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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season, and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow.
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It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for.
Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed it?
and it's beautiful.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Kirk Herbstreit share about the NBA Finals?
Oh, John McEnroe I've met. John McEnroe, Larry David. Don Johnson, Mark, myself. What's cool is when you go to an event like that, and there's a couple people to my right. I had no idea who they were. We're high-fiving each other. Everybody just checks whatever you are and whatever you do. You just become fans. You're just caught up in the game and talking about the strategy and everything.
And to be right where we were, like I said, the coach is, the only hindrance was, like, the coach getting in the way. I mean, are you kidding me? And then we kept saying, boy, if they can get it to 15, you never know. They get it to 15, and they got it to 14. And we're like, I'm like, dude, if they get it under 10, this is going to get serious.
And then they get it under 10, or then you just kind of get caught up and like, holy shit, this might happen. So that's the essence of, I think, why we love,
these kind of stories i mean you feel bad san antonio you think about this series you could argue that they've they could have won any of these games and here they are down 3-1 going back home so you wonder can they get up off the mat after squandering a 29-point lead to tie this series up can they go back home tomorrow night and and get it to 3-2 to go back to the garden can't well i can't now i'm now i'm locked in emotionally but but you know when when it comes to baseball and it comes to basketball it's the best of seven
With football, it's just, we've got to win this game. That's it. And I wonder how history would be changed. Now, I can't have players play seven games, seven-game series, but I wonder how history would be changed if it wasn't just one game. Because there are times when you go, on that day, they were better, but if they played nine more times, that team is going to win.
Well, if you think just back to the Olympics with Team USA against Canada, I mean, you could make that argument if those two teams played ten times or five times. You know, I don't know if the USA wins a whole lot of those games, but like Kurt Russell said, and of course in the movie, it's tonight, we're the best team. And I think you can debate and argue what's better.
You know, that one time, put it together, find a way to do it, pull off a miracle, or... Over a seven-game series, you're truly going to find out who the better team is, right? I mean, there's some ebb and flow and ups and downs. I don't know. I can kind of see it on both sides of it, really. I think there's something really special about for 60 minutes, we're going to put it together.
They might on paper have a better team, but we're going to find out. There's something kind of cool about that as well. Well, just imagine if we go back to the 76ers with Allen Iverson. They open up the NBA Finals. They win game one. If it was one and done, the Sixers would have won the title over one of the great teams of all time. Yeah. We're talking to Kirk Herbstreit.
I don't know if these fans or these celebrities there ask you college football questions. Like this Brendan Sorsby thing, it feels like it's crossed over. Like this isn't a college football. Everybody's got an opinion on this. So your thoughts on the judge's ruling and what happens as we move forward.
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Chapter 3: How does Kirk Herbstreit compare basketball and football?
And then, obviously, the tournament this summer has expanded. And so we need to be able to win some knockout round games. And I think if we can get to the round of 16, we're going to have to play a powerhouse, a soccer powerhouse from around the world somewhere. And in that moment, anything can happen. And I've said if we can create one of these iconic moments
such as the goal against Algeria in 2010, or one of these moments where an entire country is going to get behind the team, I think anything's possible. And so I think if we can get to the round of 16 and have this excitement and the buzz within the United States, get behind the boys, I think they can make their way to a quarterfinal. And, you know, the sky's the limit at that point.
Great to talk to you, Brad. Have fun. Appreciate it. Thank you. Brad Gazan, the Fox Sports World Cup studio analyst. He'll be working the World Cup there. He was part of two U.S. teams in the World Cup. Yeah, it feels like the round of 16. That seems to be the... If we get there, we've had a successful World Cup.
It's weird to have that with any of... When you think of the United States, it's really rare when you go, well, if we get to the round of 16, we've done well. We're so used to if we're not playing for a championship. But as people point out, how much soccer have we been playing when other countries have been playing for centuries here?
Okay, we still have a lot of people to draw from here in the United States. Far more than Croatia, the Ivory Coast, and we're the host country. But I'm waiting for, and I don't know if this is fair, but maybe when you want to get somebody's attention, the casual sports fan. Like Tiger got the casual sports fan. Gretzky got the casual sports fan.
These are sports that normally we wouldn't go, oh, I've got to watch that. But then you did. Can you get, I mean, Christian Pulisic is a wonderful player, but he's kind of like Mike Trout. You know, he's low-key. He's not a personality. I mean, go back to Landon Donovan. You know, he was a personality when we had him on. You know, Tim Howard's a really good goaltender.
But, like, what am I seeing? When you watch some of these players, when you watch Messi, you're seeing somebody, a Ronaldo, Mbappe, you're seeing somebody, you go, I haven't seen that before. And these other countries seem to have that one player. Yeah, Paulie. You'll remember this guy. We had him on. A generation ago, there was a guy named Freddie Adu. When he was 14, he was a thing.
And if he had panned out and became our great one, he was already on the way with that. He was dubbed at age 14. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and we thought, okay, this guy could be the future. Now, he did play. He had a decent career. But the total number of Americans who watch non-USA soccer matches increased from 31 million in 2018 to 50 million in 2024.
So that's a 60% growth in six years. And the MLS has done quite well. They went from 30,000 viewers in 2018 to 30 million, I should say, to 48 million, an increase of 57% over six years. MLS has done a great job. You know, it started as a 10-team league back in 1996. Now it's 30. And the attendance record, over 11 million fans attending regular season matches.
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Chapter 4: What is Kirk Herbstreit's opinion on Brendan Sorsby's situation at Texas Tech?
Hi, Ryan. DP, what up? Hey. Just a reminder, I want to check in. About 23 months to the day you and I, we made a bet that if the United States men's national team win the World Cup, you have to stay on air for another year.
So just putting it back out there, you know who you have to down at 30 Rock. Just to tell them, hey, I might be on the air for another year, man.
All right, Team USA wins the World Cup. I stay on for another year. Boy, now I have to root against Team USA. Yes, Paul. If you're the coach, motivational? Yeah, you're going in there to Christian Pulisic. Hey, listen, you know how important this is? Yeah, it's World Cup. Dan Patrick will do another year on his show if we win the World Cup. Let's go.
Like, this will be the Herb Brooks moment there, motivational speeches. Ann in Arizona. Hi, Ann.
Morning, Dan.
Morning.
I was just calling away on Sorsby. Proud Kansas State alumni. And Bill Snyder would never have allowed that. And neither would Darren Sproles. Excuse me. I apologize. And I love you, Dan. Have a great day, okay?
Thank you, Ann. I know that we can – it's business, okay? I can't sit here and say I know who would allow this and who wouldn't, but Texas Tech is probably saying, look, we've got a judge who said two games. He'll serve the two-game suspension. I mean, the morality, please, I would love for them to be around, but they're long gone. Yes, Marvin. Michael Bishop would have never done that either.
Oh, of course. Yeah, of course. Top five. You remember that guy? Like him, like Brad Banks from Iowa? Colin Klein? Oh, nice, Paul. How about that? Graham Harrell, speaking of Texas Tech. All right, all right. Who... They have Sonny. Did they have another? Who's the other quarterback at Texas Tech? They all threw for, you know, 20,000 yards. Felt like, God, what's his name? Was there a Sonny?
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