LEMON DROP | Donald Trump Is Destroying the Press!
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How did Don Lemon and John Harwood introduce the issue of press attacks by Trump?
How are you, my friend?
I'm doing well, and I feel like this is old home week because so many times you interviewed me on your CNN show from this very spot during COVID. And so it's nice to be back here, and it's nice to turn the tables and be able to interview you a little bit.
Yeah, I would love that. So what's going on? Everything good in your world?
Everything's good in my world. Recovery from leukemia is complete. I just had a two-year post-transplant checkup, got it all clear. It's an important milestone. So, yeah, I'm feeling good and just a little concerned about the state of the country, as you are.
Oh, my gosh. And the State of the Union is coming up.
Exactly.
Yeah, and look, it's... Since we have been, you know, did what we did, a lot has changed, especially as it relates to the media and in the world and with, quite frankly, the First Amendment, I believe. I mean, duh. No kidding.
No kidding. Well, look, let me start by asking, you've just sort of been through the ringer with the president and the Justice Department, but... My assumption is, and I think most people's assumption is, that the case is going to get thrown out. It's raised your profile. It's probably been good for you on net, raising the amount of followers. How are you doing and how has the experience been? Are you shaken by it? Are you pleased by the reaction or what?
Well, I am a soldier and, you know, I've been attacked by the administration, as you know, as have you. You've been attacked by the administration, but never this way. I don't think they ever they would. I'm sure they would have liked to have jailed you or arrested you, but they didn't. You know, that didn't happen. But they went so far this time as to do it. Is it look, I'm not afraid of this administration, as you know. um i'm a fighter and i'm also a journalist i believe in the first amendment i believe in the freedom of the press and that's what i went to minnesota to do and that's what i do and whenever i go out on any assignment or anything that i'm covering i'm going there to do the work of a journalist i was not there in you know in a role as a protester nor was i a co-conspirator in anything i was just um reporting the interesting thing is i was speaking to someone last night um who said
you know, Don, I have been embedded with many different organizations. So I don't know if you were embedded or not. I said, I don't really consider myself embedded. I went there to cover what they were doing. And that's what I did. But he said, it's not out of the ordinary for journalists to be embedded with groups, even in war zones. And they don't get, you know, charged with war crimes if the group that they are with is doing something wrong. So it's a little bit unnerving to But, John, you know, this is beyond me. This is if you have a government who can decide which protests you can cover, which you can't, much as what they're doing, you know, at the Pentagon, you have to show us what you're reporting before, you know, it has to be approved.
If they can do that, then this whole thing is over. The First Amendment is the underpinning is the is the bedrock of our democracy. And if they get to decide that, then. then we're screwed. We're off Schitt's Creek, as they say.
Let me ask you about part of that bigger picture because you're well-known. You've done very well in this business. I would imagine it's been a tougher experience for Georgia Ford. And I don't know how close you are to her or if you know her well at all, but how is she doing?
I think she's doing okay. Our court dates were not on the same, not at the same time. I only met her that day, I believe I can't, I can barely even remember meeting her, but she, we just happened to be in the same place. Um, but I, I'm sure we met that, that day because she was covering it and I was covering it, but she was doing her business and I was doing my business. So it wasn't like, you know, we were kiki-ing and ha ha. Um, and I had never met her before. I didn't know, I didn't know that much about her work.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
How did Don Lemon and John Harwood introduce the issue of press attacks by Trump?
0:13–4:54
2
What does Don Lemon say about his arrest in Minnesota and First Amendment risks?
4:54–14:46
3
How did Don describe the immediate impact on him and fellow journalist Georgia Foyt?
14:46–27:32
4
What reactions and support did Don receive from colleagues and the media industry?
27:32–37:00
5
How far does Don believe Trump will go in targeting journalists and the press?
37:00–41:13
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