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Chapter 1: What advice does Dan Patrick give to Brendan Sorsby after the NFL supplemental draft cancellation?
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of Brendan Sorsby's situation for his future in football?
Yours truly in the back room, guys, as well. We'll talk a little bit more about the draft last night. I did think Oklahoma City drafted a guy where you go, yep, that's the team that would draft Addy Mara from Michigan. He's 7'3 center. And this felt like we're going to draft somebody whose job is going to be go head-to-head with Wemby.
Now, I don't know exactly what that means, go head-to-head with him, but it does give you another big body for OKC, and maybe Chet Holmgren doesn't have to get embarrassed, and you could have Mara out there at 7'3", and it looks like he's ready to come in and play a little bit there. But that was one of those picks where you go, Okay, I got it. Here was one that was odd.
Golden State took Yaxo Lindenborg from Michigan. He's a month older than Jonathan Kaminga. Jonathan Kaminga's been in the league for six years. Both are 23.
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Like, look, they want to draft a 19-year-old, so by 22, 23, he's in his fourth or fifth year, and now he's an all-star, and he's still only 22 and 23 years old instead of a rookie being 23. Yeah, but you might want somebody who can play right away and that you don't have to wait for them. Yes, Marv.
But GMs are probably going to say, if you were that good, why did you wait until you were 23 to get to the NBA? Well, you know, sometimes you may not have the confidence. You may not have somebody who signs off and says you're going to be a first-round pick. I mean, Michigan did extremely well.
I mean, Dusty May, he's leaving the cupboard bare with three lottery picks, and then he goes to the Dallas Mavericks. But, you know, sometimes you just say, I'm not ready for the NBA.
uh... and you know considering how he put that line of together so i think he recruited that lineup and when they were eighteen or nineteen he just gathered them all together and through men there yeah yeah paul gang axle on the board he sounds like an f one driver by the way with that name uh... he played six years of college basketball three juco to at u a b then he brought his talents of north and uh... doctor linda board finished at michigan last year he's twenty three
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Chapter 3: How did the NBA Draft unfold and what were the key highlights?
I added that. But I don't know if somebody said to Brad Stevens, the GM for the Celtics, Did you try to trade Jalen Brown to Milwaukee? I would ask that question there. Also, the Brendan Sorsby situation, he's out of the supplemental draft. The NBA, or NFL, I should say, had a deadline here.
So I'm not quite sure I understand everything, but they're blocking the quarterback into the supplemental draft. And the NFL cited the late submission by Sorsby's team to the draft as one of the many reasons for their refusal to accept his case. Sorsby's application came in around three days before the deadline.
So why have a deadline if you adhere to the deadline, but you decide you are going to hold that against him? They don't want him in the NFL. They don't need him in the NFL. And part of the problem with this is Sorsby's team probably looked at the NFL as, well, it didn't work out in college. Now you have a safety net. The NFL spent years trying to protect itself from gambling scandals.
He got a draw line. They drew a line, and I did reach out to a source. I said, who did the source be playing for an NAIA school? Who did he play in the CFL? I was told by my source that, yes, he could play for an NAIA school, and that he was looking for – let me just check my phone – he was looking to see – if he would be able to play in the CFL. But no, no response.
But the NAIA part of this, that he could play for a really small school. Here's my suggestion for Brendan Sorsby, and it's a suggestion that I made to Pete Rose on numerous occasions. When Pete got caught and got that lifetime ban, I said to him, On your own dime, on your own time, go to the minor leagues and go around the country.
and tell those kids about how you got this deeply involved that cost you your career, and maybe the Hall of Fame. And Pete wouldn't do it. Because Pete, I think he thought he was bigger than the game, and the game will eventually come back to him and say, all right, you serve your penance. Now, he got a lifetime ban, and maybe something happens posthumously. I've said that before about Pete.
But if I'm Brendan Sorsby, on your own time on your own dime go around to colleges maybe you do a sit down with 60 minutes maybe you're able to give some shed some light maybe garner some sympathy or some understanding go to high schools and just say i want to talk to you about gambling And I think that would go a long way.
Now, college might be tough because he's just getting basically kicked out of college. Maybe you go to the high school level and talk to those kids. Gather them in the gymnasium and let them ask you questions. It might not be comfortable, but this at least shows that, okay, I'm going to rehab myself, but I also want to make sure that I tell these kids it can happen to you.
And once it starts, I mean, he placed 9,000 bets. It was just, it didn't stop. And sometimes we get caught up in, well, but he was only betting like $20. That is not what I focused on. It was the constant that he was, he needed it. He couldn't survive each day without some kind of bet on something around the world. Like if he did one big bet, okay, when you do 9,000,
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Chapter 4: What insights does Tim MacMahon share about the NBA Draft results?
Let's show a different side of me, not somebody who's going to fight. I want to stay. We're going to sue. I got my money. I bounced around my third school. Now it's time to be a grown-up and just say, I want to talk to these kids, and I'll do that on my own. And if you want to have film crews come in, you want to sit down with John Wertheim on 60 Minutes, that's what I would suggest here.
Yeah, Paul.
Yeah, like you said, he's got eight months to change the narrative, but he needs time. Because right now, he and his lawyer come off as do anything to get in the league or get on a football team. But eight months from now, his tape is his tape. The NFL's got his tape, and he may not have any more to give them.
Yeah, I think they'll be fine with it. I mean, this is a dual threat. This guy who's got athleticism, he certainly showed that at Cincinnati. But you've got to rehab yourself in the eyes of other people as well. Not only you, but you've got to do that with everybody else who has an opinion about you in the NFL. They don't need you. You need the NFL. All right, let's see.
World Cup yesterday, the big news was Ronaldo. He's back. Had a couple of goals there, which was fun. United States doesn't play until tomorrow. Yes, Dylan. Did you see the story about the Ghanaian witch doctor who cursed Harry Kane yesterday? I did not. Oh, well, this is pretty good.
So Nana Kwaku Bonsam is a Ghanaian witch doctor who placed a curse on Harry Kane not to be injured, just to limit his powers, and they ended in a 0-0 tie. Now, has he used these skills, powers, over other players? Apparently, he did in the 2014 World Cup against Ronaldo, who then suffered a knee injury, which I don't think that's right, but two for two.
Well, he kind of picks his spots there, 12 years after what he did in 2014, and now he does it. So he's really specific when he decides to do this. Yes, Todd?
Yeah.
I'm not going to be judgmental, but come on, don't be doing that. That's not cool. If something terrible would have happened to him.
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Chapter 5: What are the challenges faced by players transitioning from college to the NBA?
Yes, Dan, Todd.
I could be very competitive, but I'm okay with not being least valuable Danette perennially.
I'm happy to share that with you. I would say right now, halfway through the year, you're still least valuable Danette. I mean, Dylan's got a way to go. But you're kind of the Buffalo Bills of least valuable Danettes.
I'm a dynasty on the bad end of things.
Yes, you are. You have created a dynasty. Yes, Dylan? Have these last few days, week or so, with our little tiff that we've been in, has that affected our standing at all? Well, the audience votes on this, Dylan. Just letting you know. You've gotten some negative calls here recently. I have. Just want to let you know. But welcome to the team. Getting some negative publicity. Yes, Paul?
Dan, this is the natural process of being a Danette. Marvin had the honeymoon period of about a month, and everyone loved what Marvin did.
Very funny. He knows his sports, especially his NBA. And then the hand-sized thing. Little chinks in the armor, and next thing you know, they start taking shots at you.
Yeah, but I thought that that was a positive. Oh, yeah. That Marvin was, he was willing to embrace it, you know, not with both hands, but he was embracing it that he has the smallest hands in the room. And I gave him a lot of credit for that. I said, just embrace it, you know, don't fight it, you know. Being a Danette is kind of like marriage. You know, that first month is great.
Then after that, you're going to get roughed up a little bit there. So that's what happened. That's what happened to Marvin. Honeymoon, and then it's over. And now, all of a sudden, Dylan in the honeymoon stage. I think it's evaporating. All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk to Tim McMahon. He covers the NBA for the Mothership. He'll join us coming up. More on the Brendan Sorsby situation.
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Chapter 6: How does the NBA's drafting strategy differ from the NFL's?
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Chapter 7: What are the potential impacts of NIL on college basketball and player decisions?
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He is Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA reporter, and his podcast, Banned McMahon, on the Hoop Collective. And, of course, he wrote the book on Luka Doncic, The Wonder Boy, The Curse of Greatness. As we welcome back Tim McMahon. Howdy, Tim. Howdy, Dan. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. Do you have your grades ready? We always have to have a grade for the NBA draft. And so you're kind of the teacher here.
Can you grade something like strategy over just the talent that somebody has? Well, Dan, I'll be real honest with you. I don't know if that's a new process. It took me eight years to get a degree in college. I'm not a professor. I don't hand out grade. And I'll be real with you. I don't watch a lot of college basketball. I'm either at an NBA game or watching League Pass every night.
So I learn about these guys. We have experts, obviously, at ESPN. There's other draft gurus. I read that stuff. I talk to people around the league. So I'm more of a, I grade the process because on the talent, I'm mainly going off the other people's opinions, not my own. And, you know, I also, I just think it's hilarious. It's like, do you get your grade?
when you get your syllabus when you walk into a classroom? Because class just started for these guys. How are you going to grade something that hasn't happened yet? Is it just a coincidence that there are certain teams that just aren't good at this? Like whenever the Wizards do something, I go, oh, this is going to go bad.
But if the Miami Heat do something, then I go, oh, they must know something that I don't know. Well, and I think you're judging the Wizards on history. This is obviously still a relatively new front office that's gone through a rebuild. And, you know, so in that sense, I think that this Wizards front office deserves some benefit of the doubt, whereas...
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Chapter 8: What are the latest updates on Brendan Sorsby's legal situation with the NFL?
I really think it just came down to for Milwaukee, are you going to make a trade that's about being as good as you can be the next two or three years, or are you going to make a trade that's about giving your franchise a chance to really eventually come out of this with a competitive team in place? You know, Jalen Brown had a couple first-round picks is what was on the table from the Celtics.
Those picks are likely going to be late picks, right? And so with Jalen Brown, yes, that is a ready-made – in his prime superstar. That's a guy who was, you know, second-team All-NBA selection. He's not at the same tier as Giannis, but he's just, you know, at that tier right below. But look, Dan, that wasn't a good team with Giannis on the floor.
He didn't play a lot last year, but when he played, they were 17 and 19. You bring in Jalen Brown, and, yeah, you're maximizing your chances to be competitive next year, but the ceiling's still not very high. Whereas you go with this deal with Miami, you get a lottery pick in this year's draft.
You get two more picks that are when Giannis is going to be in his mid to late 30s, plus a swap in that span. You get Tyler Hero, who we'll see if he's on the roster or not. Either they get more stuff for him or he's scoring 20 points per game and at least... given Wisconsin folks a local kid to watch.
And then you get a few, you know, they didn't get like the, hey, this is the centerpiece of the trade guy, but they got some young players that are interesting in it. So I would have taken the deal from Miami as well. They squeezed Miami to get as much as they could get from them. And again, I just think the Jayden Brown thing, sure. Okay, great. You get an all NBA player. To do what?
To miss the plane again or to maybe be a 10 seed? The Celtics have a situation on their hands here with Jalen Brown. I think the Celtics have had a situation on their hands with Jalen Brown, honestly, for the last few months. He made it very clear and wasn't shy about declaring that this was the favorite season of his career. And this was after they got bounced in the first round.
But it was the favorite season of his career because he was the man. Everything revolved around him. The ball was in his hands. He was the clear-cut coach. 1A on the team, but Jason Tatum out most of the year, and then coming back off of the Achilles injury. So there's been a situation on their hands, but this obviously inflamed it.
And you can't pretend like he wasn't on the block, and this isn't the first go-round, right? Jason Tatum has never gone through hearing trade rumors involving him. Jalen Brown has on multiple occasions. You know, you go back to the KD stuff and they kind of tried to play the semantics game there. There was no semantics here. He was absolutely offered.
And so, you know, we will see what that means moving forward. We will see if he's on the Celtics roster when training camp rolls around. Talking to Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA reporter. You can also see him on the great podcast, The Hoop Collective. Dusty May running from Michigan or running to the Mavericks? That's a great question.
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