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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of the poll between Messi and Eli Manning?
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Chapter 2: How do Dan and the Danettes compare Messi and Eli Manning's careers?
Yeah, sure. I don't have any problem with that. Yeah, Paul? I love mixing in all the goats, but I think that the Eli Manning angle makes this tougher because you're picking a good borderline Hall of Fame guy in the sport like Fritzie picked it because he loves football that much. It would really help if Messi were also booked today because Eli's already on the show. Just saying.
Yeah, it's not a debate. The only thing that I wouldn't want is Messi can't live a normal life. The rest of his life. If he wins another World Cup, you know, you see when he goes to a restaurant in Miami, word gets out, there's thousands of people. You know, it's not Taylor Swift. This is Messi. Yes, Dylan. Would you rather win a World Cup or a Super Bowl? World Cup.
Chapter 3: What are the implications of the NBA Finals ratings discussed?
Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Do you get a ring? You beat the world. You beat the world. But don't we call the Super Bowl like you won a world championship? No, it's the World Series. But Super Bowl is just us here in the United States. Well, I heard a lot of Knicks fans say they won a world championship. Hey, I'm fine with that, too. You are? Yes, our Knicks. Go, Knicks. Go, New York.
Go.
Parade tomorrow. Oh, I know. I did say that the two backroom guys, Anthony and Rob, could go to the parade tomorrow if they took off their shirts and they actually put N and Y like they were together. And that they could go, but they had to paint. One had to have an N and one had to have a Y. And they had to walk together the entire parade, the entire time. Yes, Dylan. That seems fair.
I mean, I actually asked them. I said, if the only way for you to go to the parade was to also fly to Carolina on Saturday and go to the Hurricanes, they said they would do that. So they seem very amenable to taking turns off. Yeah, we're not doing that. But Carolina, we're not doing that parade. That's Saturday.
But if the backroom guys want to go to the parade tomorrow, but they have to paint their chest, now we can decide. They can have a G and an O for go, or they can have an N and a Y. You could have J and B for Jalen Brunson, whatever it is. Yes, Dylan. Do they have to go tarps off on the train into New York? Yes. All right, I like that. And I want video. Yeah. Yes, Paul.
If it's G-O and they put go, they could also switch spots and be O-G. Okay.
All right.
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Chapter 4: What arguments are made for choosing Messi over Eli Manning?
There's really just no doubt about it now. Well, I think we were talking about when you see Steph Curry, you go, that guy does that? So I don't think that you were saying that Steph Curry is messy. It is the comparison of you look at somebody and you go, how is that guy doing that? And that's what you get with messy as well. I think messy and Gretzky, very similar. Yes, Marvin.
Yeah, I think Messi's more impressive because he's short compared to regular people. Steph Curry might be the tallest guy that we perceive as being short because when you see him in person, you're like, damn, he's a legit 6'3".
Yeah, when we were with him in Tahoe and you guys got to see, you know, when he was sitting down and I walked in and he stood up and gave me a big hug and Marvin goes, damn, he's taller than I thought. I said, yeah, he's like he's 6'3", but out there when he's on the floor, He looks really small. Yeah, Paul. Short for the sport, tall in life. Yes. Yes, Dylan.
Yeah, to put it in perspective, he's the same height as Derrick Henry, who looks like a giant on a football field. Well, but he would probably kind of look like a giant in real life, too. Like, he's a large guy. Yeah. You know who's a guy that, Brandon Jacobs. Oh, yeah. God, we saw him, and we might have been at a Super Bowl. I don't know what it was, but, like, he was a big guy.
And that's a running back. Like, you're going, damn. He's 6'4", 260? Yes, Todd.
You can make an argument for both, but I was curious what everybody thought is a tougher sport to play, hockey or soccer, since we just made a messy Gretzky analogy.
Hockey. Hockey. Yeah, hockey.
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Chapter 5: What insights do callers provide about the poll question?
With all the endurance of the running versus skating?
Hockey. In soccer, you can stop. Now, I know you get breaks with hockey, your shifts, but, I mean, you're doing all of that on skates. And when you fall, you're not falling on turf, you're falling on ice. And that puck is coming at you 100 miles an hour. And guys, it was so unbelievable what the hurricanes did. There'd be shots on goal, and these guys would be just sacrificing their body.
And not everything is padded. And they have to have welts, bruises all over. But, oh, my God. No, hockey. You got a stick. You got a puck. You got the ice. You're on skates. They want to take your head off. They're allowed to take your head off. Hey, you nearly took his head off. Two minutes for you. Yeah, Paul. When I walk into a soccer pitch, I don't fall down on my first step. All right.
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Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to the U.S. Open golf tournament?
Hey, thanks, Dan.
Hey, a couple things for you. Hey, you were talking about Gretzky. You know, he always said, I don't want to be where the puck is. I want to be where the puck is going to be. And I bet Messi's the same way with a soccer ball. And you were talking about great Jalens. Jalen Brown, like Brunson, both have a title. And I wonder what Brown's career would be like if he was the go-to guy like Brunson.
I don't know if he could carry a team to an NBA title like Jalen Brunson did.
Do you want to weigh in on the poll question? Would you rather be Eli Manning or Lionel Messi, Chris?
Yeah, I think I'll go. I am not at all into soccer, so I think I would definitely go with Manning. Yeah, it does make it kind of unique with Eli instead of a Peyton or whatever. So, yeah, I think I'd go Eli Manning.
Okay.
That's two.
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Yeah, I think you take definitely you take I'm sorry, man.
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Chapter 7: What unique perspectives are shared about soccer culture in the U.S.?
I think college football should adopt the model that soccer in Europe uses, whereas the clubs, along with paying the players, directly compensate the clubs whose players they buy from. So big clubs like my Liverpool will still dominate the transfer window, but the smaller clubs they buy from, like Meyer Leverkusen, will not lose their players. Yeah, Patrick, I brought that up.
I brought that up a couple of times. If you lose a player, let's say you're the coach at Toledo, and you lose a player to Ohio State, Ohio State should be paying a transfer fee to the smaller schools. because then it helps them with their athletic budgets.
Ohio State, not going to put a dent in theirs, but if you're taking these players from other schools that want to transfer, it's a transfer fee. But eventually we're going to be like the Premier League. You're going to have X number of teams. They're going to be playing on their own, and then you'll have the rest of college football. Yes, Todd.
If you're already paying the smaller schools to embarrass and humiliate them, it seems like they go hand in hand that you could at least give them some compensation if you're poaching players.
Yeah, but we're not going to be doing that, you know, moving forward. You know, and it'll be, you know, in the next 10 years where you're not playing Texas State. you're going to have a schedule just like the NFL. And you won't be in these other schools. There's going to be programs that have to drop sports because they will not have the revenue.
So, yes, you're paid $500,000 to be a sacrificial lamb, and that $500,000 is really important. But this is a way that maybe you can compensate some of those schools who do find somebody who proves to be kind of a diamond in the rough, and then they transfer, you know, to Ohio State. You compensate these schools. Carlos in El Paso. Hi, Carlos. ADP, 64225.
Last night as I was watching the game, I was thinking of comparisons like we've been talking all morning. And the one I wanted to drop today was last night we saw something if Michael Jordan on the Wizards decided to play or just display fell as a point guard. And then we kind of found out that he's just as good, if not better, as a point guard. It's just insane what Messi is doing.
Anyway, thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Thank you, Carlos. Chris in Connecticut. Hi, Chris. What do you have for me? Hey, comparing Messi to Eli is like comparing Dan Patrick to Rich Eisen. You won Family Feud, and Rich Eisen is Rich Eisen. Thank you, Chris. It's true, but it's rough. It's true, but rough. Yes, Julian.
I feel like with the Messi comparison, I would have an easier time moving off of him with a Tiger Woods or maybe a Roger Federer. Hold on. Pauly wants to have a rebuttal. It's not a comparison. The poll is more of an experiment. I knew that Messi would win this poll. My guess is it's going to be 75% to 25%.
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts relate personal experiences to the sports discussed?
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I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place. Soccer. Football. It's home.
Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breathe?
I inherited that fandom from my mom. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great.
A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture.
I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.
Are they the only ones that don't like hearing that?
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