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Chapter 1: What are the highlights of Wyndham Clark's performance at the US Open?
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Chapter 2: Why was the crowd's reaction to Wyndham Clark controversial?
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What do you say? What do you say, Ray? Wow. Wow. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Ray produces the Gambling Podcast. He's very instrumental in doing things behind the scenes, so he's in Paul's chair today. Todd is here. Dylan is here with his Brendan Sorsby jersey. It's a one-of-a-kind end. Not game used. It's not Indiana or Cincinnati. It's Texas. Marvin is here, and then Big Day Ray.
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I want to have Seton O'Connor tell us our chances, our boys right now. But I'm looking at the odds, and Ray, maybe you can help me since you're the only Dan Ed who does research. The World Cup title odds, it's still France and then Spain, then England, Argentina, and Portugal. Where is Team USA on this list? I think they're around eighth or ninth still. Is that correct?
Yeah, so after Portugal, you get Brazil plus 1,200, Germany plus 1,300, Netherlands plus 1,400, and then Norway and USA are tied at plus 3,500. And they started at about plus 6,000. Okay. I don't know if anybody's surprised at what they've done so far. Like, I'm not. I expect them to. I mean, Paraguay and Australia, you should win.
Now, I thought there might be a tie in there with one of those two, but I don't know. This is good. And they're doing it without Christian Pulisic. So we'll talk to Seton O'Connor, have him handicap exactly what's going on. Big picture, Cape Verde. Cape Verde. I love it. I got to get me a Cape Verde kit. I got to get a jersey. Are they kits or are they jerseys? Kits.
Kits, I think, is the whole package. It's like the jersey, the cleats. I don't need the whole package. No? No, no. You don't want cleats? No, no. Just a kit. The Cape Verde kit. But then hockey, it's a sweater. Yeah, sweater's probably the best name for a jersey. But then why not call it just a jersey? Well, I'm pretty sure that it started as a sweater because initially that's what it was.
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Chapter 3: How does Seton O'Connor analyze the US Men's National Team's World Cup chances?
Nice cardigan. Yeah, it was keeping you warm on the ice. All right, we have a poll question, play of the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming. Wyndham Clark survives at Shinnecock. Paulie asked me on Friday, if you were Wyndham Clark and you're seven under par, would you take that the rest of the tournament? I said, absolutely. You'll take that and run with it.
Well, he tried to run, and he fell. But he got back up, and it was a weird vibe at the U.S. Open. Something about golf crowds on Long Island. Now, Ryder Cup, I get it. But if you're playing a major at Bethpage Black or Shinnecock, and they were rooting against Wyndham Clark, and I thought at first maybe they were rooting for him to come back down to the rest of the field.
that they were out there and they, although the crowds weren't very good, as far as the number of people who showed up, but those who did show up were rooting against Wyndham Clark. And I thought maybe they're rooting because they wanted to have a head-to-head. They wanted Scottie Scheffler to be in the mix. And Scheffler just didn't have it.
It felt like everybody was like, oh, if you just made that putt. But Wyndham Clark did make the putts when he needed to. He's got two U.S. Opens, and I think he's got two U.S. Opens in a span of five or six starts. So he won at LACC. So two titles in six U.S. Open starts. That's up there historically among the best as far as percentages in golf history.
Which sounded like a stat of the day.
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So Seton O'Connor will join us coming up a little bit later on this hour. Chris Fowler had a wonderful story about hearing his dad's voice when Chris, I think, was 16 years of age. And his dad was dying of cancer. He didn't really know his dad. And SportsCenter did a wonderful, heartfelt interview. a story about that with Chris. He'll join us coming up next hour.
We'll talk some other things, college football. Also, he does tennis as well, Serena at Wimbledon. Jay Billis, he'll be on the draft coverage tomorrow night for the Mothership. He'll join us as well. And Darren Peterson is not the favorite to go number one overall to the Wizards, but he only worked out for the Wizards. Because right now, according to DraftKings, A.J.
DeBonsa, he's got the best odds to go number one overall. And then it's Darren Peterson, Cameron Boozer, Caleb Wilson. Those are your top four. But you have, according to the Mothership, the top ten prospects are all freshmen. And here you have the Knicks where, now, once again, they're an anomaly, but they got players.
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Chapter 4: What improvements have been observed in the US Men's National Team's gameplay?
But I don't know if that's... Well, it's not going to be the case for the first 10 picks. And also, if we learn anything from the draft, it's... There's going to be two or three or four guys this year who were taken outside the top 15, top 20, and they become All-NBA. Shea Gilchrist Alexander was, I believe, 11th overall. And I didn't hear anybody go, boy, the Clippers got a steal. Nobody knew.
I mean, Donovan Mitchell, nobody knew. Jalen Brunson, nobody knew. Joker, nobody knew. Giannis, nobody knew. Kawhi Leonard, nobody knew. There's more that weren't in that top ten, it feels like, than those that were. Devin Booker's another one. Devin Booker didn't even start at Kentucky. Now, Kentucky was loaded, but Devin Booker is one of the great shooters so far, Dylan.
Got a couple golf questions, Dan. For starters, did you have a problem with how the fans were treating Wyndham Clark on Sunday? Yes or no? I can speak for myself and say I did. Yeah, I did. If it's a Ryder Cup, I mean, this is an American. And look, I know he's had some ugly behavior before, but still, you're watching him perform at an unbelievably high level.
He was playing, it felt like, at a different level on a different course than everybody else. And he went wire to wire. And even when he had hiccups, I mean, he didn't play great, which sounds stupid to say, but he didn't. I mean, he was three over yesterday.
And even, like, he didn't hit it where you would think a champion going wire to wire was going to hit it, but to get up and down on that golf course, that's a remarkable feat. But you could tell early that crowd came out there rooting for Scottie to complete the Grand Slam and probably didn't view Wyndham Clark as user-friendly or somebody they wanted to root for, which is fine.
You don't have to root for him, but rooting against in a U.S. Open? I thought it was kind of embarrassing. Yeah, Dylan. Yeah, he had that chip shot that he tried to bump up the hill that got hung up at the top. And the cheers, you would have thought someone just holed out somewhere else. It was really loud. I thought it was just like, I was not a Wyndham Clark guy.
I was very much pulling for him by the end of that. And I think, like you said, he's done some stuff. I think people maybe hang on every incident too much with people and are unwilling to kind of change their opinions. But I'm sure he's probably a decent guy. Or not. But, you know. I don't know. I think we might have had him on after the L.A. Country Club U.S. Open. Is that right, Todd?
I believe we did. I didn't understand all the pro-Sheffler stuff, too.
Was it just because they didn't want Wyndham Clark to win, or was it just they wanted to be able to say they were there to see him get the career grand slam? Was it anything more than that? Because we know he doesn't have much of a personality, so what's all the pro-Sheffler stuff?
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Chapter 5: What are the odds for Team USA in the World Cup?
And then maybe you rest some people who have yellow cards or to avoid yellow cards, I'm guessing. Once again, I am not a soccer expert. I'm not a World Cup expert. But I do read a lot about it. And I probably could go to a cocktail party and hold my own a little bit there. Do they talk about that offsides call? And I'm going, I don't think I understand this. I need help. Yes, Ray?
Yeah, there's something called yellow card accumulation. So you can get a yellow in one match, and then the next match you're suspended if you have two yellow cards. And that goes out, wipes out at the quarterfinal.
Yeah.
Duh. I know that, Ray. I had no idea. No, I didn't know that. Accumulation. I was around somebody. We had a group over for Father's Day and my daughter's birthday. You had the one guy who knows everything about soccer. You didn't know that he knew anything about soccer. But that guy, it's like he got his Cliff Notes version, and he was coming in hot.
And he's telling me about all the kids that the U.S. team has. And I was like, man, Tom, I didn't know. He goes, oh, yeah, I've been a big soccer fan. I go, oh, okay. Well, congratulations. Yes, Todd?
Where's the line between being helpful because you see others are kind of laymen that don't really follow the sport and being kind of annoying and a know-it-all? Where is that gray area?
Well, there's a fine line, but you don't need the World Cup to find that. Soccer snobs. But you're passionate about it. Sometimes you are too passionate to try to convey how can you not understand this. And I was in that category of, ah. I don't get it. It's kind of like jazz. I know it's impressive. I just don't always get it. Like, listen to Miles Davis. I'll go, yeah, something blue.
Yeah, I got it. And I don't. Yes, Dylan. I think the same thing happens with the Olympics. When they come around, they're like, have you seen this discus guy from Romania? I've done a deep dive on him. Everyone all of a sudden is an expert on the sport. No, it's more the Winter Olympics that you get the guy who wants to tell you about whatever they're doing. The skeletoner from Norway.
All righty, we're just getting started. Seton O'Connor in about a half hour from now. And Chris Fowler will join us. Jay Billis will join us. We'll get to your phone calls coming up. We're back after this. Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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Chapter 6: How does the US Men's National Team compare to other top teams?
I love the sounds, the buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place soccer, futbol, it's home.
Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed?
I inherited that fandom from my mom.
I like watching it with my dad.
It's a connecting force.
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A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture.
I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.
Are they the only ones that don't like that?
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of expanding the World Cup to 48 teams?
We look at you differently. You have that green jacket. It's just, I don't know. You get that kind of lifetime cachet with the Masters. What about three PGA championships or a Masters? That's actually tougher than, or that's easier, I think, than two U.S. Opens. I would probably take one Masters over three PGA championships. I might take two U.S. Opens. I would take three PGA championships.
What about three PGA championships or three U.S. Opens? Three U.S. Opens. Two U.S. Opens or three PGA championships? I don't have a problem with a PGA championship. I know it gets kicked to the curb, and I know it's our championship, the U.S. Open, but if I get three majors, I would take three majors. If you get close to five majors, you're one of the greatest golfers of all time. Yes, Todd.
You definitely got to pick the Masters over like a two-time champion because, again, to the ear, like an introduction like we do with Hall of Fame versus Super Bowl MVP, I'd rather be introduced as a Masters champion than two-time major winner Dylan as opposed to the 1997 Masters champion. The Masters just sounds better.
I think there's only 17 golfers who have more than three majors. In history. So if you got to three PGA championships, you're the 18th golfer to have that many majors? I'd take that. That's pretty good. Yeah. And we still have the British Open coming up. That's another one. Actually, after the Masters in terms of longevity of the perks you get from winning it, the Open's number two. Yeah.
When did we drop the British Open? Then it became the Open. Todd, raise your hand. Why is it the Open?
No, raise your hand.
I'm not done yet. No, you don't get to raise your hand and start talking. I was going to make my point just as you were making it, but I should be raising my hand.
Go ahead. Why did they change it from, as you were saying, the British Open to the Open Championship? How could you give the full respect to any kind of major event when they can't even figure out exactly what to refer to it as?
Okay, why are you piggybacking what I was going to say?
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Chapter 8: How does the US Men's National Team's current performance reflect on its future?
I've been in the business a while. I've learned.
You haven't learned anything. I have not. I don't even know how to talk into the microphone the right way. See, until like a month ago, it was like, you've got to really put your lips up against the... Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris.
Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey, I got a best and worst in a comment. Best NFL wide receiver, Antonio Freeman's son, Alex, who's the youngest player on the U.S. soccer team at 21, getting a big goal in Friday's win. And also best in the world, enjoying Major League Baseball this summer. And my worst U.S.A. soccer coach after their big win, talking somewhat disparagingly about the current state of U.S.A.
soccer and U.S.A. sports in general. And he's certainly entitled to voice his opinion. But I thought the timing of the statement after such a big win wasn't the best.
And a comment, I don't know enough about soccer to know exactly which countries, but I'm sure there's a few countries that if the USA beats them in the knockout rounds down the road and doing it on home soil, it may have the feel of when USA beat Russia in hockey in the 80 Olympics. And that was on home soil, Lake Placid, and that would be awesome for USA soccer going forward.
Thank you, Chris. Antonio Freeman had a 1,400-yard season, 1,200 and 1,000-yard, and was an All-Pro one year. I think he had one of the greatest catches in NFL history. Was that when the ball was on his back or a defender's back? Al Michaels had the call. I think it's Antonio Freeman. Yeah, I believe so. It's like a Monday night game maybe? Yes, yes.
But it was one of those, wait a minute, he caught that? It's a touchdown? It's a game against the Vikings? Ray, what other information do we have on that? Game against the Vikings overtime 2020 in 2000. And it was the game-winning touchdown. Went off the guy's back. Trying to see who the guy was, but 35, 40-yard touchdown. And then Freeman picks it up off his back.
Picks it up off his back, runs it in. And there he goes. Yeah, it was Al Michaels with the call. Let's see. Buda. Buda in San Francisco. Hi, Buda. Best and worst of the weekend.
What up, DP? Happy Monday, boys! Oh, wait, hold up, DP.
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