Chapter 1: What is the fallout from ICE violence in Minneapolis?
There you see him there, Congressman John Garamendi. He served the people of California. He's been serving them since 2009. Thank you, Congressman. Good to see you. Thank you, Don. Congressman, I have to ask you, folks are wondering, like, what can we do? There are no repercussions.
They feel like the citizens or the people of Minnesota are being terrorized and they're worried about it coming to them. They want to know what our lawmakers are doing. But I believe there are some issues with appropriation and the Department of Homeland Security.
There may be, let's just say there may be some recourse for people and it'll start with you guys in the Department of Homeland Security.
Don, you're absolutely correct. Citizens, Americans are really, really concerned and very angry about the way ICE is being used around this nation as a domestic police force. Even to the point today, ICE is going to investigate fraud. That's a normal police activity in the communities. That's a major extension of ICE.
Already, and we have the opportunity here in Congress to do something about this. The appropriation for ICE ends at the end of this month. The continuing resolution that extended the funding way back in December terminates at the end of January and the appropriations, the money for ICE will be up. It gets a little detail along the way, but we have the opportunity if we fight fiercely.
We can then force reforms of ICE. Some of these are just basic police reforms. Identification, body cams, training, all of that must be part of any reform. But I think we can go further here.
I think if we stand together and the Republicans are as fractured as they are, and the vote is close, it may very well be that we have an opportunity to go after the 10 year funding that ICE has as a result of the big ugly bill. They've got their funding. Under law, there's nothing we can do in the appropriation to reduce or to hold back that funding.
But we may have the opportunity to write a new law.
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Chapter 2: How are lawmakers addressing community concerns about ICE?
That is to change the big ugly funding mandatory funding for ICE. I want us to be strong. We've got to fight back here. And we're given an opportunity in the next two weeks, three weeks, as we run up to the end of January where the funding for government agencies terminates.
So Congressman, you said you can't withhold their funding, meaning DHS, but you can't, this is an opportunity to create a law. What does that mean? How long, what does that entail? How long would it take?
Well, we're about to get into the appropriation weeds here. In the big ugly bill, there was guaranteed funding for the next decade, $170 billion for Department of Homeland Security ICE program. And that's mandatory. That's in the law. The appropriators cannot change that. They can make certain requirements, improving the quality of care, such things as training, body cams and so forth.
That can be done, but the funding is there. However, if the Republicans do not have the votes, we then have the leverage and the opportunity to rewrite the big ugly bill. as it pertains to, well, all of it, but specifically to the mandatory funding for ICE. It can be restricted, can be diverted to other things, healthcare, education, whatever. That's a separate piece of legislation.
If that leverage moment arrives, we need to be prepared not only to put into the appropriation bill improvements in the way ICE operates, but also to fundamentally change their funding stream so that we, as legislators, Members of Congress and the Senate have the ongoing authority to move the ICE money wherever it may be necessary or to restrict it.
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Chapter 3: What powers does Trump threaten to use with the Insurrection Act?
Okay. And that would take a certain amount of time. My question is, having just read what Donald Trump posted earlier today as we were taping this, that he is threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act. And he says it's going to take care of all of that. And he called the people who are protesters in Minnesota, he called them insurrectionists.
I mean, the irony of what he did with the insurrectionists, pardoning them. But what happens if Donald Trump does invoke the Insurrection Act?
He becomes the ultimate dictator. All restraints are off. He can do whatever he wants to do. The Supreme Court is questioning his authority on many of these issues, including the deployment of ICE and the National Guard in various cities. But the Insurrection Act would allow him to be the ultimate dictator, no restrictions at all.
Now, we're proposing legislation to rewrite the Insurrection Act, but that hasn't been heard in committee. This is how he would become the American dictator. No restraints at all. It is a fundamental problem. And frankly, it is a very scary situation.
Because we know that he will do weird, wild things, not only internationally, which he could do if he has the Insurrection Act, and domestically, you name it, he would have the power. And that has to be addressed. Insurrection Act is two centuries old now. And it is out of date. And we must reform it. not only for Donald Trump, but for whomever may be present in the future.
People are wondering why, Congressman, that the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, why he won't deploy the National Guard. Now, I spoke with Representative Gomez recently, and he said, well, then Donald Trump can turn around and federalize those National Guard members, which would not be good. Is that indeed correct or no?
Well, it is correct, but you're looking at a series of scenarios here. Waltz could deploy the National Guard, and it would be under his authority. He would be able to direct, restrict, or allow whatever would be necessary. If Trump took that and then federalized it, the power then shifts to Trump.
And the argument that we have successfully made to the court is that the deployment of the National Guard by the federal government is not necessary and not done properly. That is, you don't have the authority and the governor involved. It would be – I understand why Waltz is hesitant here. Because Trump may very well jump at this and say, ah, there you go.
Now I'm going to take over the National Guard and I'm going to do this or that. And if in fact he's serious about the Insurrection Act, he really has carte blanche to do whatever he wants to do. He would be the dictator. And the Insurrection Act could or probably would be nationwide, not just Minnesota.
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Chapter 4: How can Congress fight back against ICE's funding?
You know, Congressman, you know what people are asking? They're wondering what their lawmakers are doing. I've had people say, well, you know, why aren't my Minnesota lawmakers out here in the streets or, you know, more visible fighting for me? And so they're wondering, like, what can Congress, what can their elected officials do?
And it appear at this point, it's just behind the scenes strategy, strategery, so to speak. You know, there's... They're concerned that this president is unstoppable and will, in fact, become a complete dictator. That's a concern. And they're wondering, where are their lawmakers, local, state, national, where are they on this?
Well, I certainly hear that and I certainly understand and I certainly am frustrated. My power is limited to articulating a message, as I am now, rallying the people in my district and passing or introducing legislation Now, we do have specific moments where the leverage opportunity shifts to the Democrats.
Keep in mind, it is a very, very close one vote difference within the House of Representatives. If the Republicans have an absentee, then the power may very well shift to the Democrats. And at that point, it's a leverage point. If that becomes more permanent, we could establish a new speakership. In other words, take over the House.
If the Republicans have a permanent or semi-permanent shortage of votes and we have more, we can then run the House. We think about this all the time. We're planning for it. as it becomes just now a one-vote margin for the Republicans, it may happen. Now, that's out there in the maybe, maybe.
But really, every single day, we are working on specific legislation, working in the appropriation processes, and doing what I'm doing with you. And that is becoming a voice. Back in the district, interviews... Rallying the crowd last night, I finished at 12 o'clock East Coast time with talking to my constituents about the specific issue you talked about. How can we stop Trump?
So it's be prepared. Get the legislation together. Look for the moments where the leverage is. changes from the Republicans to the Democrats, and we can then pass specific legislation. Would Trump veto it? Possibly. But some of this he may not be able to do. We can do the hearings and we can prepare. Bottom line of this is there is an election coming up in nine months.
And that election is critical. We did Prop 50 in California. We redistrict the state of California and created an opportunity to pick up five new Democratic seats that are currently held by Republicans. That is a major, major blow to the Republicans.
That is a result of the advocacy and the determination of the Democrats, together with the support of California voters, to shift the power balance here in Washington, D.C., Now, we've got to complete this. We're on second base. We've got to get to home plate. We've got to win those elections.
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Chapter 5: What reforms are proposed for ICE operations?
That blue wave is caused by Trump and his excesses, but also caused by the men and women of America going to the streets and getting involved in the election process. So all across the country, in every state, we may be able to pick up states seats that we never thought possible. because people are angry.
How do you get to the polls though, Congressman, if you are, if there's, you know, been an insurrection act and we're in a police state and people are, won't that suppress the vote? Won't people be afraid to even go to the polls? I think that people believe that he's, that's what he's trying to do, influence the election one through suppression and so on.
But, you know, if you can't get there, you can't have a blue wave.
That's where you and I must engage. And we simply have to, if that happens, if that scenario plays out, then what do we do? Well, we may not be able to vote, but we can demonstrate. We can be in the streets. We can do what is legally and safely demonstrate. We ought to be doing that now in anticipation of this.
The concern about Trump using the inspection act and stopping the election process, it could happen. It could happen. But that is a major, major step. Keep in mind that during the Civil War, there were elections. Now, the southern states were not allowed to vote because they had succeeded from the Union, and at that point were not part of our United States.
But the rest of the nation did vote, even in the Civil War, which was about as complex and dangerous as possible. So never give up. Keep fighting in wherever you happen to be. Join democratic organizations. Organize. And if Trump somehow stops the vote, then we're going to have to be in the streets.
Can we talk about Greenland and Venezuela? I'm going to start with Venezuela, okay? Because the opposition leader there, Maria Machado, is meeting with Donald Trump today. And if he declines to endorse her following the U.S. capture of Nicolas Maduro, what do you think, what happens?
Well, maybe he will endorse her. He's been saying nice things about her. Let's step back for a moment.
But he's been saying, pardon me for cutting you off, but he's been saying he likes her, but he doesn't think that she's up for the job, basically, is what his stance has been.
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Chapter 6: How could the Insurrection Act impact civil liberties?
He did all but to destroy NATO and tried to do it in his first term. For whose benefit? Well, for the benefit of Trump, no, but for the benefit of Putin, yes. So we have to be very aware here. We must assume the worst. about Donald Trump and, you know, is the Greenland play more than just control of the area or is it to tear NATO apart? Maybe both.
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