the NBA, the single best studio sports show there has ever been,
Inside the NBA has Shaq telling everyone that they should play the game he played down low and telling everyone that the way they play now isn't the right way. Telling big men to be like him and just basically complaining about things. I've noticed this with Wilbon and Kornheiser as they've gotten older. You age, you get more conservative. You start complaining about more things.
And it's a little startling to see inside the NBA be the old person's show where generations now, plural, of athletes. I've heard this a number of times. Man, bleep Charles. Charles is from another time. Bleep Charles. I'm done. I'm not going to genuflect before Charles. Those are old guys who are just spending all their time complaining about the game. So let's listen to this sound here, Zaz.
Do we have some context here that you'd want to put on this particular sound?
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of negative commentary in sports broadcasting?
Well, as someone that is trying to correct my relationship with the NBA because I default on that all the time, I was watching this game. It was a big game in the standings. It matters. It gives the Lakers now the three seed. You had all the stars playing. You had everybody caring. You had a finish that you never see. It does feel odd to me.
And something that I would say in years previous when I'm back when before I try to reshape my opinions on this thing, it seems toxic to the sport. It doesn't seem like you're helping. And look, I can understand that maybe at TNT, but you're with a new partner. They saved your show. You. You're doing it out of the same studio in Atlanta. You're working with all the people that you love.
Maybe just maybe like throw a bone to the NBA and the new Parker. You say this, Mike, but I'll remind you that we started the show today with Zaz, who's younger than Shaq, saying he'd seen it all and he's old and tired. Zaz is saying, I've seen it all. I'm old and tired. Shaq, Shaq's played in some important games.
He's sitting here watching a regular season game saying, oh, the Lakers are the three seed. Congratulations, Lakers. My standard is we are winning the championship every year. That's my standard. Well, but I guess the difference is one of us, it's their job, and the other one is just I can make a choice whether or not I want to watch this or not.
That is a weird standard to have when you're covering the league as a whole. Not everybody has that standard. I can understand a jaded fan, like a Spurs fan of 20 years, being like, man, this really sucks. This is a throwaway season. It's the NBA. You're covering teams that are absolutely shooting for a championship. Those are two of them. I've never stepped foot on that campus.
If you told me right now your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats. Yeah, they're trying to be genuine, though, and they're trying to react to what's happening around them, which is people not caring. So they're they're leaning into that.
But now what you're saying is you lean into it so much that now you become the focus of the not care. But don't forget that ESPN and Disney, they're really all about as they should be the playoffs. They're about when people are really focused and Shaq and Barkley are focused when it comes playoff time. But what's happened to the infection, as all do, is they spread.
So now you see some first-round matchups where all of a sudden they're not as engaged. They're the blowouts you talked about with Miami-Cleveland. So now you're seeing regular season bleed a little bit into first-rounder playoffs. And before you know it, that's how you lose your sport. That's the fear.
Let me talk about something here, though, that I see happening in whatever is the new media of all the smoke and Draymond Green and Pat McAfee. and younger-ish, Former players who have the complaint about what ESPN specifically has been over the last 20 years is, why do these people who did not play the game get to have the same standing as I do when they're not as expert as I am on this?
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Chapter 7: How do current NBA analysts compare to past legends?
I want to guess. Let's take a guess on how many made threes there were in Shaq's career. What are you going to guess? Oh, I think he's made one. One in his career? I say three. I actually can remember it in my head. I'm going over. I think it's one. It has to be more than one. It's a big career. Over, under three and a half. Under. How many do you think he took in his career? Ten.
Ten in his entire career? He doesn't have four then. Young, skinny Shaq. God, he was. Shaq clock running down. You know, running down the court. You're going one for ten. One for 10 for career. Yep. One for 22. Wow. It's pretty good, right? So you remember the one three that Shaq made? I do. Did it look like his free throws? It's like one-handed, you know? Shot putted.
He really has seen everything. It was the 1995-96 season in all in. Yeah, of course it was. Yeah. Oh, stop it. I don't get credit yet. I just got everything right. I don't get credit for that yet. 31 years ago? Yeah. Name the team. No, that I don't know. But I remember where it was on the court. Behind the three-point line? Well, yes. It was on the left wing. I can't with you, Seth.
I remember watching that Shaquille O'Neal, and it's literally unlike anything I had ever seen to that point, watching someone that size. He was skinnier, but watching him go coast-to-coast dribbling the basketball was like, what the hell is happening there? Oh, that was the first game against the Heat? Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy to watch someone that size go coast-to-coast.
And now he hates basketball. And why wouldn't he? Where'd you say it was, Zazz? Left wing. I'm watching. I assume if he only has one, I'm seeing a three-pointer. It's like a buzzer beater, and it's not the left wing. It wasn't on the left angle? He's at the elbow. Fraud! Fraud! He's unreal. He just passes half court, and he's approaching the three-point line on the right side of the court.
You got it right, and then you got it wrong!
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